{"version":"https://jsonfeed.org/version/1","title":"The Dive Down","home_page_url":"https://thedivedown.fireside.fm","feed_url":"https://thedivedown.fireside.fm/json","description":"The Dive Down is a Magic: The Gathering podcast focused on the latest decks, trends, and strategies for the casual spikes in Modern, Pioneer, Explorer, and more! \r\n\r\nEach week your hosts Dave, Shane, and Stanislav discuss the latest innovations, competitive events, and level-up topics for paper and online players.\r\n\r\nSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thedivedown\r\n\r\nProudly sponsored by Heavy Play, a new card gaming accessories brand that'll improve your gameplay and game day. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com/\r\n\r\nWe're also sponsored by ManaTraders, the best Magic card rental service for both Magic Online and paper! Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown or use Manatraders coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_8LU","_fireside":{"subtitle":"A Magic: The Gathering podcast for the casual spike, focused on Modern, Pioneer, Explorer, and more!","pubdate":"2024-11-21T01:00:00.000-06:00","explicit":false,"copyright":"2024 by The Dive Down","owner":"The Dive Down","image":"https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/5/5bd6807c-00c5-46e4-adc4-16a210c13c0c/cover.jpg?v=1"},"items":[{"id":"cf4a3782-4c60-4e1e-904d-aef0bf30a517","title":"Episode 301: Standard Rules, Modern Drools, and Pokémon Fools","url":"https://thedivedown.fireside.fm/301","content_text":"We kick off this week's show with an important announcement about the future of The Dive Down. Just listen since it's too long to explain in writing. Then we bemoan the B&R window before highlighting the fun times happening in Standard right now. And we wrap with a nice chat about our love-hate relationship with the new Pokémon TCG Pocket. \n\nThe Break Down: A really important announcement\nThe Dive Down: The new Foundations of Standard and Draft\nThe Wind Down: Pokémon Pocket is a bad game we are playing\n\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown\nShow the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store\nUpgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com\nGet 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNTEN\nAnd now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/\n\n\nTimestamps:\n6:27 - Let loose with Heavy Play\n9:15 - This week's episode\n11:51 - IMPORTANT housekeeping!\n25:00 - The Break Down begins: Does Modern suck right now?\n32:37 - Foundations is here, and impacting Standard\n47:25 - D00m's Decks: The best decks in Standard\n1:15:48 - Dave's Limited corner\n1:25:25 - Pokémon Pocket is certainly a game to play\n1:46:54 - Wrapping up\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown","content_html":"
We kick off this week's show with an important announcement about the future of The Dive Down. Just listen since it's too long to explain in writing. Then we bemoan the B&R window before highlighting the fun times happening in Standard right now. And we wrap with a nice chat about our love-hate relationship with the new Pokémon TCG Pocket.
\n\nThe Break Down: A really important announcement
\nThe Dive Down: The new Foundations of Standard and Draft
\nThe Wind Down: Pokémon Pocket is a bad game we are playing
Timestamps:
\n6:27 - Let loose with Heavy Play
\n9:15 - This week's episode
\n11:51 - IMPORTANT housekeeping!
\n25:00 - The Break Down begins: Does Modern suck right now?
\n32:37 - Foundations is here, and impacting Standard
\n47:25 - D00m's Decks: The best decks in Standard
\n1:15:48 - Dave's Limited corner
\n1:25:25 - Pokémon Pocket is certainly a game to play
\n1:46:54 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The doctor is in. For a very special episode 300, The Dive Down sits down with THE Richard Garfield, inventor of Magic: The Gathering and great-great-grandson of President James A. Garfield. What is Magic as Garfield intended? We finally have the answer.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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They said it couldn't be done, but one of the Dive Down boys (other than D00mwake) finally won an RCQ. On this week's show, Stan talks about piloting Boros Energy to qualify for RC Portland, and we break down the Standard metagame and results from the Magic World Championship in Las Vegas.
\n\nThe Break Down: 6 Matches to Portland
\nThe Dive Down: Congratulations, Javier Dominguez
Timestamps:
\n6:15 - Allow Heavy Play to penetrate your pocketbook
\n7:59 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n13:04 - The Break Down begins: Some hot news!
\n18:55 - More takes on the Universes Beyond announcement
\n27:45 - Stan won an RCQ!
\n40:52 - The tournament report
\n58:10 - The next steps
\n1:03:22 - The Dive Down begins: The World Championship breakdown
\n1:12:50 - WC Standard winrates
\n1:16:23 - The top 8
\n1:23:12 - The Wind Down: Shane's Gadget Corner
\n1:31:38 - Dave also went to the RCQ, by the way
\n1:34:50 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nWorld Championship 30: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/146430
\nBuy a Steam Deck or something: https://store.steampowered.com/steamdeck
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Hot off the presses of WOTC's Foundations announcement, we break down and discuss the impact of Universes Beyond sets entering the Standard format in 2025.
\n\nThe Break Down: Cards That Will Be Standard Legal for 5 Years
\nThe Dive Down: Squidward Reborn
Timestamps:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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On this week's show, Dave tries to determine what to play during the one RCQ he can attend this season. We do our best to help him out by reviewing the latest Metagame Mentor, taking a closer look at Dimir Oculus, following in the steps of some Jeskai Control masters, and trying something new with Fear of Missing Out in Rakdos and Jund Delirium.
\n\nThe Break Down: Frank Loves Stats
\nThe Dive Down: Dave Needs a Deck
Timestamps:
\n\nLinks from this week's episode:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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In the last part of our mini-arc on the current state of Pioneer, Devon, Dave, and Stan dive deep into what happened at this weekend's RC in Washington D.C. We cover the decks that took too long, the decks that aimed too high, and the decks that took it all down. Will Demons remain are force in the meta? Will we keep paying taxes to Selesnya after this event? How soon until we all get annoyed with Tree of Perdition? And then lastly — and most importantly — is Pioneer right now the Magic everyone SAYS they want?
\n\n• 1,800+ Players
\n• 1h30m Rounds
\n• 3 Breakout Decks
Timestamps:
\n5:29 - Heavy Play is not cursed
\n7:40 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n13:30 - The Break Down begins - RC DC
\n39:17 - The outliers from RC DC
\n1:12:20 - Is Pioneer the Magic people want?
\n1:17:00 - Stan played Spirits
\n1:28:14 - Dave played Dimir Oculus
\n1:35:00 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nRC on MTGMelee: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/63398
\nPioneer Mono-Black Demons: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/434736
\nPioneer Rakdos Tree: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/435309
\nPioneer Selesnya Company: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/433930
\nPioneer Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6677777#paper
\nModern Dimir Frog-eye: https://x.com/DackFayden07/status/1841510715783299151
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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It's time (for Devon) to get ready for the RC in DC this weekend, so we dive deep into Pioneer for the week. We talk through the RC that happened in Brazil last weekend, examine new/interesting decks, and go through some of Devon's considerations on deck selection. If you haven't been paying attention to Pioneer lately — post-Duskmourn seems like a good time to jump in!
\n\n• An RC in Brazil!
\n• Devon has been preparing!
\n• There are lots of decks!
Timestamps:
\n4:28 - Heavy Play does not have art playmats (yet), but does have little windows
\n6:48 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n11:56 - The Break Down begins: The City Class Games Brazil Pioneer RC
\n30:10 - The MTGO Pioneer Super Qualifier
\n34:28 - D00m's Decks: Gruul Delirium
\n47:08 - D00m's Decks continued: Boros Legends
\n52:33 - Cool Decks, Inc: Boros Tokens Control
\n56:30 - CDI, cont: Boros Aggro
\n1:04:05 - D00m's Decks, yet again: Bogles
\n1:09:03 - CDI, again! Rakdos Transmogrify
\n1:15:15 - Even more CDI: Rakdos Marvin
\n1:22:32 - Some Modern content: Abhorrent Oculus!
\n1:32:04 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nCity Class Games Showdown VII Results: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/136231
\nMTGO Super Qualifier: https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/pioneer-super-qualifier-2024-09-2912692890
\nBoros Control: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/432621
\nRakdos Transmogrify: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6663193#paper
\nRakdos Huh? What? of Perdition: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6663767#paper
\nBoros Leyline of Resonance: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6663759#paper
\nGruul Delirium: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6665367#paper
\nBoros Legends: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6655957#paper
\nBogles: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/-07j5KR26E6G0EDjUNZLMg
\nUW Oculus: https://x.com/TandyMTG/status/1839511915803857113
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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On this week's show, Stan and Dave are joined by a new guest to The Dive Down. Taking a break from preparing for Regional Championship Washington DC and next month's World Championship in Las Vegas , Mark Stanton stops by to talk about the competitive mindset and how to practice Magic better.
\n\nWe chat about first impressions from Duskmourn, the current state of Pioneer leading up to the RC, and how to prepare for tournaments that matter.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:34 — Mark Stanton is Here to Teach Us How To Be Good at Magic
\n3:45 — Meet Team Rampant Growth, Sponsored by Heavy Play
\n6:57 — Mark Triples Down
\n9:35 — Housekeeping
\n10:44 — The Dive Down Begins: Inside the Grinder’s Studio
\n18:38 — Testing with Duskmourn
\n28:15 — Duskmourn in Pioneer
\n31:05 — Phoenix at the RC?
\n33:28 — As the Dusk Settles
\n34:58 — On Developing Magic Practice
\n40:10 — A Different Kind of Fun
\n43:20 — Working Rather Than Playing
\n50:10 — Building Metagame Knowledge
\n57:35 — The Pro Tour: A Whole Other Game
\n1:01:38 — People Playing Better Decks
\n1:05:45 — Let’s Talk Teams
\n1:12:00 — Closing Thoughts: What Do You Want from Magic?
\n1:20:52 — Signoff
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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On this week's show, d00mwake recaps his RCQ win with Gerry T's take on Boros Energy, Stan recounts all the reasons he hated Rakdos Aggro, the boys review results from the NRG Louisville Modern Open, and discuss our final picks from Duskmourn.
\n\nThe Break Down: Devon Wins an RCQ!
\nThe Break Down cont.: 70% Winrate Seems Good!
\nThe Dive Down: Goods Cards From the Bad House?
Timestamps:
\n8:13 - Heavy Play, a patient and caring member of your family
\n9:09 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n10:55 - The Break Down begins: Devon won an RCQ with the new Boros Energy!
\n28:05 - The NRG Louisville Modern 10k
\n38:46 - Stan played Rakdos Aggro in Pioneer
\n45:04 - The Dive Down Begins: Duskmourn spoilers, part 2!
\n46:28 - Rip, Spawn Hunter
\n50:41 - Sheltered By Ghosts
\n53:40 - Screaming Nemesis
\n57:55 - Trial of Agony
\n1:01:45 - Altanak, the Thrice-Called
\n1:03:19 - Valgavoth Terror Eater
\n1:08:14 - Kona, Rescue Beastie
\n1:11:42 - Exorcise
\n1:15:30 - Nashi, Searcher in the Dark
\n1:18:20 - Hedge Shredder
\n1:21:24 - Roaring Furnace
\n1:24:14 - Walk-In Closet
\n1:27:50 - Our top cards from Duskmourn
\n1:33:41 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nGerry's Boros Energy: https://x.com/G3RRYT/status/1835089558964232249
\nNRG winrate matrix: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/10-000-showdown-nrg-series-louisville-kentucky-tournament-169856/winrates
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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A new Pioneer metagame is upon us, just in time for a slate of new cards from Duskmourn. On this week's show, we review Pioneer MTGO Challenge results following the Amalia and Sorin bans, take a closer look at the hot new Rakdos Aggro deck making waves in the format, and peer into the latest spoilers from Duskrmourn.
\n\nThe Break Down: Rakdos Aggro, So Hot Right Now
\nThe Dive Down: Duskmourn Spoilers, pt 1
Timestamps:
\n7:01 - Heavy Play is not a true crime
\n9:37 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n12:41 - The Break Down begins: Checking in on Pioneer
\n29:19 - Rakdos Prowess in Pioneer
\n37:12 - The Dive Down begins: Duskmourn previews!
\n42:19 - The mechanics of Duskmourn
\n56:22 - The Land cycles
\n1:03:22 - The Leyline cycle
\n1:10:35 - Pyroclasm
\n1:12:22 - Abhorrent Oculus
\n1:15:22 - Marvin, Murderous Mimic
\n1:17:16 - Split Up
\n1:19:25 - Kaito, Bane of Nightmares
\n1:22:10 - Chainsaw
\n1:25:37 - Silent Hallcreeper
\n1:27:33 - Nowhere to Run
\n1:29:09 - Unstoppable Slasher
\n1:32:01 - Razorkin Needlehead
\n1:35:44 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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What a long strange trip it's been... from Chicago to Seattle! On this week's show, Stan shares stories and highlights from his visit to Wizards of the Coast headquarters. Then we look at the first batch of Modern results since the Nadu ban, and breath a sigh of relief at a format finding its footing.
\n\nThe Break Down: The Sights and Sounds of Renton, WA
\nThe Dive Down: Energy Looks Good, Modern Looks Better
Timestamps:
\n5:13 - Heavy Play is better than Mountain Dewmwake
\n7:13 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n12:25 - The Break Down begins: Stan went to WOTC!
\n41:40 - Stan interviews Blake Rasmussen
\n51:45 - Stan interviews Aaron Forsythe, Mike Turian, and Carmen Klomparens
\n1:04:14 - The Dive Down begins: Post-ban Modern
\n1:23:29 - Dave played Hollow One
\n1:34:47 - Devon played Naya Energy
\n1:48:34 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nSamalia Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6612111#paper
\nDevon's Naya Energy: https://x.com/d00mwake/status/1830402879229755474
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week we talk about... what else? With multiple cards banned in Pioneer and Modern — and a few cards left suspiciously untouched — we talk through what happened, how we feel about it, and what we think will happen next.
\n\n• It Finally Happened
\n• Sorin and Amalia Go in Pioneer
\n• Nadu and Grief (?) Go in Modern
Timestamps:
\n6:09 - Heavy Play will not file an injunction against you
\n8:08 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n11:14 - The Break Down begins: Bans in Pioneer
\n13:56 - Amalia is banned
\n21:45 - Sorin is banned
\n26:35 - What wasn't banned?
\n37:06 - Bans in Modern!
\n47:50 - Should Commander impact Modern?
\n56:20 - Why was Nadu banned?
\n1:14:20 - The One Ring - not banned!
\n1:28:40 - Changes to the B&R schedule
\n1:33:58 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nWOTC's B&R Announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-26-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\nMichael Majors's Article: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/on-banning-nadu-winged-wisdom-in-modern
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Despite Stan getting Nadu's out of a Modern RCQ, he brushed off the dust and went back to MTGO for some Rakdos Lizards in Standard. Then Shane casts Through the Breach to cheat some Eldrazi into play, and Dave revisits a few Modern Wizards in an updated Izzet shell.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n7:24 - Heavy Play enhances your natural abilities
\n9:28 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n14:27 - The Break Down begins: Stan played an RCQ
\n21:04 - More data from Anaël Yahi
\n23:35 - The Dive Down begins: Stan played Rakdos Lizards in Standard
\n44:00 - Shane played Through the Breach in Modern
\n1:08:30 - Dave played Izzet... stuff in Modern
\n1:19:40 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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On this week's show, we marvel at the return of Through the Breach in MTGO Modern events, followed by a couple level up topics about scooping and mulligans. Then Lee McLeod drops buy to educate us about some Nadu Loops, and we wrap with a walk down memory lane via Dave's box of former playables.
\n\nThe Break Down: Return of Through the Breach?
\nThe Dive Down: Conceding? Mulliganning?
\nThe Dive Down cont.: Nadu Looping with Lee McLoud!
\nThe Wind Down: Dave's Box of Secrets
Timestamps:
\n6:44 - Heavy Play is not sold at Mars Cheese Castle
\n7:55 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n12:55 - The Break Down begins: Some more weekend challenges
\n23:05 - The return of Through The Breach?
\n29:05 - Cool Decks, Inc
\n37:59 - The Dive Down begins: Should you concede more or less?
\n54:45 - Why concede less?
\n1:02:10 - Mulliganning, briefly
\n1:06:11 - Learning loops with Lee (McLeod)
\n1:34:00 - The Wind Down begins: Would you like to play a game?
\n1:46:49 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week it's a bit of a grab bag — or bags? Or grabs bag? One is the state of Modern since MH3, the other is our first tests with Bloomburrow in Modern and Pioneer. We take a dive through several recent challenges and a whole mess of concerning stats from frequently cited Modern watcher, Anaël Yahi. After that, we take a look at a few Bloomburrow cards in Modern and Pioneer — does Thundertrap Trainer slap? Is Rottenmouth Viper the truth... in Pioneer? We talk about all this and more.
\n\n• Anaël Drops Another Banger
\n• Mocked by Bird
\n• Only a Snake Can Kill Another Snake
Timestamps:
\n3:51 - Heavy Play is as good as quick pickles
\n5:52 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n11:01 - The Break Down begins: The current state of Modern
\n18:29 - The Modern Super Qualifier
\n27:40 - MH3-era paper data breakdown
\n41:55 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow in Modern
\n42:34 - Mockingbird
\n49:17 - Thundertrap Trainer
\n55:55 - Innkeeper's Talent
\n1:02:22 - Helga, Skittish Seer/Feed the Cycle
\n1:10:14 - d00m loves Rottenmouth Viper in Pioneer
\n1:26:29 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nAnaël Yahi's Metrics Tweet: https://x.com/AnaelYahi/status/1820337686982369522
\nD00mwake's Boros Energy List (Modern): https://www.mtgo.com/decklist/modern-challenge-64-2024-08-0312666568?player=D00mwake#deck_D00mwake
\nIzzet by SvenSveeterSven (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6550302#paper
\nMono Green Scales (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6553561#paper
\nOmnath + Helga by DackFayden (Modern): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6556724#paper
\nD00m's Dimir Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9nyVhbjTEUW28T2w-JHHEw
\nD00m's Golgari Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/6M6aAGQTNEiUXsJWUaorOA
\nD00m's Rakdos Viper List (Pioneer): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Eki38qUUfkaIB9aqTYDwoQ
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Modern Boros Energy has quickly emerged as a Tier 1 Modern deck despite the ongoing menace of Nadu taking over tournaments left and right. On this week's show, The Dive Down is joined by YungDingo to break down how the deck functions, how to sequence its various 1-drops, and the benefits of splashing into black for Mardu Energy.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:56 - A Dingo ate my Heavy Play
\n4:40 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n8:55 - The Dive Down begins: A wild Dingo appears!
\n17:28 - Inside the Grinder's Studio
\n21:52 - What is Boros Energy all about?
\n26:20 - The 1-drops
\n36:52 - The 2-drops
\n51:30 - The 3-drops
\n1:08:45 - Interaction
\n1:13:40 - The Energy economy
\n1:17:42 - The matchups
\n1:26:56 - The future of Boros Energy
\n1:31:01 - Bye, Dingo!
Links from this week's episode:
\ntwitch.tv/yungdingo
\nx.com/yungdingomtg
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6540163#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Someone finally did it... Crashing Footfalls has revealed its beautiful face again in a post-MH3 Modern tournament, so D00mwake and Stan had to try the deck out themselves. Then we share our favorite picks from Bloomburrow in the final week of spoilers for the upcoming set.
\n\nThe Break Down: Stan and Devon talk about the same deck again.
\nThe Dive Down: Dave talks about the same cards again. Shane has the same doubts again.
Timestamps:
\n6:00 - Heavy Play, not a camarone
\n7:10 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n11:01 - The Break Down begins: The rhinos are back in town
\n43:44 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow spoilers, part 2
\n44:26 - The Infamous Cruelclaw (revisited)/Sunspine Lynx
\n49:53 - Osteomancer Adept
\n52:36 - Lumra, Bellow of the Woods
\n55:04 - Beza, the Bounding Spring (revisited)/Dourport Mage
\n1:00:37 - Huskburster Swarm
\n1:03:13 - Fountainport
\n1:05:21 - Jackdaw Savior
\n1:09:34 - Vinereap Mentor
\n1:11:10 - Ygra, Eater of All
\n1:15:25 - Darkstar Auger
\n1:17:54 - Stormsplitter
\n1:20:22 - Valley Mightcaller
\n1:21:14 - Keen-Eyed Curator
\n1:25:28 - Thundertrap Trainer
\n1:27:30 - Our picks to click
\n1:35:16 - Wrapping up
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Oh look, another Modern tournament dominated by Nadu decks! On this week's show, we break down the results from NRG Chicago, which included a Modern 10K and some cheeky side events featuring the rhino boys. Then we dive into our Bloomburrow spoilers.
\n\n• No Surprises, All Alarms
\n• Higher Highs for Nadu
\n• The Cutest Little Cards Ever
Timestamps:
\n3:08 - Heavy Play is anything but bland
\n5:13 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n9:51 - The Break Down begins: NRG Chicagoland
\n26:20 - The MTGO Modern Super Qualifier
\n35:21 - The Dive Down begins: Bloomburrow Spoilers begin!
\n41:42 - Hidden Grotto
\n42:51 - Three Tree City
\n46:28 - Heartfire Hero
\n49:10 - Into the Floodmaw
\n52:13 - Iridescent Vinelasher
\n53:46 - Might of the Meek
\n55:41 - Valley Mightcaller
\n56:51 - Mistbreath Elder
\n59:49 - Emberheart Challenger
\n1:02:20 - Kitsa, Otterball Elite
\n1:06:37 - Brazen Collector/Coruscation Mage
\n1:09:33 - Artist's Talent
\n1:11:32 - Dawn's Truth
\n1:13:13 - Dewdrop Cure
\n1:15:33 - Pearl of Wisdom
\n1:16:17 - Rottenmouth Viper
\n1:18:17 - Huskburster Swarm
\n1:20:54 - Ral, Crackling Wit
\n1:22:43 - Maha, Its Feathers Night
\n1:25:00 - The Season Cycle
\n1:27:38 - Mockingbird
\n1:29:40 - The Infamous Cruelclaw
\n1:31:56 - Beza, The Bounding Spring
\n1:35:16 - Wrapping up
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We couldn't get through an episode without mentioning the lack of a Nadu ban, but quickly dive into the huge batch of MTGO data that was finally unlocked after several weeks of downtime. Then we recap some of our favorite sideboard cards in the current Modern Metagame, and announce latest love of Basim Ibn Ishaq and Ocelot Pride.
\n\nWe kick off the show by asking the difficult question, "What is WOTC waiting for?" Then we dive into a ton of MTGO data, which finally came back this week with decks from Leagues, Challenges, and Last Chance qualifiers. We review the most successul decks and admire some of the coolest outliers.
\n\nThen we rundown some of the biggest sideboard cards to make a splash after MH3 and the decks they attack most.
\n\nThe Break Down: What are they waiting for?
\nThe Break Down, cont.: New Pivot Tables Unlocked
\nThe Dive Down: How to Sideboard for MH3
Timestamps:
\n6:00 - Heavy Play will not remove your fingers
\n9:24 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n14:32 - The Break Down begins: Nadu's still here
\n22:10 - Decklists are back, and we broke them down
\n30:17 - MH3 has dramatically changed Modern - is this good?
\n47:55 - Some new decks on the Modern scene
\n1:11:28 - The Dive Down begins: New meta, new sideboards
\n1:31:39 - Winding down
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PT Amsterdam was last week and Modern will never be the same. This week Dave, Devon, and Stan talk about the huge impact MH3 cards had on the tournament — and, of course, spend a ton of time speculating about what's going to happen with Nadu. Bans? Errata? Only Fly Away? We'll see, but we mostly bet it won't happen until about 6 weeks from now (sorry).
\n\nDevon shares what he thinks the next best deck will be. Stan gets energetic about his RCQ deck choice. Dave is torn between two ways to gain card advantage.
\n\n• 25.5% Nah Dude
\n• Anyone Have a Line on Cheap Soul Spikes?
\n• Is The One Ring The Real Problem?
Timecodes:
\n2:30: Introduction
\n5:53: We Love Heavy Play
\n7:38: Housekeeping
\n9:35: PT Amsterdam Day 1 Metagame
\n15:10: Winrates, etc., starting with Nadu
\n17:01: Sideboard Cards (RIP Storm)
\n21:55: The Next Decks: Jeskai Energy Control and Necrodominance
\n31:31: 10-0 Lists (Bant Nadu, Necro, Esper Goryo's)
\n35:49: Boros Energy
\n43:18: Domain Zoo
\n45:10: Mono Black Grief
\n47:03: Underperformers (Storm, Merfolk)
\n52:48: Focus on Nadu
\n53:06: Eldrazi Winter and Hogaak
\n1:01:16: We Said the B Word — Time to Ban Nadu
\n1:09:38: What About The One Ring?
\n1:18:10: What We're Doing During the Nadu Era
\n1:20:30: Signoff
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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On this week's show, we take a look at the results from Modern's first big paper tournaments since the release of MH3. We chat about NRG St. Louis, MXP Tacoma, our predictions for PT Amsterdam, Stan's experiences playing Bant Nadu, Devon's experiments with Kappa Cannoneer, and Dave (and Devon's) explorations of Energy Prowess.
\n\nThe Break Down: Paper Modern Shows its Colors
\nThe Dive Down: Nadu, Kappa, and Mutagenic Growth
Timestamps:
\n5:41 - Heavy Play time
\n7:00 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n10:22 - The Break Down begins: the NRG St. Louis Modern event
\n19:12 - The MXP Tacoma Modern event
\n24:55 - What does the PT metagame potentially look like?
\n48:31 - The Dive Down begins: What's the deal with these new cards?
\n49:57 - Stan Nadu'd so you Nadon't have to
\n1:03:30 - Devon loves Kappa Cannoneer
\n1:11:15 - Dave (and Devon) played Energy Prowess
\n1:23:20 - We mention a single Assassin's Creed card
\n1:26:00 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://melee.gg/Tournament/View/52904
\nhttps://melee.gg/Tournament/View/79404
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6464281#paper
\nhttps://www.moxfield.com/decks/6oV78FnDbkCjyWt3OEVKRg
\nhttps://www.moxfield.com/decks/mhmc1tqudk23WRA4yUUhew
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's time to rev up those rental accounts because new cards are on the horizon. On this week's show, Shane and Stan (aka The Cool S Bros) share their war stories of leaguing with Modern Horizon 3 decks. Stan fires up some Boros Energy and Ruby Storm, while Shane locks his opponents out with Eldrazi Prison.
\n\nWe kick off the show with a high level check-in on format diversity in the weeks following MH3's release. Then we chat about the one-two punch of Guide of Souls and Ajani, flexible applications for Kozilek's Command, and Storming off against The One Ring decks.
\n\nThe Break Down: MH3 Week 2
\nThe Dive Down: Sleeve, Believe, Heaving new decks in Modern
Timestamps:
\n7:12 - Heavy Play is lovely
\n8:51 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n14:54 - The Break Down begins: The new top tier of Modern?
\n25:10 - The Dive Down begins: Stan played Boros Energy
\n50:52 - Shane played Eldrazi Prison Tron
\n1:19:18 - Stan played Ruby Storm
\n1:33:16 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Welcome to the new Horizon of Modern. That long awaited day is finally here — Horizons 3 has launched and is in the hands of anyone who wants to: 1) use a Bird Wizard to draw their whole deck, 2) Break a line with a bowl of spaghet monsters, 3) Pay life to draw cards, then DIE, and 4) explore an potentially incredible new format.
\n\nThis week Dave and Devon talk through early impressions of decks we're seeing, things we've tested, early results from an MH3-inclusive 5k in Las Vegas and more. Tune in for the Nadu, stay for the Unstable Amulet. It's another week on The Dive Down!
\n\n• Nadu
\n• Eldrazi
\n• And All the Rest of the Cards
Timestamps:
\n3:20 — Heavy Play Means Business
\n7:40 — Housekeeping
\n9:30 — The only place we can start: Nadu
\n27:15 — Big Eldrazi (Tron)
\n33:40 — Lil 'Drazi (Aggro)
\n42:00 — Affinity
\n43:55 — Ruby Storm
\n52:05 — Energy Decks (Boros, R Prowess, 4c Control)
\n56:40 — Mono Black Griefs, Scam (Necrodominance and more)
\n1:07:02 — Buried Alive/Phoenix
\n1:09:38 — Stuff We Haven't Seen (Flare of Cultivation, Shifting Woodlands)
\n1:13:03 — What We've Excited for Next
\n1:16:01 — What About Old Modern?
\n1:17:19 — Outro
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It took another couple hours but we finally made it through the complete MH3 spoiler (even after skipping a ton of limited fodder). We wrap up our set review with the gold cards along with the new to Modern reprints, and cap it off with some of our favorite cards in the set and a few called shots about cards to watch.
\n\nWe at least mention every card by name so YOU KNOW if we don't think a card is good enough to see play.
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Timestamps:
\n4:26 - Heavy Play: likely better than Dark Knight Rises
\n5:36 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n9:29 - Multicolored
\n35:12 - Artifacts
\n46:50 - Lands
\n1:04:25 - Dual-Faced cards
\n1:28:26 - Reprints
\n1:57:18 - Our MH3 awards
\n2:10:12 - Our final takes on MH3
\n2:20:55 - Wrapping up
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It's finally here! The Modern Horizons 3 spoiler is complete — and wow do we have a lot to talk about. Join us this week as Dave, Devon, and Shane talk through every card * in the set from Colorless and WUBRG. We debate which new Eldrazi titan is best, how much energy you need to feel paid off, some pet cards that we wish we good, and more! Lots more because we're talking about every card *.
\n\nWe at least mention every card by name so YOU KNOW if we don't think a card is good enough to see play.
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Timestamps:
\n3:17 - Heavy Play is nothing to be apprehensive about
\n5:01 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n9:08 - The Dive Down: It's Modern Horizons 3 set review time!
\n10:10 - Colorless
\n23:29 - White
\n45:30 - Blue
\n1:10:05 - Black
\n1:32:42 - Red
\n1:50:53 - Green
\n2:07:05 - Wrapping up
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The time has finally come for the sea change that is Modern Horizons 3. We dissect the first batch of official spoilers from Tuesday, and revisit some of our most embarrassing evaluations from MH2 spoiler season all those moons ago.
\n\nWe chat about Phlage, the Eldrazi Titans, the Flares and Medallions, new toys for Storm, and lots more!
\n\nThe Dive Down: The MH3 Spoiler Season We Always Wanted
\nThe Wind Down: The MH2 Spoiler Season We Hoped to Forget
Timestamps:
\n7:10 - Heavy Play can hold MH3 cards
\n9:08 - Housekeeping/this week's episode
\n12:37 - The Dive Down begins: MH3 spoilers begin!
\n15:26 - Stan's Polygon spoiler: Phlage, Titan of Fire's Fury
\n24:17 - Amped Raptor
\n28:00 - Devourer of Destiny
\n30:51 - Ulamog the Defiler
\n35:49 - Breaker of Creation
\n36:39 - Ugin's Labyrinth
\n39:52 - Thief of Existence
\n41:51 - Basking Broodscale
\n44:36 - Kozilek, the Broken Reality
\n49:00 - Flare of Fortitude (and other Flares)
\n54:09 - Flare of Duplication
\n55:11 - The Medallions
\n59:16 - Ral, Monsoon Mage
\n1:03:07 - Tamiyo, Inquisitive Student
\n1:05:06 - Harbinger of the Seas
\n1:09:58 - Orim's Chant
\n1:11:19 - Powerbalance
\n1:12:54 - Double-faced lands
\n1:14:54 - Eladamri, Korvecdal
\n1:19:01 - Our worst takes from the MH2 spoiler season
\n1:30:13 - Wrapping up
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On this week's show, the four amigos break down the results of the Modern Open at NRG Indianapolis, the last big paper Modern tournament before MH3 changes everything (presumably). Plus, D00mwake joins the dark side and started playing Phoenix. And Stan tries some new cards in Ensoul, plus a bunch of OJT drafts.
\n\nThe Break Down: The Motor City is a Real Zoo Meta
\nThe Dive Down: Be the Bad Guy, Play Phoenix
\nThe Dive Down cont.: Stan Likes OTJ
Timestamps:
\n6:56 - Heavy Play is our favorite co-host
\n8:25 - Goodbye, Tanner!
\n12:23 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n17:15 - NRG Indy's Modern $10K
\n46:15 - Cool decks grab bag - d00m on Izzet Phoenix
\n56:36 - Stan played some new cards in Ensoul
\n1:08:20 - Talking about Freestrider Lookout
\n1:13:45 - Stan loves OTJ draft
\n1:25:40 - Wrapping up
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After a brief intro, Stan is forced to drop out of the ep leaving Shane and Dave in the hot seat. First, they examine last weekend's 4 Modern Challenges in search of ideas, inspiration, and surprises. Do you know what the highest frequency deck was in all these Challenges? How about the one most likely to convert to an X-2 or better record? After all the event talk, the team goes deep into Andrea Mengucci's Gruul Prowess list from the weekend and welcome the return of the real king — Tarmogoyf.
\n\n• Shane & Dave Take Over
\n• A Few Surprising Challenges
\n• More Talk About Tarmogoyf
Timestamps:
\n1:55 - Stanley Cups x Heavy Play
\n5:33 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n9:49 - The current Modern Challenge metagame
\n34:48 - Gruul Prowess in Modern
\n51:25 - Is Abundant Harvest good?
\n54:22 - Is Questing Druid good?
\n58:26 - More on Gruul Prowess
\n1:11:52 - Briefly talking MH3 spoilers
\n1:18:37 - Turn it off if you want: some Survivor chat
\n1:24:50 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nBamzing's Challenge Posts:
\nSaturday: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/1ckv7pz/saturday_modern_challenges_results_may_4_2024/
\nSunday: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/1cllxrd/sunday_modern_challenges_results_may_5_2024/
\nMengu's Prowess List: https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1786721343523704991
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Shout out to Wizards of the Coast for seeing some poor quality card pictures in the wild and letting us see them in high definition instead. Official MH3 spoilers dropped this week, on the heels of the latest Pro Tour. Stan and D00mwake discuss!
\n\nDo Pro Tours still mean anything? Perhaps when the format they feature is fresh and exciting! We don't talk about Standard often, but enough innovations emerged at PT Thunder Junction, we were pumped to chat about the latest cards and winning decks.
\n\nSpeaking of latest cards. MH3 spoilers came early, despite the somewhat awkward circumstances. The Dive Down doesn't discuss leaks, but official spoilers have started to roll out and we chat about some standouts, including Flare of Denial, Winter Moon, Kappa Cannoneer, and Wight of the Reliquery.
\n\nThe Break Down: A Pro Tour for the Cowboy In All Of Us
\nThe Dive Down: A Look, A New Free Counterspell
Timestamps:
\n01:40 - Intro
\n02:00 - Holding a Heavy Play Heart
\n04:10 - A d00mwake-style Omelette
\n07:30 - This aggression will not stand
\n09:20 - This week’s show/housekeeping
\n16:05 - PT Seattle: What does it mean now?
\n19:40 - Overall Metagame
\n27:10 - Winrates
\n35:25 - Top 8
\n43:10 - Final thoughts on Standard
\n48:20 - Modern Horizons 3 early spoilers
\n49:05 - Nethergoyf
\n53:50 - Chthonian Nightmare
\n59:15 - Ugin’s Labyrinth
\n1:04:16 - Flare of Denial
\n1:09:22 - Kappa Cannoneer
\n1:12:45 - Winter Moon
\n1:16:25 - Wight of the Reliquary
\n1:21:21 - Wrapping Up
Links from this week's episode:
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A new spellslinger's in town — goes by the name Slickshot Show-Off. This week we focus on the most hyped card coming into OTJ season, where it's fitting across formats, and talk about a few tricks to making sure the show off goes off without a hitch... off. Is there anything we can do to keep Dave from falling into a deep Prowess hole again? Probably not, but we're going to try — and just in case you're trying to avoid catching Prowess, too, we also talk about a few other decks Devon is having success with in Pioneer. But first — before all that — we dive into the Modern main event at this weekend's NRG Minneapolis tournament.
\n\n• NRG Minneapolis
\n• The Show Off Rides Again
\n• It's Basically Demonic Tutor
Timestamps:
\n4:30 - Heavy Play has clout
\n6:42 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n11:32 - The Break Down begins: NRG Minneapolis
\n24:34 - The top 8
\n28:55 - Cool Decks, Inc
\n33:04 - The Dive Down begins: We played some cool decks!
\n34:10 - Slickshot Showoff - does it live up to the hype in Modern?
\n56:45 - Does it live up to the hype in Pioneer?
\n1:09:05 - Golgari Vampires in Pioneer
\n1:16:35 - Azorius Mentor Zombies in Pioneer
\n1:25:18 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Modern Open Decklists: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/51194
\nAlex Poulosky, Modern Temur Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/388962
\nNathan VanDinter, Modern Temur Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/388996
\nRyan Overturf, Modern Gruul Prowess: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/387842
\nDevon O'Donnell, Pioneer Gruul Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6332355#paper
\nd00mwake, Pioneer Golgari Vampires: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6338707#paper
\nDevon O'Donnell (aka d00mwake), Pioneer UW Zombie Mentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6339425#paper
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On this week’s show, we manage to fill that awkward week between spoilers and set release by preparing for the upcoming RCQ season, which conveniently kicks off this weekend. We take a look at the Pioneer metagame going into the season, and some possible upgrades from Outlaws of Thunder Junction that could shake up the format too.
\n\nEverything but the water and Clif Bars
\nNew season old decks
\nD00m has prepared some new decks
Timestamps:
\n5:42 - Barenaked Heavy Play
\n7:35 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n11:17 - The Dive Down begins: Prepping for Pioneer RCQ season
\n22:21 - The current Pioneer meta - Tier 1
\n42:07 - The Tier 2 decks
\n56:31 - Some Cool Decks
\n59:50 - d00m's hot new decks for Pioneer
\n1:22:01 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nAnael Yahi's Data: https://twitter.com/anaelyahi/status/1779962905099665648
\nMetagame Mentor: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-pioneer-decks-to-defeat-at-april-2024-rcqs
\nMTGDecks.net Pioneer Winrates: https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/winrates
\nD00m's Dimir Proft: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322644#paper
\nD00m's Slickshot Heroic: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322647#paper
\nD00m's Azorius Geralf: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322650#paper
\nD00m's MonoB Bronco: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322652#paper
\nD00m's Bant Plot: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322653#paper
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We said we'd never lie to you, but maybe... maybe we'd forget that there were another 30 mythics left to talk about in this set. So we did it for you — more cards! This week Dave, Devon, and Shane talk about what might happen with some of these weird, weird cards from The Big Score. Do we tell a certain Jitte to stay lost? What happens when we break out the Synthesizer? What card that Devon loves left Dave and Shane quaking in their boots?
\n\nAfter we discuss The Big Score, we take a quick trip through Pure Modern 5 — the most recent installment of Devon's "What if there was a simpler Modern?" tournaments.
\n\n• Congrats, Tanner
\n• The Spoils of the Vault
\n• Pure Modern: Stormwing is Back, Baby
Timestamps:
\n1:40 - Heavy Play is not impacted by the eclipse
\n5:52 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n9:03 - The Dive Down begins: The Big Score
\n12:20 - Lost Jitte
\n19:08 - Worldwalker Helm
\n23:00 - Simulacrum Synthesizer
\n27:01 - Bristlebud Farmer
\n30:22 - Torpor Orb
\n32:26 - Pest Control
\n36:26 - Generous Plunderer
\n39:13 - Sandstorm Salvager
\n41:25 - Harvester of Misery
\n44:20 - Grand Abolisher
\n46:35 - Legion Extruder
\n48:42 - Memory Vessel
\n49:58 - Esoteric Duplicator
\n53:24 - Greed's Gambit
\n57:16 - Sword of Wealth and Power
\n59:55 - Loot, the Key to Everything
\n1:02:52 - d00mwake's 5th Pure Modern tournament
\n1:17:08 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nd00m's Pure Modern 5 Meta: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/70042
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Our friends from across the Multiverse have flooded the desert sands of Thunder Junction, and brought a host of exciting new spoiler cards with them. We recap some of our favorite cards and other notable arrivals in Magic's 100th set.
\n\nAre all the Spree cards great or merely good? Is the emphasis on Crime cards the latest symptom of Magic's moral decline? Have we lost the Plot or simply found a new way to cast spells for free?
\n\nD00mwake likes Duelist of the Mind. Dave likes Requisition Raid. Shane likes Magda, the Hoardmaster. Stan likes Calamity, Galloping Inferno.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n6:39 - Heavy Play is not an April Fool's joke
\n8:54 - Housekeeping/this week's episode
\n11:15 - The mechanics of Outlaws of Thunder Junction
\n20:07 - Aven Interrupter
\n23:58 - Final Showdown
\n27:05 - Fortune, Loyal Steed
\n29:07 - High Noon
\n31:30 - Claim Jumper
\n33:15 - Requisition Raid/Bovine Intervention
\n37:16 - Getaway Glamour
\n37:17 - Oltec Matterweaver
\n41:15 - Archmages Newt
\n44:28 - Duelist of the Mind
\n48:24 - Jace, Reawakened
\n51:22 - Geralf, the Fleshwright
\n53:35 - The Key to the Vault
\n56:49 - Three Steps Ahead
\n59:10 - Kaervek, the Punisher
\n1:10:59 - Hollow Murauder
\n1:04:30 - Lively Dirge
\n1:07:06 - Insatiable Avarice
\n1:09:09 - Pitiless Carnage
\n1:10:40 - Magda, the Hordemaster
\n1:13:22 - Magebane Lizard/Reckless Lackey
\n1:14:40 - Slickshot Showoff
\n1:19:01 - Calamity, Galloping Inferno
\n1:20:40 - Aloe Alchemist/Bristly Bill, Spine Sower
\n1:22:40 - Collosal Rattlewurm
\n1:24:14 - Smuggler's Surprise
\n1:27:10 - Railway Brawler
\n1:29:05 - Ornery Tumblewagg/Trash the Town
\n1:32:40 - Akul the Unrepentant
\n1:34:30 - Assimilation Aegis
\n1:36:40 - Doc Aurlock, Grizzled Genius/Ghired, Mirror of the Wilds/Intimidation Campaign
\n1:38:04 - Oko, the Ringleader/Obeka, Splitter of Seconds
\n1:40:36 - Satoru, the Infiltrator
\n1:44:35 - Pillage the Bog
\n1:46:54 - Lavaspur Boots
\n1:50:08 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://scryfall.com/sets/otj?order=set&as=grid
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Results are in from LMS Prague and we break down the top decks at the 265 player event. Then chat about our experiences playing a couple versions of Domain Zoo. And D00mwake shares the secret to winning an RCQ.
\n\nThe Break Down: Legacy European Tour Master Series Prague, Grand Open Qualifier (Modern)
\nThe Dive Down: Takeaways - A Domain Zoo Experience Discussion
\nThe Wind Down: D00mwake won an RCQ!
Timestamps:
\n5:35 - Heavy Plan is not from Khans era
\n7:33 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n11:35 - The Break Down begins: The Legacy European Tour Prague Modern Open!
\n23:18 - The top 8 results
\n30:27 - Winrates and matchups
\n48:20 - How are we feeling about Modern?
\n53:04 - The Dive Down begins: It's all happening at the zoo
\n1:17:05 - Devon won another RCQ!
\n1:29:51 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://melee.gg/Tournament/View/59235
\nhttps://twitter.com/MTGdecks/status/1772028283762192725
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6272273#paper
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6273416#paper
\nhttps://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1771203670236909886
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This weekend was the annual Hunter Burton Memorial Open, the first large paper Modern tournament since the recent B&R. We dive into the tournament results to see where the format is headed, try out some of the latest versions of Rhinos to see if Cascade still works, and enjoy a little Goryo's Vengeance as a treat.
\n\nThanks to smarter people than us, we've reviewed a ton of Modern results and win percentages to get a sense for who's beating who in the latest Modern format. We review some of the expected strategies to rise in popularity in a post-Rhino Modern tournament, admire some possible up and comers to the metagame, and pontificate about where Modern can go from here.
\n\nThen Stan and Shane fire up some Rhino decks to see if the Cascade hits keep coming without Violent Outburst, and Stan finally wraps up his Goryo's Vengeance league and experiences some Scam flashbacks.
\n\nThe Break Down: Hunter Burton Memorial Open results to chew on.
\nThe Dive Down: Rainbow Rhino and Goryo's Vengeance decks to stew on.
Timestamps:
\n4:20 - Heavy Play gets a thumbs up
\n6:53 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n10:16 - The Break Down begins: The HBMO Modern Event
\n53:34 - Stan plays Goryo's Vengeance
\n1:06:05 - Stan and Shane played the new Rainbow Rhinos
\n1:32:39 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The mad lads did it, they banned our beloved Violent Outburst in Modern. We're not particularly happy about the outcome or its communication, but we discuss what it means for Cascade decks and the format moving forward.
\n\nIn today's episode, we delve into the somewhat surprising B&R announcement and discuss the survivability of Cascade strategies moving forward. We assess some potential winners and losers from the news, including some decks to watch out for in the coming weeks, including Yawgmoth, Titan, Reaninator, Creativity, and more. We also express our concerns about the ban announcement lacking detailed data, as we had hoped for more transparent communication from Wizards of the Coast. The absence of bans in Pioneer also caught our attention, and we critiqued the announcement for its perceived shortcomings, urging for greater detail and insight in future communications.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:15 - Heavy Play will not be banned
\n4:52 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n7:32 - The Dive Down begins: Violent Outburst is banned!
\n32:33 - How we feel about the actual ban
\n45:00 - Where does Rhinos go?
\n50:50 - Where does Modern go?
\n1:02:25 - What about Pioneer?
\n1:13:45 - Yes, we talked about Balatro again
\n1:29:47 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nMarch 11 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-11-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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A discourse is brewing on this week's Dive Down, as the rhino boyz reflect on some of the issues Modern players seem to have with the current format and metagame. Can we close Pandora's box of free spells and triomes? Will MH3 save us? Or could WOTC do something more... drastic..?
\n\nThe Break Down: Devon asked, you answered.
\n\nThe Dive Down: Eight Hateful Hypotheses
\n\nThe Wind Down: Love that joker... for about 20 minutes.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:30 - Heavy Play: easy to open
\n8:09 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n11:50 - The Dive Down begins: Modern's Hate Hypotheses
\n21:25 - Grief.
\n27:55 - Cascade.
\n39:15 - Free spells.
\n49:35 - The mana.
\n58:37 - The One Ring/Bowmasters.
\n1:07:51 - Modern is stale.
\n1:12:16 - Did a perfect Modern ever exist?
\n1:19:50 - The Wind Down: It's Balatro time!
\n1:38:18 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Last weekend was MagicCon Chicago — and wow are we tired, friends. Join the Rhino Boyz as we recap the main event, side events, and small events that made up what was a great weekend in the Motor City! Shane give a metagame breakdown of the PT. Stan takes a shot at the cup. D00m plays the hero. Dave falls in love with a bunch of real Jokers.
\n\n• They Broke It
\n• Rats, Assassins, Villians, and Free Spells
\n• We Tried It
Timestamps:
\n3:38 - Heavy Play is not on a PIP
\n6:18 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n10:42 - The Break Down begins: MagicCon Chicago!
\n14:11 - A Pro Tour MKM breakdown
\n39:08 - The PT Top 8
\n41:46 - Final thoughts on the PT
\n45:04 - 4 new sets from the MC Preview Panel
\n1:10:53 - An interview with Blake Rasmussen and Roy Graham from WOTC
\n1:32:30 - The Dive Down begins: Rakdos Vampires takes a bite out of Pioneer
\n1:52:48 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nPT Meta on Melee: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/52679
\nFrank Karsten's WR%s: https://twitter.com/karsten_frank/status/1761570878737748061/photo/1
\nPreview card reference: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/future-sets-spoilers-february-23-modern-horizons-3-thunder-junction-bloomburrow-and-assassin-s-creed
\nSeth Manfield's/CFB's RB Vampires Decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6211825#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The MagicCon is finally upon us. We prepare for a weekend full of side events by looking at the most exciting innovations for our favorite formats, and figure out how to win the most tickets for the coveted prize wall.
\n\nWe take a look at Modern and Standard results since the release of Murders, plus whatever Pioneer results we can get our hands on, to share our favorite decks in each format and what strategies appear to be performing best too.
\n\nWe also stop by the first NRG Series Open of the year in beauitiful Elmhurst, Illinois to chat with Dom Harvey, Misplaced Ginger, and Christian Calcano!
\n\nDon't forget, sign up for the officicial Dive Down afterparty at thedivedown.com/chicago!
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:56 - Heavy Play: not complicated
\n6:04 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n12:37 - The Break Down begins: The NRG Chicago Pioneer $10k
\n19:05 - An interview with Derek Pite (aka Misplaced Ginger)
\n27:27 - Back to NRG Chicago
\n39:38 - The NRG Chicago Standard $5k
\n42:50 - The Dive Down begins: Planning for Magiccon Chicago!
\n48:58 - What we're playing in Modern
\n1:07:55 - What we're playing in Pioneer
\n1:18:58 - An interview with Dom Harvey
\n1:29:21 - Some Standard thoughts
\n1:42:04 - An interview with Christian Calcano
\n1:48:10 - Some final stuff about Magiccon Chicago
\n1:50:11 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Join us this week as we discuss how Modern has gone rainbow. The full compliment of Rhino Boys — Dave, Devon, Shane, and Stan — are together for the first time this year. We're talking about Modern in upheaval and the results from all the RCs this last weekend.
\n\n• thedivedown.com/chicago
\n• Rhino Supremacy, Part XXIV
\n• Lifelink, Hexproof, Trample, First Strike, Vigilance
Timestamps:
\n0:01 - A big announcement!
\n5:05 - Heavy mise en Play-ce
\n7:56 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n14:51 - The Dive Down: Modern Upheaval, and not the card
\n17:40 - The Dallas RC meta and Leyline Rhinos
\n25:30 - Dallas winrates and conversion rates
\n38:15 - The Dallas top 8 and other Modern events
\n44:29 - A giant winrate matrix
\n56:10 - Up-and-coming decks from the past weekend
\n1:08:41 - Dave played Leyline Zoo
\n1:16:02 - Stan played Leyline Rhinos
\n1:23:40 - Devon played Goryo's Vengeance Asmo stuff
\n1:30:02 - Some brief Pioneer NRG prep chat
\n1:33:05 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nDenver RC listsing: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/54549
\n@AzoriusI's data: https://twitter.com/AzoriusI/status/1757036428674891821?t=eUvsssljH2AZZ0U3SmOWpA&s=19
\nTypical Rainbow Rhinos List (from Mack Endress): https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/363672
\nModern Matrix from MtgDecks.net: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/winrates/range:custom_2024-02-09_2024-02-12
\nd00mwake's Goryo's Vengeance list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6173859#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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RC Denver is coming up. MagicCon Chicago is coming up. As a bit of an amuse bouche for these giant upcoming events, this week Dave and Shane take a look at SCGCON Hartford — Modern $10ks, Pioneer Events — and talk about MKM cards that we've seen pop up across our formats. Leyline? Surveil? More?
\n\n• SCGCON Hartford's Modern $10ks
\n• Surveiling the Landscape
\n• Leyline is where?
Timestamps:
\n3:01 - Heavy Play is out of sight
\n4:50 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n12:17 - SCG Hartford Modern 10k(s) check-in
\n23:15 - Saturday's Top 8 and general performance chat
\n36:28 - Sunday's Modern 10k
\n49:50 - New cards in Hartford's Pioneer events
\n53:55 - New decks from our favorite streamers
\n1:11:49 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week Shane returns, and in celebration we take a quick trip to Ghent to recap the Modern RC this week. What's going on in Modern as we make our way towards the next RC in Denver? But first (well, second, actually) — the last cards we like from MKM, and our top 5 lists!
\n\n• The More Modern Stays the Same, the More it Changes
\n• Rhino Supremacy, Part XVI
\n• More Orrible Murder
Timestamps:
\n3:54 - We can talk about Heavy Play
\n5:34 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n12:07 - The Break Down: Legacy European Championship Ghent
\n16:27 - Dave's Cool Decks, Inc diversion
\n22:52 - Deck performances
\n27:37 - The top 8
\n31:00 - Takes and takeaways
\n37:37 - The Dive Down: Week 2 of Murders at Markov Manor spoilers!
\n40:44 - Reenact the Crime
\n46:16 - Insidious Roots
\n50:49 - Break Out
\n57:55 - Gleaming Geardrake
\n57:56 - Tomik, Wielder of Law
\n1:01:21 - Pick Your Poison
\n1:05:16 - Assemble the Players
\n1:17:15 - Case of the Gorgon's Kiss
\n1:10:01 - Forensic Researcher
\n1:15:16 - Case of the Uneaten Feast
\n1:19:45 - Our Top 5 lists
\n1:39:26 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nGhent matchup grids: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/legacy-european-championship-ghent-legacy-european-tour-tournament-150715/winrates
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's a simple show this week... or is it? Dave and Devon dive into the previews to date of the latest set — Murders at Karlov Manor! Tune in as we discuss Disguises, Cloaks, and whether the Mole God lives up to the hype (spoiler: it does).
\n\nTimestamps:
\n1:10 — Getting Heavy
\n4:00 — Tell Us If You’re Coming to Chicago!
\n4:45 — Spoiler: We’re Talking About Cards!
\n5:45 — Housekeeping
\n7:00 — It’s Cards!!
\n8:00 — It’s Rules!!
\n9:18 — Disguise
\n13:11 — Cloak
\n16:49 — Investigate
\n18:28 — Collect Evidence
\n23:01 — Suspect
\n23:17 — Cases
\n27:56 — Split Cards
\n30:40 — Just Random Cards
\n30:55 — Lightning Helix
\n33:24 — No More Lies
\n36:15 — Warleader’s Call
\n39:41 — Proft’s Eidetic Memory
\n43:25 — Krenko, Baron of Tin Street & Crime Novelist
\n47:37 — Fugitive Codebreaker
\n51:10 — Treacherous Greed
\n55:20 — Intrude on the Mind
\n58:52 — Massacre Girl, Known Killer
\n1:02:25 — Doorkeeper Thrull
\n1:05:53 — Leyline of the Guildpact
\n1:10:34 — Delney, Streetwise Lookout
\n1:13:28 — Anzrag the Quake-Mole
\n1:17:28 — Archdruid’s Charm
\n1:21:58 — Urgent Necropsy
\n1:25:36 — Kylox’s Voltstrider
\n1:30:08 — Sharp-Eyed Rookie
\n1:32:32 — Long Goodbye
\n1:33:04 — Surveil Lands
\n1:36:00 — One More Thing
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Join Shane and Devon as they embark on an epic journey through the realm of... Standard. Yes, Standard. With RCQ season in full swing, it's time to look over all the decks you need to know to be prepared. The boys look at the recent history of standard, how WOTC is trying to revitalize it, and provide insight on basically all the decks in the format. With everything from hyper-aggro to over-the-top ramp, this format has something for everyone!
\n\nThe Dive Down: It's Standard.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:22 - Heavy Play: not bad
\n5:45 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n10:24 - Standard then and now
\n22:09 - So what IS Standard?
\n27:28 - What does Standard look like right now?
\n28:11 - Domain Ramp
\n32:19 - Esper Midrange
\n34:32 - Rakdos Discover
\n37:54 - Golgari Midrange
\n43:00 - Azorius Soldiers/Flash
\n48:14 - Mono-Red Aggro
\n54:57 - Azorius Tokens
\n1:00:26 - The other midrange decks
\n1:10:06 - Big Rakdos
\n1:12:45 - Azorius Craft
\n1:16:30 - Bant Toxic
\n1:21:34 - Azorius Tempo
\n1:24:19 - How to approach Standard in the RCQ season
\n1:33:54 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nFrank's Metagame Mentor article: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-everything-you-need-to-win-your-early-2024-standard-rcq
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's time for The Dive Down to get back to work! We're fully into 2024 and this week Shane and Dave are diving deep into what Modern is right now. Tune in as we discuss SCG Cincinnati's 20K and 10K along with the most recent MTGO Showcase Challenge and try to answer some of the formats biggest questions. How dare Scam still exist? How did Rhinos get to be 14% of the meta at the 20K? Is Yawgmoth the new top moth? All this and more on this week's Dive Down.
\n\n• Queen City Callbacks
\n• Not Dead After All After All
\n• Sometimes UW Control Can Be Good
Timestamps:
\n3:57 - A Heavy Play surprise
\n8:27 - Housekeeping/this week's episode
\n12:51 - The Dive Down begins: What is Modern in 2024?
\n15:59 - The SCG Cincinnati $20K meta and performance
\n42:34 - The MTGO Showcase Challenge meta and performance
\n56:35 - So what's going on in Modern right now?
\n1:11:55 - The NRG Championship results
\n1:16:43 - A tiny Wind Down
\n1:20:27 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week's episode is not about about Modern or Pioneer! Instead, we fire off our free passes to MTGO's Vintage Cube and figure out how D00mwake became one of the format's trophy leaders. We also dust off our Arena accounts to play a little Timeless. Are we picking up new formats for the show? Only one way to find out!
\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:18 - Heavy Play is also wonderful
\n4:24 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n8:28 - It's Vintage Cube time!
\n54:57 - The best cards in Vintage Cube
\n1:14:00 - Beaudelaire is back, baby
\n1:17:00 - Time for... Timeless
\n1:39:44 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Izzet Phoenix is back on the menu so we're diving back in for the first time in 5 years! Stan is joined by CCR from MTG Grindcast, along with the Pioneer trophy leader & Izzet Phoenix aficionado OafMcNamara to break down the deck in all its controlling glory.
\n\nWe chat in great detail about how to evaluate the cantrips and removal spells in a turbo xerox deck, how it pairs up against other top decks in the metagame, how to maximize its various flex slots, the benefits of Izzet over Grixis, and so much more. We have a couple true Phoenix masters on this episode so the level ups are imminent.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:42 - Heavy Phoenix Play
\n5:15 - Housekeeping/This week's show
\n7:35 - This isn't your Modern's Phoenix
\n12:43 - Phoenix's gameplan and deck construction
\n37:49 - Cantrips. Just cantrips.
\n53:54 - The removal
\n1:00:52 - The flex cards
\n1:13:21 - Matchups
\n1:27:50 - Grixis Phoenix??
\n1:34:10 - Fable and other considerations
\n1:41:18 - Wrapping up and where to find our guests
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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With all the discourse swirling around Dreamhack Atlanta, the Dive Down boys decide to avoid it at all costs and just look at the cold hard facts - which decks did well, which decks did poorly, what did the matchup spreads look like, and where does Pioneer go from here. We also wrap up the show with an extended wind down recapping some of our favorite moments from Magic, podcasting, and pop culture.
\n\nFinally, at long last, UW control is good (in Pioneer). Thanks to Temporary Lockdown lining up just right against the latest builds of Rakdos Midrange and the up and coming Amalia combo, along with a ton of other counterspells and removal cards, control finally found a weekend to dominate the metagame.
\n\nAnd in case you were wondering what kind of movies, music, TV, podcasts, and video games we've been consuming all year, we take a chance to finally recap our favorites from the year as well.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:55 - The Heavy Play fence
\n4:34 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n9:59 - The Break Down: The Atlanta Pioneer RC
\n37:21 - Takeaways from the weekend
\n52:14 - What's up with this meta?
\n1:00:20 - Stan Smells Better
\n1:02:13 - The Wind Down: Your hosts are talking
\n1:03:08 - Our favorite Magic things this year
\n1:07:30 - Best new host of the year
\n1:09:16 - Our favorite episodes of the year
\n1:13:59 - Stan's favorite thing
\n1:14:35 - The card(s) of the year
\n1:16:51 - The card(s) we would revoke from existence
\n1:19:30 - Magic is good
\n1:21:25 - Music we liked this year
\n1:25:32 - Movies we liked this year
\n1:28:38 - TV we liked this year
\n1:33:30 - Podcasts we liked this year
\n1:40:41 - Video games we liked this year
\n1:46:42 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://melee.gg/Tournament/View/28009
\nhttps://twitter.com/karsten_frank/status/1736897130722140214/photo/2
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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RC Atlanta is looming, so this week the team is diving into Pioneer. Dave, Devon, and Shane take a spin through what's happened to the format since the bans early last week. Is Copter rising? Is Mono Green Devotion dead? Where's Phoenix right now? How did Shane like the new hotness Amalia Combo — a deck that Dave hated a couple of weeks ago? Turn in to find out.
\n\nDon't worry if Pioneer isn't your thing, we still spend some time on Modern going through the results of the Legacy European Tour: Barcelona Modern main event. Lots of interesting results to consider after this 700+ person tournament.
\n\nThe Most Popular Deck Doesn't Have Copter
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Timestamps:
\n2:01 - Have you heard the Heavy word?
\n4:19 - This week's show/housekeeping/patreon highlight
\n10:04 - The Break Down begins: The Legacy European Tour Barcelona overall meta
\n23:37 - The Top 64 meta and conversion rates
\n27:24 - The Top 8
\n35:10 - We travel to Arrakis
\n38:04 - The Dive Down begins: prepping for RC Atlanta
\n39:24 - The effects of Pioneer's recent bans
\n57:20 - Lost Caverns of Ixalan's additions (including Amalia combo)
\n1:13:57 - What will happen at the RC, and what d00m is (probably) playing
\n1:24:15 - Predicting the RC meta
\n1:30:02 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
The mad lads did it! Fury... banned. Up the Beanstalk... banned. Karn, the Great Creator... banned. Geological Appraiser... banned. Smuggler's Copter... once banned, now unbanned. We react to the bombshell B&R, consider which decks win and lose from the announcement, and think about what looks good for RC Atlanta.
\n\nOur hands shook with anticipation as we vigorously refreshed the B&R URL on Monday morning. Wizards promised bans in Modern & Pioneer, and they practically told us they were banning Fury, Beans, Karn, and Appraiser, but maybe it was an elaborate bit? Turns out, not a bit! And what's this, Smuggler's Copter finally unbanned? There's so much to talk about, and so soon before the Pioneer RC in Atlanta.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:20 - Hold your non-banned cards with Heavy Play
\n6:28 - This week's episode/housekeeping
\n9:31 - The Break Down begins: We got some bans
\n13:48 - The B&R schedule moving forward
\n18:51 - Pioneer bans overall
\n22:46 - Karn, the Great Creator banned
\n31:10 - Geological Appraiser banned
\n33:49 - Smuggler's Copter UNBANNED!
\n46:56 - Pioneer winners and losers
\n51:10 - Testing those new scents
\n54:35 - The Break Down continues: Fury banned in Modern
\n1:07:56 - Up the Beanstalk banned
\n1:13:45 - Modern winners and losers
\n1:26:53 - Where do we go from here?
\n1:30:39 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/december-4-2023-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
On this week's show, The Dive Down breaks down results from a variety of Pioneer RCs that took place in Asia, Latin America, and Canada. Our eyes pop out at some numbers from the new Discover decks, and we check-in on the final NRG Series open of the year.
\n\nThree regional championships in one weekend, AND an NRG Series open? Yes please! Shane, Devon, and Stan chat about results from the latest batch of high level Pioneer play, and focus on the best and worst performing decks internationally. Discover had some... frightning results. But Phoenix has once again rose from the ashes. Who knew instant speed removal can be good?
\n\nThen we wrap up with a check-in on the Modern Open results from NRG Madison.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n7:02 - Devon talks Heavy Play
\n8:12 - This week's show
\n10:56 - The Break Down begins - Pioneer Regional Championships!
\n13:56 - The Japan/Korea RC
\n34:03 - The South America RC
\n41:16 - Some combined data
\n44:05 - The Canada RC
\n51:12 - What do we know about Pioneer now?
\n1:03:04 - Stan speaks
\n1:05:00 - The NRG Madison Modern 10k
\n1:24:33 - The NRG leaderboard update
\n1:28:00 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nJapan & Korea Regional Championship
\nhttps://mtgmeta.io/tournaments/17934
\nhttps://melee.gg/tournament/view/15433
South America RC
\nhttps://mtgmeta.io/tournaments/17939
\nhttps://melee.gg/Tournament/View/39553
Canada RC
\nhttps://melee.gg/Tournament/View/17096
NRG Madison Modern Open: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15654
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
On this week's show, the ha ha boys take some new cards from Lost Caverns of Ixalan for a spin in Modern and Pioneer. They cast Tishana's Tidebinder, Geological Appraiser, Warden of the Inner Sky, and more!
\n\nHoly moly, LCI has already made quite the splash! In its first week live, it's already led to a huge disruption to Pioneer, along with some interesting upgrades for Modern. Stan and Dave chat about Pioneer Merfolk, playing Modern Rhinos with Tidebinder, and then Devon jumps in to talk about Boros Convoke, Temur Discover, and a few more brews that might surprise you.
\n\nCheck out our Black Friday deal at thedivedown.com/store and use promo code horndogs for 15% off your order!
\n\nThe Dive Down: Stan Loves Merfolk
\nThe Dive Down cont.: Dave of the Inner Sky
\nThe Dive Down cont. cont.: Devon Discovers Something Broken
Timestamps:
\n3:12 - Capitalism time
\n5:50 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n9:31 - The Dive Down begins: New cards, new decks!
\n11:51 - Tishana's Tidebinder in Modern Rhinos
\n23:14 - A few other Modern tidbits
\n25:36 - Amalia combo in Pioneer
\n33:41 - Black Friday deals!
\n36:28 - Boros Convoke with Warden of the Inner Sky
\n46:21 - Simic Merfolk with lots of new cards
\n57:52 - Hollow One is back?
\n1:07:36 - Temur Discover
\n1:23:18 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
This week on The Dive Down we get back to basics. Stan and Shane focus on the three things The Dive Down does best: a) break down a large Modern tournament (SCG Pittsburgh), 2) give some takes about Rhinos, and iii) have a heartfelt conversation about MTG Universes Beyond. Mono White Hammer, Halo Forager, Sheoldred, and Captain America – what do they have in common? They're all here for this week's episode of The Dive Down.
\n\nThe Break Down: SCG Pittsburgh
\nThe Dive Down: New Cards, Old Rhinos
\nThe Wind Down: Beyond Universes Beyond
Timestamps:
\n6:43 - Stan gets Heavy
\n9:57 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n13:20 - The Break Down: The SCGCON Pittsburgh Modern $10k
\n36:15 - The Dive Down: Is Sheoldred Rhinos good?
\n43:18 - Sheoldred
\n57:33 - Halo Forager
\n1:00:36 - Commandeer
\n1:06:43 - Subtlety
\n1:18:29 - Brotherhood's End/Obsidian Charmaw
\n1:24:51 - The Wind Down: Our takes on Marvel in Magic
\n1:37:23 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
It's time for the final spoiler episode of 2023! We think? We go through the full spoiler from The Lost Caverns of Ixalan and talk about the cards we think will have the most impact... that we haven't already spoken about. What lands from this lands set do we actually think could be worth trying? Did they finally fix Smuggler's Copter? How Bitter will our Triumphs be? Have we Lost any Corpses? Did we Cleave any Souls? Not really — but tune in to find out what we think of some of these cards!
\n\n• What Devon Would Do with One Billion Dollars
\n• Shane Has a Favorite Doors Song
\n• Dave Has Lubed the Headset
Timestamps:
\n4:30 - Heavy Play
\n6:03 - This week's show & housekeeping
\n8:55 - The Dive Down begins: MORE CARDS
\n10:52 - Volatile Fault
\n13:57 - Echoing Deeps
\n16:31 - Restless Anchorage
\n18:25 - Dusk Rose Reliquary
\n22:02 - Stalactite Stalker
\n24:45 - Goblin Tomb Raider
\n27:33 - Dreadmaw's Ire
\n29:41 - Tarrian's Soulcleaver
\n33:10 - Subterranean Schooner
\n33:57 - Dauntless Dismantler
\n38:55 - Bitter Triumph
\n41:24 - Fanatical Offering/Fungal Fortitude
\n43:25 - Zoyowa's Justice
\n45:47 - Sentinel of the Nameless City
\n48:39 - Corpses of the Lost
\n52:35 - Bloodletter of Aclazotz
\n58:49 - Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might
\n1:02:23 - Our favorite cards
\n1:11:54 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
For the 375th time this year, we descend into the madness of trying to work out what cards from a new set will make an impact in our formats. It's Lost Caverns of Ixalan time! Spelunk with us as Dave, Shane, and Devon debate the great questions of this set. Which removal card is better — Get Lost or Molten Collapse? Which combo piece unlocks more combinations — The Millennium Calendar or Bartolome del Presidio? Which Merfolk is the most... gilly (?) — Tishana's Tidebender or Cenote Scout? You decide! But listen first before... you decide!
\n\n• Is this Removal Good?
\n• Are These Combo Cards Good?
\n• The Splendid Descended
Timestamps:
\n3:54 - Heavy Play!
\n5:57 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n7:48 - The Break Down begins: Metagame Mentor and the state of Modern
\n17:12 - The standout decks right now
\n24:23 - The Dive Down begins: The Lost Caves of Ixalan!
\n27:18 - Get Lost
\n32:17 - Molten Collapse
\n37:03 - Inti, Seneschal of the Sun
\n41:26 - The Ancient One
\n46:33 - Souls of the Lost
\n49:53 - Spelunking
\n53:14 - Restless Vents
\n55:45 - Enterprising Scallywag
\n58:42 - Glimpse the Core
\n1:02:24 - Helping Hand
\n1:04:42 - Tishana's Tidebinder
\n1:09:11 - Cenote Scout/Nicanzil, Current Conductor
\n1:13:07 - The Millenium Calendar
\n1:17:14 - Market Gnome
\n1:18:51 - Amalia Benavides Aguirre
\n1:20:39 - Bartolome del Presidio
\n1:24:03 - Squirming Emergence
\n1:29:37 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nDr. Frank's Office Hours: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-top-15-modern-decks-for-november-2023
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
Could the right move in Modern be... adding a 4mv black card to Rhinos? Playing a green 2 drop over Murktide in... Murktide? What is even going on right now? We believe there's new stuff to try in Modern even now! Tune in to hear Devon almost take Rhinos + Sheoldred all the way and hear Dave come to the grim realization that casting Divinations is the only thing that makes him feel something in this crazy world. We try out new lists, new ideas, all in a quest to somehow beat both Beans and Scam with the same deck. Can it be done? Not yet... but we think people (and Devon) may be onto something. After we talk what we've been playing in Modern, we dive into descending into some of the first cards from The Lost Caverns of Ixalan.
\n\n• Devon Goes There ft. Sheoldred
\n• Dave Plays Cheap Spells ft. Questing Druid
\n• Shane Descends Into Spoilers
Timestamps:
\n6:03 - Heavy Play time
\n6:59 - On this week's show
\n8:02 - Housekeeping
\n11:33 - The Dive Down begins: d00m makes the finals with Sheoldred Rhinos
\n35:22 - Dave tests Temur Tempo
\n55:33 - Spiderspace's Grixis Tempo deck (briefly)
\n57:53 - The Break Down begins: Spoiler season returns - Lost Caves of Ixalan!
\n58:58 - Craft & The Enigma Jewel
\n1:03:01 - Discover & Geological Appraiser
\n1:06:22 - Descend & The Mycotyrant (also Map Tokens)
\n1:12:30 - Saheeli, the Sun's Brilliance
\n1:14:54 - Spyglass Siren
\n1:16:45 - Jadelight Spelunker
\n1:19:15 - Abuelo, Ancestral Echo
\n1:21:35 - Quintorius Kand
\n1:26:00 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nd00mwake's Rhinos + Sheoldred: https://x.com/d00mwake/status/1716509786089443466?s=20
\nAndrea Mengucci's Temur Murktideless Murktide: https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1716078994670428517?s=20
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
Come back home for some beans, ya hear? We know you've had a lot of legumes lately, but this week The Dive Down has a special chef here to cook for us — Evart Moughon. Evart joins Dave and Shane to talk through his Up the Beanstalk brews including Cascade, Calibrated Blast, and more. Since this was recorded on (Non) Ban Day, we also spend some time getting his reactions to the current state of Modern and what he really thinks about Scam/Grief. Lastly, to close out the show, we dip our toes back into Pioneer and take a look at The NRG Series Showdown in Indianapolis.
\n\n• Meet our new sponsor: Pedialyte!
\n• No changes to all formats but meet our new boosters!
\n• Lean into the bean
\n• NRG Indianapolis Pioneer Showdown
Timestamps:
\n4:15 - Shane's Heavy Play XP
\n6:00 - This week's show/housekeeping
\n9:31 - The Break Down begins - (lack of) bans!
\n43:35 - Talkin' beards
\n46:54 - The Dive Down begins - Cascade Beans
\n56:40 - How this deck works
\n1:10:18 - Fighting the Bean
\n1:20:40 - The Dive Down, cont: The NRG Indy Showdown Pioneer $10k
\n1:28:12 - The top 8
\n1:32:16 - Some Pioneer takes
\n1:36:48 - The NRG standings
\n1:38:40 - Shane's extremely brief RCQ report and wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nHonestly just: https://www.moxfield.com/users/aspiringspike
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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No one fully understands the timing of the upcoming B&R announcement, but public opinion in Modern is swelling around Scam. Is it time to make a change to Modern? We look at the deck's performance, play patterns, and popularity to consider Wizard's options.
\n\nThe Dive Down boys are divided. Some of us like the deck! But it's insanely popular right now, and the Grief play patterns can be pretty annoying. Messing with the ban list seems a bit awkward during the Modern RCQ season, but maybe saving people from the turn one Scam play would be a welcome change?
\n\nThe Dive Down: Luv2Grief
\nThe Dive Down, cont: More of a Dauthi head myself
\nThe Dive Down, still cont: This discussion isn't dead after all
Timestamps:
\n3:58 - Heavy Beeps
\n6:25 - Housekeeping
\n9:42 - Why we are talking about Scam
\n13:13 - How did we get here?
\n21:13 - Scam's current place in the meta
\n39:12 - Our experiences with Scam
\n46:11 - How good is Scam, really?
\n1:00:11 - What's maybe not so good about Scam
\n1:12:07 - How you can beat Scam
\n1:20:08 - Winter scents
\n1:22:50 - Does Scam deserve a ban?
\n1:31:15 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
This week what's on the tin is in the show! We begin to dip back into Pio and cover the recent RCs in the EU and Canada, talk Modern Coffers and Scales, and finally chat a little about new cards from our imminent return to Ixalan.
\n\n• LEC Lille Pioneer
\n• Devon talks RCQs, Dave gets mathy
\n• Cavern of Souls is back... but why?
Timestamps:
\n6:03 - Playing Heavy
\n11:20 - Housekeeping
\n15:36 - The Break Down begins: The Lille Pioneer RC
\n25:56 - The Lille Top 8
\n34:28 - The Face2Face Calgary Pioneer event
\n36:39 - The flat Pioneer metagame
\n42:15 - Getting Hollow
\n45:33 - The Dive Down begins: Devon's Coffers RCQ
\n1:05:42 - Dave played Hardened Scales
\n1:27:51 - Talking some fresh spoilers
\n1:38:15 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nLEC Lille Results: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/16639
\nF2F Tour Championship: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/17095
\nPioneer Winrates: https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/winrates/event_ids:141948,142011,142012
\nModern Hardened Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5888059#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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We finally cast the new card in town and played a couple Up the Beanstalk decks in Modern and... Standard?! Plus some new Modern Prowess builds, and a recap of Stan's latest RCQ.
\n\nStan reached another top 8 finish in a Modern RCQ, and we recap his latest Rhino learning from the tournament. Then he keeps on casting free spells with a crazy Invasion of Alara Standard Cascade deck featuring Up the Beanstalk. Meanwhile, Shane learns to love 5C Bring to Light Beans. While d00mwake admits how much he hates Omnath decks and just played Prowess instead.
\n\nThe Break Down: The joy and pain of another top 8
\nThe Dive Down: The musical fruit
\nThe Dive Down cont.: Playing Prowess without Dave
Timestamps:
\n\nLinks from this week's episode:
\nStan's Rhino Deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5841110#paper
\nd00mwake's Rhino Deck: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/waHIPFpV1UyF6II44-YS7w
\nModern Bring to Light Beans: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5878236#paper
\nStandard Cascade: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5870855#paper
\nGruul Prowess: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/-Ii6mZEKQ0CnfLoATc4q1g
\nJeskai Prowess: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/nMdLGyE670G6s1BFzLLHfQ
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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President of the Narset fan club, George Jabbour, joins Stanislav to go over some tips to prep for the upcoming Modern RCQ season, a brand new sideboard guide tool, and why playing control is such a pain in the @$$.
\n\nStan and George are gearing up for some Modern RCQs this weekend, so they swap notes on how they prepare for competitive tournaments in any format. Plus, George talks about his brand new sideboard tool, flexslot.gg, which he developed himself and is free for anyone to use.
\n\nFinally, we dive into control strategies, which are near and dear to George's heart, to go over why they're so tough to play, how they stack up against today's Modern metagame, and why some people should probably avoid them.
\n\nThe Break Down: How to prepare for a Modern tournament.
\nThe Dive Down: Never playing control again.
Timestamps:
\n1:12 - Stan gets Heavy
\n3:33 - Housekeeping
\n5:55 - George in the Grinder's Studio
\n17:41 - Tournament prep practices
\n48:19 - Sideboarding and flexslot.gg
\n1:00:25 - Special Shane smell appearance
\n1:04:40 - Talking about Control
\n1:14:07 - How to think about playing Control
\n1:21:48 - Evaluating Control finishers
\n1:27:47 - Controls matchups
\n1:36:38 - Promoting George
\n1:38:33 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://linktr.ee/jabjabber
\nhttps://shuddermtg.substack.com/p/how-bad-practice-can-make-you-worse-085
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
Hello Magical Friends! This week it's all about WOE and the new cards that are making an impact in Modern and Pioneer. Turns out that this return to Eldraine might actually be hiding a little bit of power in it after all. First, we dive into Modern. Devon's been running hot with Mono-Black Coffers lately — thanks in no small part to a chase mythic that's a perfect fit for the deck. We also spend some time talking about two cards that look to be new format staples: Agatha's Soul Caludron and Up the Beanstalk. After that we hop over to Pioneer. At first glance, it looks like WOE has given aggro decks in Pioneer a bunch of new tools... but which ones are actually any good? We think you otter tune in to find out how just far this bunnicorn go. If you know what we mean. Actually, we don't know what we mean... just tune in anyway! It's another week on The Dive Down!
\n\n• New Stuff!
\n• Modern & Devon's Success
\n• Pioneer & Aggro Decks
Timestamps:
\n5:00 - Improve your gameplay and your gameday
\n8:10 - Housekeeping
\n10:43 - Modern Starts: Mono-Black Coffers
\n22:05 - Talkin' 'bout Talisman and Beseech the Mirror
\n36:45 - What makes Coffers good?
\n44:33 - Agatha's Soul Cauldron & Up the Beanstalk
\n1:02:04 - Smell Break
\n1:05:19 - Pioneer Starts: Boros Convoke ft. Regal Bunnicorn
\n1:22:19 - Elusive Otter in Izzet Prowess
\n1:32:40 - Devon's other intriguing decks
\n1:43:40 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nD00mwake's latest Mono-Black Coffers List: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5855694#paper
\nClaudioh's Soulful Yawg List: https://twitter.com/claudiohmtg/status/1700788139806081409?s=20
\nDanzant's 75-Card Main 4c Bean List: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5855695#paper
\nD00mwake's Boros Convoke List: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/5L65haImFUuje1toa8N15A
\nWelcomeToTheInternet's Izzet Prowess List: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5849646#paper
\nD00mwake's Boggles List: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/wHNBKOkiOUijxke5Q3KoKA
\nD00mwake's Naya Pia List: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AmkMP2PT80SIk9_P1UxO-g
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
This week we talk about the history of Modern through the lens of the most important — and infamous — sets covering everything from Alara to Zendikar. Actually saying "from Alara to Zendikar" sounds less impressive than I hoped. Forget that. We start all the way back with 8th Edition and we at least mention nearly all the sets currently in Modern (well at least like... 60% of them).
\n\nHow did the sets designed before Modern was created impact the birth of this format? How did the format move from childhood into adolescence? What little detours ended up taking us into this Modern Horizons-driven reality? And most importantly... what were The Rhino Boys doing while all this was happening?
\n\nJoin us for this special episode brought to you by long time sponsor AND top tier Patron — Will from Barrister and Mann. He made the rules and we made the ep. Hope you enjoy it!
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:58 - Heavy Playtime
\n10:00 - Housekeeping
\n14:03 - The story of Modern begins
\n19:22 - Eighth Edition
\n25:40 - Mirrodin
\n30:04 - Ravnica
\n35:20 - Time Spiral
\n43:45 - Alara
\n47:19 - Magic 2010
\n55:36 - Zendikar
\n1:01:10 - Scars of Mirrodin
\n1:04:45 - PT Philly
\n1:08:06 - Innistrad
\n1:11:58 - Return to Ravnica
\n1:16:30 - Modern Masters
\n1:24:45 - Khans of Tarkir
\n1:34:03 - Some later sets, and some takes
\n1:43:20 - What sets did the most good for Modern?
\n1:46:51 - Thanks, Will!
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
The full set is finally spoiled and we're back with the definitive opinions on what's good, what's bad, and what's just neat. We spend a lot of time chatting about some adventuring otters, introduce a once Modern playable cantrip to Pioneer, and head up the beanstalk to draw some cards.
\n\n• Adventure Awaits
\n• Virtue is a Virtue
Timestamps:
\n3:48 - Weighted Play
\n7:07 - Housekeeping
\n8:32 - Moonshaker Cavalry
\n12:38 - Elusive Otter
\n18:51 - Devouring Sugarmaw
\n22:21 - Frolicking Familiar
\n26:31 - Scalding Viper
\n33:18 - Hearth Elemental
\n37:12 - Questing Druid
\n38:55 - Mosswood Dreadknight
\n41:40 - Thunderous Debut
\n44:54 - Regal Bunnicorn
\n48:47 - Royal Treatment
\n50:35 - Quick Study
\n53:27 - Woodland Acolyte
\n58:25 - Soap's on Sale
\n1:01:40 - Sleight of Hand
\n1:05:50 - Up The Beanstalk
\n1:08:58 - Faerie stuff
\n1:14:07 - Collector's Vault/Candy Trail
\n1:16:08 - Virtue of Persistence/Virtue of Courage
\n1:18:47 - Sentinel of Lost Lore
\n1:21:56 - Takes on Wilds of Eldraine
\n1:23:49 - The bests of the set
\n1:33:06 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's that most magical time once again — it's spoiler season! Join Dave, Devon, and Shane as they begin surveying the Wilds of Eldraine. We're looking for new Adventures, causes for Celebration, and to take on new... Roles? Ok that didn't work for long. This week we talk about the cards and concepts from Eldraine that seem like they could make an impact in Modern and Pioneer.
\n\nBut before we get to that, we talk with Devon about his recent RCQ win, Rac Sac, and how it feels to claim lots of goblins in a single day. Join us!
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:36 - The Heaviest Play
\n6:05 - Housekeeping
\n7:59 - Random Europe stories
\n10:36 - d00m finally won an RCQ!
\n18:50 - Wilds of Eldraine is here
\n21:55 - Adventures are back
\n23:10 - Decadent Dragon
\n29:44 - Callous Sellsword
\n33:56 - Kellan, the Fae-Blooded
\n37:36 - Knight of the Helix
\n39:42 - Creature Lands
\n50:18 - Choose your Role
\n53:26 - Monstrous Rage
\n56:01 - Not Dead After All
\n1:00:47 - Bargain
\n1:02:38 - Farsight Ritual
\n1:04:40 - Brave The Wilds
\n1:07:13 - Beseech The Mirror
\n1:09:48 - Celebration (briefly)
\n1:11:14 - Faerie Fencing and Ego Drain
\n1:14:22 - Enchantments matter (maybe)
\n1:15:21 - A Tale For The Ages and Yenna, Redtooth Regent
\n1:18:49 - Tough Cookie
\n1:21:38 - Agatha's Soul Cauldron
\n1:25:07 - Beluna Grandsquall
\n1:27:17 - Syr Ginger, the Meal Ender
\n1:31:02 - The Goose Mother
\n1:32:57 - Ruby, Daring Tracker
\n1:36:14 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week Shane and Stan are joined by returning guest Gabriel Maxson, aka SpiderSpace, to talk about the implications, impact, and potential uses of Preordain in Modern. Before that, we take a good look at the results from the NRD Detroit Modern $10k. How many copies of Preordain made the top 8? I guess we will never know....
\n\nThe Break Down: NRG Detroit Results
\nThe Dive Down: SpiderSpace on Preordain (aka Stan Loves Cantrips)
Timestamps:
\n6:21 - Housekeeping
\n9:40 - The NRG Detroit Modern $10k metagame
\n34:45 - The NRG Top 8
\n44:54 - The NRG leaderboard
\n46:46 - An ocean of aroma
\n48:26 - The Dive Down begins: What's the deal with Preordain?
\n51:31 - Why Preordain was banned in the first place
\n54:28 - How does Preordain compare to what we had before?
\n1:02:54 - Are cantrips even good in Modern?
\n1:07:50 - Preordain's role in particular decks
\n1:32:04 - Did we decide anything here?
\n1:41:10 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Detroit: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15650
\nFind SpiderSpace on Twitter: https://twitter.com/spiderspacemtg?lang=en
\nFind SpiderSpace on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/spiderspace
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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On this week's episode, we kick off with a round of B&R reactions, followed by a recap of the upcoming product roadmap including Modern Horizons 3. Then we take some Pro Tour decks for a spin to see what these so-called pros have been cooking up.
\n\nDevon tells us about his experiences playing with Merfolk, Reanimator, and Samwise, Shane tries out some of the latest Tron builds, and Stan rams some wizards into Rhinos.
\n\nThe Break Down: Preordain Unbanned!
\nThe Break Down (cont.): Modern Horizon 3 is coming!
\nThe Dive Down: New Modern decks fresh from Spain!
Timestamps:
\n2:59 - Some important Patreon stuff
\n3:58 - Very Heavy Play
\n5:48 - Housekeeping
\n7:06 - The Break Down: Tired: Bans; Wired: Unbans
\n19:02 - The unbanning of Preordain
\n26:17 - No changes in Pioneer
\n37:03 - WOTC's GenCon annoucements - MH3, Pioneer Masters, and more!
\n49:28 - Spooky smells
\n52:10 - The Dive Down: Testing Pro Tour lists
\n52:55 - Stan plays CFB's Temur Wizard Rhinos
\n1:07:07 - Devon plays 4C Reanimator, Merfolk, Samwise combo, and more
\n1:22:04 - Shane plays Handshake G Tron
\n1:38:27 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nB&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-7-2023-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\nRhino Wizards: https://www.channelfireball.com/article/Temur-Rhinos-Got-Some-Spicy-New-Tech-from-Lord-of-the-Rings/943a3c89-7c29-4747-a3dd-3c8d581386b6/
\nHandshake Tron: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/315233
\nNaya Scapeshift https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5771029#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week Dave, Shane, and Stan go through the biggest things we learned from the Modern PT last week in Barcelona. It might feel like Rakdos and Tron led the story (and they did) but there's a lot of other things to be learned from what happened. What do we think about The One Ring's win rate? How many decks out of the top 80% of the meta had winning records? How much more can we talk about Rhinos? The answers and what we think they mean might surprise you.
\n\n• Only 10 Decks Had 50%+ Win Rate
\n• The One Ring Might Not Be Broken
\n• But Grief Probably Is
Timestamps:
\n3:52 - Stan reps Heavy Play
\n5:28 - Housekeeping
\n7:33 - Headlines from the Modern Pro Tour
\n9:39 - 1: Rakdos was everywhere (and also won)
\n22:21 - 2: Five decks made up the top 57% of the meta
\n31:30 - 3: Tron is ... good. Right?
\n43:15 - 4: The less-represented decks were Not Good
\n50:02 - 5: Small Sample Size Theater
\n54:34 - 6: Only 10 deck archetypes had a 50+% winrate
\n56:15 - 7: The most popular cards might not have been the best
\n1:04:35 - 8: The top 32 had 13 different decks
\n1:09:12 - 9: The top 8 was stacked
\n1:12:34 - 10: What's next for Modern
\n1:20:48 - Does the PT impact Casual Spikes?
\n1:24:13 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe decks of the Pro Tour: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/16429
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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It's almost PT Barcelona time — and we're super excited to talk through the decks, meta, and how we think everything is going to shape up this weekend. Shane, Dave, and Devon (aka d00mwake) go through all of the changes to Modern since LOTR and what we think that means to Pros and to the rest of us.
\n\nOnce we get through a meta discussion, we decide to put pride on the line and do a fantasy draft of the archetypes — nothing like a little competition on top of competition. Shane goes all in on Scam. Dave grabs late round value. Devon goes for big mana. Who will reign supreme?
\n\n• What the Meta is
\n• How it Got There
\n• Fantasy Drafting the Meta
Timestamps:
\n4:43 - Dave spoils his intro
\n6:42 - Housekeeping
\n10:15 - The Modern Pro Tour is back!
\n17:02 - How the meta has shifted with LOTR
\n24:23 - Last weekend's 4 challenges
\n35:36 - What's shaping Modern's meta
\n41:30 - The One Ring decks
\n58:18 - The Bowmasters decks
\n1:05:07 - The combo... deck?
\n1:07:50 - The other contenders (and non-contenders)
\n1:16:45 - Fragrances for individuals
\n1:19:05 - The Pro Tour fantasy draft!
\n1:35:45 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nTake a look at our draft board: https://www.figma.com/file/uHvwBeISD3a8PXfBvJVgf3/TDD-PT-LOTR-Draft-Board?type=whiteboard&node-id=0%3A1&t=3TczhXHJBK2Lig2q-1
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week the boyz go over the top with the biggest decks that have gotten buffs from the LOTR set. Control and big mana strategies have been strengthened by The One Ring, so we take a trio of the best of them out for a test drive. That's right, it's time for Shane to break out his (nearly) all Russian deck, Mono-Green Tron. But before we get to that Stan professes his love for Mono-Black Coffers and Dave takes a spin with the Twitter hype deck of the week — UB Ring Control by Talisker.
\n\n• Mono-Black Coffers
\n• Dimir Control (from TaliskerMTGO)
\n• Mono-Green Tron
Timestamps:
\n2:05 - Heavy Play!
\n5:35 - Housekeeping
\n8:36 - Stan talks Mono-Black Coffers
\n14:38 - How Coffers works
\n21:30 - Playing Coffers
\n29:58 - Coffers in the Modern meta
\n34:31 - Dave talks Dimir Control
\n44:29 - Playing Dimir Control
\n51:12 - Stan has a box
\n54:40 - Shane talks Green Tron
\n1:01:45 - How Tron is different and better
\n1:15:45 - So let's talk about The One Ring
\n1:25:00 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nMono-Black Coffers by DreamsOfAshiok: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5740288#paper
\nUB Ring Control by Talisker: https://twitter.com/taliskermtgo/status/1679559848994676751?s=46
\nMono-Green Tron by Giona Cai: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-mono-green-tron#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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On this week's show, we continue to track the impact of Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth on the Modern metagame with a detailed recap of tournaments all over the world and world wide web. We touch on the St. Louis NRG Team Trios, the Legacy European Tour Bologna event, and a bunch of Modern challenges.
\n\nWe look at which decks converted the best across tournaments, who's seeing the most consistent results among the format's top archetypes, interesting trends within online data, and how we rank the current Modern staples.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n8:07 - Housekeeping
\n11:58 - Heavy Play x The Dive Down
\n14:00 - The St. Louis NRG Team Trios
\n27:33 - The NRG Top 8 decks
\n32:22 - The Legacy European Tour Bologna Modern Event
\n42:20 - Live Smells of Little Treats
\n47:02 - Legacy European Tour deck performance
\n1:01:18 - The Top 8
\n1:03:34 - Cool Challenge stuff
\n1:10:40 - Takes on Modern decks
\n1:23:32 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Series Team Trios in St. Louis - https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15645
\nLegacy European Tour Modern Bologna - https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/16657
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week we keep talking about THE PRECIOUSSSSs... because no one can stop putting this colorless 4-drop in their Modern decks. Dave and Devon go through at least 6 or 10 decks with the ring while Stan silently looks on and nods approvingly (he has no voice, yet he lent his energy and notes to this episode). Then we do a bit of a deep dive into how to think about playing against The One Ring — and try to create a roadmap for how to think about playing against format-warping cards in general. Finally, we talk quickly about a couple of non-Ring decks you can consider right now.
\n\nRings Decks
\nPlaying Against Rings Decks
\nNon-Rings Decks
Timestamps:
\n1:48 - Housekeeping
\n3:39 - Modern is different, and The One Ring is why
\n5:30 - 4C Ringpile
\n15:14 - Ringos (and other chat)
\n29:10 - Ringanimator
\n37:20 - Dimir Asmoringtacular
\n42:13 - The emerging Ring Meta
\n44:35 - Azorius Ringtrol
\n46:26 - Playing against The One Ring
\n1:05:40 - Decks outside The One Ring
\n1:25:42 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nRhinos ft TOR
\nhttps://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1674247337416310786
\n4C Money Pile
\nhttps://twitter.com/Fencingbrick/status/1674185814429900804/photo/3
\nhttps://twitter.com/CHERRYAXEMAN_OP/status/1674357284795809794
\nhttps://twitter.com/Aspiringspike/status/1675246156874498048
\nPonza ft TOR
\nhttps://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1674838758108037128
\nReanimator ft TOR
\nhttps://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1673860448347619328
\nUW Control ft TOR
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5707375#paper
\nDimir Asmo w/ TOR
\nhttps://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1675667766634860544
\nScam ft. Bowmasters
\nhttps://twitter.com/YungDingoMTG/status/1672503676840058880/photo/1
\nSamwise combo
\nhttps://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1672268892868161536
\nCreativity playing Reprieve
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-2023-06-30#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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We finally return to Modern!! Shane and Devon join forces to break down a bunch of tournaments from last weekend, including the NRG Chicagoland Modern $10k, a huge Japanese paper tournament, and some wild MTGO Challenges. After that, they look more closely at The One Ring (and some other cards) and how it's quickly changing the face of Modern.
\n\nThe Break Down: Mono-G Tron has legs in Chicago
\nThe Break Down, cont: Living End returns to MTGO
\nThe Dive Down: Devon returns to... Modern?
Timestamps:
\n6:36 - Housekeeping
\n8:59 - The Break Down begins: The NRG Chicagoland Modern $10k
\n11:46 - The overall metagame and deck breakdowns
\n26:25 - The NRG Top 8
\n33:55 - The NRG Leaderboard
\n35:52 - The Players Convention Modern Open
\n42:35 - What these two paper tournaments tell us
\n45:30 - The Modern Showcase Challenge
\n1:00:07 - What are we thinking about all these tournaments?
\n1:04:38 - Devon goes on an advertising journey
\n1:08:00 - The Dive Down begins: The One Ring(s)
\n1:27:54 - Delighted Halfling and Orcish Bowmasters
\n1:32:46 - Devon has been playing... Modern?
\n1:38:51 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe NRG Chicagoland Modern $10K: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/14061
\nThe Player's Convention Modern Open: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15431
\nMixed data: https://mtgmeta.io/tournaments/14956?mix=14939
\nThe Showcase Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-showcase-challenge-2023-06-24#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-2023-06-25#paper
\nBoros Hammer: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/306630
\nIzzet... Stuff: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5694033#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Ryan Spain, now the Creative Director of Magic Online at Daybreak Games, returns to The Dive Down to talk about the transition of MTGO from WOTC to Daybreak, goals and hopes for the platform's future, and the realities of managing such monolithic software.
\n\nWe learn about how Magic card frames pose challenges for MTGO's file sizes, how two factor authorization was developed, and why MTGO still doesn't exist on Macs.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:07 - Housekeeping
\n7:40 - Ryan Spain of Daybreak Games joins The Dive Down
\n12:14 - Creative Directing Magic Online
\n14:25 - Transitioning M:O to Daybreak
\n18:35 - How M:O fits into the Magic ecosystem
\n24:40 - Bugfixing and developing M:O
\n31:08 - Future plans for M:O
\n54:18 - The economy of M:O
\n1:05:15 - Engagement with formats on M:O
\n1:08:20 - Where's the Mac version?!
\n1:13:16 - Experimentation on M:O
\n1:18:34 - Some final thoughts
\n1:21:00 - Wrapping up
\n1:22:39 - Secret track
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://www.mtgo.com/news/mtgo-stateofmtgo-10112022
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week Shane welcomes back two friends of the show — Devon O'Donnell (aka d00mwake) & Evart Moughton (aka aspiringspike) — to sub in for Dave and Stan and talk Post-RC Pioneer hype decks and where cards from Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-Earth could find homes in Modern. That's right, two guests, two formats, and a whole lotta takes. Devon loves Evart's dogs. Evart loves The One Ring. Shane registers quiet skepticism about all these hobbits.
\n\n• Devon & Evart's Wild Weekend
\n• Post-RC Pioneer Hype Decks
\n• anything cool going on in modern?
\n• Is The One Ring Busted?
Timestamps:
\n3:45 - Housekeeping
\n5:07 - The Break Down begins: Devon and Evart Do Dallas
\n20:48 - The hype decks of Pioneer post-RC
\n43:11 - Anything cool going on in Modern?
\n47:00 - LOTR: Tales of Middle-Earth spoilers continue
\n48:20 - Is The One Ring busted?
\n51:55 - Stern Scolding
\n55:26 - Aragorn, the Uniter
\n56:53 - Frodo, Determined Hero
\n1:00:14 - Orcish Bowmasters
\n1:02:30 - Boromir, Warden of the Tower
\n1:05:16 - Flowering of the White Tree
\n1:08:07 - Flame of Anor
\n1:11:29 - Samwise Gamgee
\n1:16:05 - Rosie Cotton of South Lane
\n1:18:40 - Elven Farsight
\n1:22:20 - This is not Modern Horizons 3
\n1:24:28 - Oliphaunt
\n1:28:50 - What Evart and Devon are up to
\n1:34:54 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth spoilers are in full swing, so we dive into a bunch of cards that could see play in existing Modern decks or even create some new ones. Plus we recap the results of the latest Pioneer Regional Championship in Dallas.
\n\nWe attempt to Press the Enemy and get a Stern Scolding. But we Forge Anew with some Orcish Bowmasters and a determined Frodo in the legendary lands of Rivendell. After that we encounter the denizens of Khazad-dûm and Moira. Then Stan cracks a pack.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:29 - Housekeeping
\n8:45 - LOTR Spoilers... again!
\n14:05 - Stern Scolding
\n20:36 - Cast Into the Fire
\n23:48 - Press the Enemy
\n30:45 - Forge Anew
\n37:10 - Orcish Bowmasters
\n43:15 - The Legendary Lands
\n54:32 - Frodo, Determined Hero
\n57:18 - Frodo Baggins
\n1:00:01 - Pippin, Guard of the Citadel
\n1:03:35 - Lobelia, Sackville-Baggins
\n1:05:13 - Troll of Khazad-dûm
\n1:07:48 - Moira Marauder
\n1:11:11 - Summertime Shaving
\n1:14:25 - Stan cracks a pack
\n1:18:28 - Dreamhack Dallas RC Break Down
\n1:21:18 - The RC Metagame
\n1:34:43 - Conversion rates
\n1:37:35 - The Top 8
\n1:42:58 - Pioneer takeaways
\n1:48:08 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week on The Dive Down we go deep on that deck that people can't stop talking about — Boros Convoke in Pioneer. Dave and Devon talk about the core strategy of the deck, the flex cards and why people use them, how to mull, what to keep, and matchups — the good, the bad, and the middle. Get ready for Devon to explain how his perceptions about some matchups have changed since he started playing the deck and for Dave to have an argument with ChatGPT about math. Finally, we talk about what's on Devon's mind as he gets ready for Dreamhack Dallas. It's all in a week on The Dive Down!
\n\n• Risky Keeps?
\n• ChatGPT Can't Do Multivariate Probabilities
\n• Dreamhack Dallas via Valencia
Timestamps:
\n3:03 - Housekeeping
\n5:48 - What's the deal with Boros Convoke?
\n10:22 - The cards of Convoke
\n46:53 - Playing Convoke
\n59:36 - Matchups and sideboard options
\n1:16:15 - The Valencia LMS Pioneer event meta
\n1:35:47 - Some final takes on Convoke
\n1:39:13 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nBoros Convoke Lists:
\nD00m’s current list: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxLkfM-WAAEB13p?format=jpg&name=medium
\nFrank Karsten's article: https://strategy.channelfireball.com/cfb-pro-content/convoke-chaos-unleash-the-power-of-pioneers-hottest-new-deck-mtg-deep-dive/
\nSodek’s list + guide: https://mystical-teachings.com/boros-convoke-primer/
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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Stan and Shane combine forces to discuss the NRG Pioneer $10K in Minneapolis, and then give some hot takes about the changes to the B&R cadence and Standard's new 3-year rotation. What latest tech from March of the Machine (and it's Aftermath?) had an impact in Pioneer? And what do WOTC's changes mean for the future of our formats? Listen and find out!
\n\nThe Break Down: Hyrule via Knutsford
\nThe Break Down, cont: An 160 All-Foil Control Mirror
\nThe Dive Down: Strong Feelings About B&Rs
Timestamps:
\n6:40 - Housekeeping
\n9:14 - The NRG Minneapolis/St. Paul Pioneer $10K
\n12:40 - The overall metagame and performances
\n30:50 - Thoughts on the meta
\n34:51 - The Top 8
\n40:24 - Stanislav played Izzet Creativity
\n51:25 - Hot takes on WOTC's new B&R strategy
\n1:07:23 - Hot takes on Standard moving to a 3-year rotation
\n1:11:44 - Stan cracks a pack
\n1:15:34 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe NRG Minneapolis Pioneer $10K: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/14059
\nRevitalizing Standard: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/revitalizing-standard
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week d00mwake joins Shane and Dave to go through a quick tour of the weirdness that happened in Modern and Pioneer MTG this week. We dive deep into the wild Modern Challenge on 5/13, a new + interesting deck d00mwake has been playing in Pioneer, and the somewhat surprising places new cards have appeared in the last few weeks. Dave declares his love for Sultai Shadow. Shane wonders if Ob Nixilis is really a win more. Devon takes us through an interesting new Boros Tokens list he's been working on.
\n\n• Adventures in Pioneering
\n• Surprising Modern Tricks
\n• Yargle's Vengeance
Timestamps:
\n5:25 - Housekeeping
\n8:15 - Devon's adventures in Pioneer
\n8:40 - Boros Tokens
\n16:48 - Rakdos Sacrifice with Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin
\n27:12 - Coppercoat Vanguard
\n33:45 - Some final Pioneer highlights
\n40:15 - Saturday's Modern Challenge highlights
\n40:51 - Sultai Traverse Shadow
\n51:07 - Hardened Scales makes a return!
\n55:14 - Weird Creativity tech
\n57:24 - Weird Rakdos Scam tech
\n1:02:03 - 4-Color Omnath with Nissa
\n1:04:05 - Some more weird Modern tech
\n1:11:34 - Sunday's Modern Challenge highlights
\n1:14:42 - Yargle's Vengeance
\n1:17:13 - Even more weird Modern tech
\n1:21:34 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\n\nSaturday 5/13 Modern Challenge
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-2023-05-13#paper
Modern Humans w/ Coppercoat Vanguard
\njenesaisquoi, https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5612522#paper
\nParrotlet, https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5610799#paper
Sunday 5/14 Modern Challenge
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-2023-05-14#paper
Coppercoat Vanguard in Pioneer
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5616010#paper
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5616016#paper
Rakdos Sacrifice w/ Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin
\nChiChiChi, https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5612490#paper
\nShadowz2005, https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5612482#paper
D00mwake's Boros Tokens
\nhttps://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1655674173904003106?s=20
Mason Clarke's NeoSoulflayerTraxa
\nhttps://twitter.com/masoneclark/status/1657193505695887360?s=20
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week it's time for... you guessed it... more card talk on The Dive Down. With Dave out, Stan and Shane do double duty with a look at the cards that stand tall in the Aftermath of MOM and ask the question: how many bulk rares do you have to sacrifice to despark a planeswalker? After that we take a quick trip to Middle Earth to talk about some tempting new information. Listen. Now. You've been tempted.
\n\n• Some Aftermath
\n• Some Rings
\n• A Pack is Cracked!
Timestamps:
\n4:55 - Housekeeping
\n7:24 - The Dive Down begins: March of the Machine: Aftermath
\n13:02 - Coppercoat Vanguard
\n15:57 - Vesuvan Drifter
\n20:12 - Ayara's Oathsworn
\n24:32 - Nissa, Resurgent Animist
\n27:48 - Tranquil Frillback
\n30:47 - Jirina, Dauntless General
\n32:41 - Calix, Guided by Fate
\n35:58 - Narset, Enlightened Exile
\n40:02 - Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin
\n42:54 - Pia Nalaar, Consul of Revival
\n45:08 - Sarkhan, Soul Aflame
\n49:07 - Samut, Vizier of Naktamun
\n51:52 - Some final thoughts on Aftermath
\n53:32 - LOTR spoilers continue
\n54:30 - The Ring Tempts You
\n1:00:04 - Call of the Ring
\n1:01:54 - Delighted Halfling
\n1:08:10 - The Wind Down! Crack-a-pack!
\n1:15:01 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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We kick off the show with a chat about a ton of Modern data that's been collected since the Yorion ban, and review matchups for the top decks in the format.
\n\nThen we dive into four new Pioneer decks d00mwake helped put together to keep experimenting with cards from March of the Machine. Stan takes another Elves deck through the grinder, but Gruul with dinosaurs? Devon then plays his own Gruul dino deck, but with Reckless Stormseekrs and Esika's Chariots. Dave draws a bunch of cards with blue convoke spells. And we make as many tokens as possible in Naya.
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern data post Yorion ban!
\nThe Dive Down: Pioneer deckfest featuring more March of the Machine!
Timestamps:
\n3:35 - Housekeeping
\n6:26 - Modern Meta Data Since the Yorion Ban
\n8:05 - Prevalence Data
\n15:25 - Win Percentages
\n18:05 - Matchup Percentages
\n26:05 - Barrister and Mann Welcome Spring
\n32:19 - Pioneer Deckfest Begins!
\n33:00 - Spirits, Rogues, etc.
\n38:50 - Gruul Elves w/ Imperiosaur
\n47:44 - Gruul "No Boats" w/ Imperiosaur
\n51:29 - Is Pioneer Becoming a Faster Format?
\n58:05 - Izzet Pyromancer
\n1:10:10 - Rakdos Ghalta
\n1:13:34 - Naya Tokens
\n1:16:58 - Wrapping Up With an Iron Bru
Links from this week's episode:
\nAnael Yahi's Modern data extravaganza: https://twitter.com/YahiAnael/status/1650601983697362956?s=20
\nGruul Dino Elves (http://www.streamdecker.com/deck/gPcr1x_SO ),
\nGruul Dino no elves (http://www.streamdecker.com/deck/KMSs8DSJ9 ),
\nIzzet Pyro (http://www.streamdecker.com/deck/DAjXwnxt2 )
\nNaya Tokens (http://www.streamdecker.com/deck/zIofmKPnZ )
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
It's Sleeve Believe Heave week for new cards from March of the Machine. We play Modern and Pioneer with cards like Ancient Imperiosaur, Rona, Herald of Invasion, Fairie Mastermind, and more!
\n\nThe Break Down: Four Modern decks!
\nThe Dive Down: Some Pioneer decks too!
Timestamps:
\n4:45 - Sleeve/Believe/Heave: MOM in Modern
\n7:36 - Stan plays Kuldotha Aggro
\n20:50 - Dave plays Jeskai Prowess
\n34:24 - Stan plays Baral & Kari Zev
\n44:33 - Dave plays Jund Indomitable Creativity
\n53:13 - Adagio and Presto
\n57:07 - Sleeve/Believe/Heave: MOM in Pioneer
\n58:51 - Shane plays Sultai Rona Combo
\n1:21:35 - Dave plays Dimir Rogues
\n1:34:31 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\n\nModern
\nKuldotha Aggro: httdps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5569038#paper
\nUR Prowess/YungDingo: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/fOnU-Zwd-
\nBaral & Kari Zev: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5565460#paper
\nJund Creativity: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5569004#paper
Pioneer
\nSultai Rona Tandy Deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5570816#paper
\nDimir Rogues: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5566886#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week we get to look at the first paper Modern tournament featuring the new cards of March of Machines - the $20K Modern RCQ that took place in Richmond this past weekend. We go over the metagame, the performances, and the top 12 decks! Following that, d00mwake is back to talk to us about a bunch of brews he has for Pioneer, featuring some hot tech from MOM. Is Jeskai Ascendancy back? Is Invasion of Tarkir going to change Pioneer? We don't actually know yet, but we sure can hope!
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern Keeps Being Modern
\nThe Dive Down: Devon Brings the Brews
\nThe Dive Down, cont: You'll Never Believe the Most Exciting Deck
Timestamps:
\n4:29 - Housekeeping
\n8:53 - The Break Down: The SCG Richmond $20K Modern RCQ
\n9:37 - The overall metagame
\n27:41 - The top 12
\n43:08 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n48:18 - Taxes... stink?
\n51:40 - The Dive Down: d00m brews in Pioneer
\n54:02 - 4C Ascendancy
\n59:39 - Rona Ascendancy
\n1:05:03 - Sultai Rona
\n1:09:24 - Gruul Dragons
\n1:17:02 - 4C Dragons
\n1:22:33 - Gruul Fling
\n1:27:36 - Mono-Green Scales
\n1:32:58 - Sorin + Ghalta
\n1:40:05 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Richmond $20K: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/14572
\n4C Ascendancy: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5556305#paper
\nRona Ascendancy: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5556308#paper
\nSultai Rona Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5556313#paper
\nGruul Dragons: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5556306#paper
\n4c Dragons: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5556315#paper
\nGruul Fling: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5556307#paper
\nMono-G Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5556309#paper
\nSorin & Ghalta: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5556312#paper
Find d00mwake on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/d00mwake
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The boys are back for some more spicy takes and overall expectations for March of the Machine. We chat about some new instant speed draw spells, some potential combo shenanigans, and our called shots on the set's potential sleeper hits. We pay our respects to Archangel Espeth, theorycraft what type of Izzet spells deck can play the new convoke draw spells, and recap some of the crazy new combo omens via Omen Hawker.
\n\nThe Break Down: Dave is back to tell us we did a good job
\nThe Dive Down: Shane and Stan continue to do a good job
Timestamps:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
There's a new card in town, and we're here to chat about Battles (including the band) during our first look at spoilers from March of the Machine, a Magic set that comes out in April...
\n\nWe kick with a chat about Battles in particular, and the type of questions we're asking before we trying playing these brand new cards in decks. Then we look at some new additions including Baral & Kari Zev, Halo Forager, The Sword of Once and Future, Elesh Norn, and more!
\n\nTimestamps:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
Devon O'Donnell returns to help us break down the results of this weekend's NRG Chicago Modern and Pioneer trials. Then chat about d00mwake's own upcoming Pure Modern tournament and what to play in a tournament without Modern Horizon cards.
\n\nThe Break Down: NRG Mundelein: More Trials Than Salem
\nThe Dive Down: Elevator Constellation Triggers
\nThe Dive Down, cont: The Purest of Modern Tournaments
Timestamps:
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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Sure it's 3 months away, but if that doesn't stop WOTC from sharing The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth spoilers, what should stop us from talking about the summer's straight to Modern set? We chat about Frodo, Samwise, Gollum and the One Ring, and somehow convince ourselves that maybe these cards can work in a deck with other lands and spells..?
\n\nThen we dust off our old Arena accounts to play some new Innistrad cards. We break down which decks get the biggest boost from the latest update, bringing Explorer one step closer to Pioneer. And take count of which decks still have a way to go due to critical, missing pieces.
\n\nThe Break Down: One supplemental set to rule them all and in the darkness bind them
\nThe Dive Down: Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered but not forgotten
Timestamps:
\n7:20 - Housekeeping
\n8:50 - Do we want Hobbits to shake up Modern?
\n25:19 - How can we evaluate cards in the post-MH2 era?
\n31:50 - The One Ring
\n43:18 - Frodo, Sauron's Bane and Gollum, Patient Plotter
\n46:05 - Samwise, the Stouthearted
\n49:21 - Reprieve
\n53:50 - Mount Doom
\n57:03 - Live smelling experiences
\n1:00:23 - Shadows Over Innistrad Remastered is here!
\n1:13:53 - Are we back on Arena?
\n1:18:25 - What does Shadows Remastered do for Explorer?
\n1:21:00 - The Pioneer decks you can play on Arena now
\n1:25:30 - Golden Packs are sweet
\n1:27:37 - Wrapping up
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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Our international relations split today's show into two sections, and a new episode tradition was born. Join us for a multi-format look at some our favorite tribes, a new take on Calibrated Blast, and the latest version of Pioneer Sac. Listen in as Stan and Dave discuss what they've been up to in Modern and Pioneer over the last couple of weeks. Hint: it's in the title. After that Shane and Devon go deep on the new Pioneer Sac decklists featuring Tyvar. It's like two shows in one — enjoy the Deckfest 1!
\n\n• Stan Loves Pioneer Now!
\n• Dave Gets Weird in Modern!
\n• Shane & Devon Break Down Tyvar Sac in Pioneer!
Timestamps:
\n3:52 - Housekeeping
\n7:03 - Dave and Stan played some MTG
\n8:22 - Stan played... Pioneer Elves???
\n21:00 - Stan also played... Pioneer Spirits!
\n33:24 - Dave played Mardu Calibrated Blast
\n46:35 - Dave also played Mono-White Humans... in Modern?!
\n57:29 - Coming home to some Barrister & Mann
\n1:00:40 - Shane and Devon talk Pioneer Golgari Sacrifice
\n1:08:36 - Tyvar in Golgari Sacrifice
\n1:13:06 - Some mana dorks
\n1:14:52 - The sac engines
\n1:27:08 - The fodder makers
\n1:34:05 - The Collected Company
\n1:39:20 - The mana
\n1:43:20 - The sideboard
\n1:44:45 - So how do you play this deck?
\n1:54:50 - Matchups and sideboarding
\n2:01:00 - Why play this deck?
\n2:05:31 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\n• Pioneer Elves by XBoxGreg: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5391892#paper
\n• Pioneer Azorius Spirits by ScouterTF2: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5471488#paper
\n• Modern Cottage Blast by Aspiringspike: https://twitter.com/Aspiringspike/status/1631397428585693188?s=20
\n• Modern Mono-White Humans by HanktheObese: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5471479#paper
\n• Pioneer Golgari Sac by d00mwake: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5460137#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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Fresh off the heels of his RCQ win with Amulet Titan, our Twitter friend Ryan Donkin joins us to break down the power of Mycosynth Garden, pour one out for Ad Nauseum, and how to count all the triggers in Glimpse of Tomorrow decks.
\n\n• More Ways to Win on Turn 2
\n• Glimpse the Ad Nauseum and Other Unthinkable Brews
\n• Tinker, Brewer, Pilot, Consumer
Timestamps:
\n3:33 - Housekeeping (including notes about a TDD Discord Modern Tournament)
\n6:06 - Getting Into Ryan's Brain: A Peek Inside the Grinder's Studio
\n11:20 - Putting Cards Together in Ways That Win
\n11:40 - Amulet Titan
\n22:52 - Ad Nauseum
\n32:05 - Ad Break: Barrister & Mann
\n35:15 - The Spark that Lit a Love of Combo
\n41:04 - The Secret Third Cascade: Glimpse
\n53:14 - When to Play Glimpse
\n56:41 - What Kind of Main Are You?
\n1:03:27 - Cards Ryan is Brewing With Now
\n1:06:10 - What Ryan is Trying in Pioneer: Lotus Field + More
\n1:09:49 - Stan Cracks a Pack: Peak Consumer Main Content
\n1:12:45 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://twitter.com/GR_DONKIN
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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Well, here it is. The week you've all been waiting for — the Rhino Boyz finally get back their Rhino format. It's time for a check in on what's going on in Modern since Phyrexia: All Will Be One launched. We take a look at the Top 32 metas of all the MTGO Challenges from 2/10 – 2/24 and throw in some data on the Manatraders February final to boot. Oh yeah — and Stanislav finally rejoins the pod from his new home in the UK. Hear what we sound like during a daytime recording (for the first time ever) and also hear what we sound like in British accents (hopefully for the last time ever). What surprising decks are surging in Modern once again? What cards from ONE have made any impact? What terrible UK slang with each of us try to pepper our speech with? Find out on this week's ep!
\n\n• Too Many English Accents
\n• February Modern Challenge(s) Roundup
\n• We Catch Up and Crack a Pack
Timestamps:
\n6:15 - Housekeeping
\n11:48 - The Break Down: What's going on in Modern?
\n44:53 - The Manatraders Modern top8 and what are we learning?
\n52:40 - Smuggling some bergamot
\n55:35 - Shane plays some Devoted Druid with Tyvar
\n1:09:30 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n1:12:15 - Stan is back, and opens a pack!
\n1:21:40 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nDevoted Druid with Tyvar by Bean17h: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5431806#paper
\nDevoted Druid with Tyvar by MickeyPlaysMagic: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5422748#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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With Shane and Stan both gone this week, Dave called in returning guest host Devon O'Donnell, aka d00mwake, to talk about his hot Pro Tour Phyrexia takes. Is d00m buying what Dave's selling? That's to be determined. Buying or not, Dave and Devon first go over the expected and unexpected decks from the return of the Pro Tour, then chat about some of the early previews from March of the Machines.
\n\nThe Break Down: The Metagame Everyone Saw Coming
\nThe Dive Down: A Winner No One Saw Coming
\nThe Wind Down: The Team-Ups No One Knew They Needed
Timestamps:
\n4:05 - Housekeeping
\n6:30 - Pro Tour Phyrexia - Is Devon buying what Dave's selling?
\n12:50 - Take 1: The meta was what we expected
\n18:07 - Take 2: The top of the meta didn't perform well
\n25:24 - Take 3: We should be playing the less popular decks
\n37:30 - Take 4: The rogues broke the format a bit
\n54:15 - Shane's secretly here
\n59:28 - Take 5: More metagame calls paid off
\n1:02:50 - Take 6: Fable of the Mirror Breaker is the best card in the format
\n1:07:50 - Take 7: The meta is unlikely to change
\n1:15:15 - Take 8: The top 8 was impressive and our predictions stunk
\n1:19:50 - March of the Machines early previews!
\n1:34:02 - Where to find d00mwake and wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe PT decks: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/14111
\nMarch of the Machines spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/mom
\nDevon's Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/d00mwake
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
This week Dave and Shane invite Devon O'Donnell (aka d00mwake) over to help us prepare for the return of the Pro Tour! We go deep on Pioneer as we take a look at the recent meta and last weekend's MTGO Challenges (or whatever they're called), go over where established decks are picking up new tech from ONE, and lastly run through a bunch of sleeper decks and their potential for a PT break through — one deck d00mwake likes may even surprise you. We likely don't talk about Atraxa enough. But we do talk about the angel... some? Tune in for all this and to see what each of us chose as a top 4 for the tournament.
\n\n• As Much Pioneer as You Could Ever Want
\n• Atraxa Unifies the Rogue Meta
\n• One Deck That Oozes Potential
Timestamps:
\n5:00 - Housekeeping
\n7:57 - The Pioneer Pro Tour
\n15:10 - The current Pioneer meta
\n27:45 - What can happen at the Pioneer PT?
\n30:02 - The Saturday Pioneer Challenge
\n43:48 - Saturday's cool decks
\n57:09 - Sunday's Pioneer Showcase Challenge
\n1:10:05 - Sunday's cool decks
\n1:20:28 - What do we know about Pioneer?
\n1:24:58 - Some sleeper decks of the new Pioneer
\n1:42:35 - Calling our top 4 decks of the Pro Tour
\n1:44:50 - Where to find d00mwake
Links from this week's episode:
\nDevon's Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/d00mwake
\nFrank Karsten's Metagame Mentor: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-10-surprising-pioneer-decks-that-can-win-pro-tour-phyrexia
\n2/11 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-2023-02-11#paper
\n2/12 Pioneer Showcase: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-showcase-challenge-2023-02-12#paper
\nd00mwake's Video on New ONE Decks for Pioneer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qLghY2tsI4
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week Shane and Dave dive into results from the first weekend of Magic after ONE. It looks like the set has had more impact on Modern and Pioneer than we thought possible with upgrades coming to several decks and even a couple of new brews emerging. Are THE Mycosynth Gardens ready for Prime Time? Is Venerated Rotpriest the card that will make Infect ripe again? Is Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler the real deal in Druid... or... anywhere else? Shane and Dave go through the results from the Modern $5k and $10ks from SCGCON Indy and look at some speculative brews for Pioneer from Frank Karsten's most recent Metagame Mentor.
\n\n• The Mycosynth Gardens Are So Nice This Time of Year
\n• Rotpriest or Rockpriest?
\n• Tyvar, Jubilant Brewer
Timestamps:
\n4:55 - Housekeeping
\n8:40 - The SCGCon Indy Friday Modern $5k RCQ
\n23:44 - The SCGCon Indy Sunday Modern $10k RCQ
\n51:16 - New Modern oddities and ephemera
\n1:02:09 - Frank Karsten's Pioneer potentials in ONE
\n1:12:37 - New Pioneer oddities and ephemera
\n1:14:58 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nSCGCon Indy Friday modern 5k RCQ: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/13258
\nSCGCon Indy Sunday Modern 10k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/13259
\nModern Devoted Druid Combo in 2023: https://themanabase.com/modern-devoted-druid-combo-in-2023/
\nFrank Karsten's Metagame Mentor: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-10-surprising-pioneer-decks-that-can-win-pro-tour-phyrexia
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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Here it is — Part 2 of our tour through Phyrexia: All Will Be One. But this week we've called in some reinforcements in the form of Sky Mason, aka DarthJacen on Playing Pioneer, Twitch, and Twitter. While Shane engages in another flight of fancy about a Green 7 drop and Dave speculates about edicts or bolts or something, Sky helps us get through cards that have real potential in Pioneer and Modern from this second half of the set. And then, at the end, as a treat, we all go over our top 5(-ish) cards from the set.
\n\n• It's Always 51 in Providence
\n• Napping in Skrelv's Hive
\n• [Everyone Had Almost the Same] Top 5 Cards
Timestamps:
\n3:35 - Housekeeping
\n6:38 - Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines
\n9:21 - The Eternal Wanderer
\n13:29 - Phyrexian Vindicator
\n16:21 - Skrelv's Hive
\n20:07 - Distorted Curiosity/Bring the Ending
\n25:14 - Prologue to Phyresis
\n28:37 - Mindsplice Apparatus
\n36:45 - Annihilating Glare
\n40:50 - Archfiend of the Dross
\n42:51 - Phrexian Obliterator
\n45:03 - Sheoldred's Edict
\n48:18 - Rebel Salvo
\n51:08 - Furnace Punisher
\n52:47 - All Will Be One
\n54:15 - Cankerbloom
\n55:36 - Nissa, Ascended Animist
\n1:00:24 - Migloz, Maze Crusher
\n1:05:50 - DarthJacen's top cards
\n1:21:35 - Shane's top cards
\n1:27:30 - Dave's top cards
\n1:31:35 - Where to find Darthjacen online
Links from this week's episode:
\nCheck out Sky on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/darthjacen) and Playing Pioneer (https://playingmtg.com/pioneer/)
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week Shane and Dave dive into the weirdness that is Phyrexia: All Will Be One. What card will be our number one for hype this spoiler season? What card that we think will see very little play counters spells with mv one? What Phyrexian Mite is a 1/1 for 1 with Toxic 1 and is number one in our hearts? How many more ones can I fit in this description? At least one. At least one. Join us this week as we go through the cards we love, the cards we hate, and the cards we're just plain Perplexia'd by.
\n\n• These Cenobites Are Making Me Thirsty
\n• Skrelv Wars, Nothing But Skrelv Wars
\n• So I Dub Thee Unforgiving
Timestamps:
\n3:43 - Housekeeping
\n6:07 - All Will Be One
\n7:38 - The mechanics of ONE
\n17:13 - The spoilers begin! Allied Fast lands
\n20:04 - The Mycosynth Gardens
\n23:58 - Minor Misstep
\n29:45 - Venerated Rotpriest
\n37:27 - Gleeful Demolition
\n40:36 - Skrelv, Defector Mite
\n43:21 - Vat of Rebirth
\n47:29 - Kemba, Kha Enduring
\n51:29 - Ossification/Soulless Jailer
\n54:14 - The Filigree Sylex
\n56:18 - Blade of Shared Souls/Sword of Forge and Frontier
\n1:00:50 - Glissa Sunslayer/Malcator, Purity Overseer
\n1:03:42 - Mirran Safehouse
\n1:05:32 - Tyvar, Jubilant Brawler
\n1:09:07 - Unctus, Grand Metatect
\n1:10:54 - Ichormoon Gauntlet
\n1:13:54 - Jace, the Perfected Mind
\n1:16:24 - Nahiri, the Unforgiving
\n1:21:16 - Mondrak, Glory Dominus
\n1:24:06 - Capricious Hellraiser
\n1:27:04 - Tyvar's Stand
\n1:30:00 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nScryfall: https://scryfall.com/sets/one?as=grid&order=spoiled
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week Dave and Shane work on becoming Masters of their Domain with a quick dive into a deck that has been a bit of surprise in modern lately — Modern Domain Zoo. We debate which two drops are the best in this deck, wonder why this deck even has one drops, and finally, most domainedly, talk about killing opponents from the low teens with gameplans that include double Tribal Flames. But before all that, we talk about the exciting end of the 2022 NRG Championship Series, break down the decks from Modern and Pioneer, and marvel about the tiny tech choices people can make in a field of 16 players.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:13 - Housekeeping
\n6:24 - The Break Down: The NRG Championship
\n8:58 - The Modern meta & decklists
\n28:24 - The Pioneer meta & decklists
\n41:53 - The tournament results
\n47:55 - Spring is here
\n50:42 - The Dive Down: Masters of our Domain (Zoo)
\n52:37 - What Domain is all about
\n54:55 - The Domain creatures
\n1:05:48 - The Domain spells
\n1:14:06 - The manabase and mana strategy
\n1:21:14 - Some thoughts about Domain Zoo
\n1:26:08 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Champs Decklists:
\nhttps://articles.nerdragegaming.com/decklists-archive/modern-2022-nrg-championship-january-14-15-2023/
\nhttps://articles.nerdragegaming.com/decklists-archive/pioneer-2022-nrg-championship-january-14-15-2023/
\nSample Domain Zoo List: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5339959#paper
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Dave and Shane kickoff 2023 in Magic in our first Stan-less episode of his hiatus. We take a quick tour around the formats we love: we first spend time on a tour of Modern via recent MTGO events, then through Pioneer via Frank Karsten's most recent assessment of the combined RC meta. But first we talk about this weekend's NRG Championship Series Finals. And then before that we also cry some because we miss Stan.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:43 - Housekeeping
\n11:50 - The Dive Down begins - the NRG Championship preview
\n23:05 - The current state of Modern
\n48:19 - The current state of Pioneer
\n1:04:20 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n1:20:05 - What we aren't talking about
\n1:22:30 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Championship Series Twitch Channel: https://www.twitch.tv/nrgseries
\n2022 NRG Series Championship Structure: https://articles.nerdragegaming.com/2022-nrg-series-championship-structure/
\nManaTraders Modern $30k: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/2022-manatraders-series-30-000-invitational#paper
\nMTGO Modern Super Qualifier: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-super-qualifier-2022-12-26#paper
\nFrank Karsten's Pioneer RC Metagame Mentor: https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-top-15-pioneer-decks-from-regional-championships
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Surprise! We got one more episode out of Stan before he heads off to the UK — and it's a good one. It's time for our annual chat about our 2023 goals as Magic players, podcasters, friends, and frenemies. We touch on some ideas we have for expanding the show, expanding our planewalking skills, and on how we all feel like we need to fight to stay engaged and curious in life as old age creeps in. No big deal.
\n\nBut before all that, we're excited to bring you a fun discussion we had with Randy Chiang, CEO and Founder of [Heavy Play](heavyplay.com) — a brand new, player-centric take on deck boxes, playmats, and sleeves. We talk with Randy about what inspired him to chase his dream to design this line of accessories that aim to help make gameday easier for Magic players of all kinds. Heavy Play is currently working on a Kickstarter launch campaign — go check it out before it closes on January 15th!
\n\nThe Break Down: The Last Playmat You'll Ever Need
\nThe Dive Down: 2023 Goals
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:08 - Housekeeping
\n4:06 - Talking with Randy from Heavy Play
\n41:10 - Cheshire Stan
\n43:50 - Some 2023 goals
\n47:01 - Show goals
\n55:59 - Magic goals
\n1:17:33 - Personal goals
\n1:23:53 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nHeavy Play Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/heavyplay/heavy-play-equipmag-system-and-curv-sleeves
\nHeavy Play website: http://heavyplay.com
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For our final episode of the year, we're kicking off with a huge announcement of things to come in 2023. Then we dive into the hottest cards and decks of the year.
\n\nYes it's true, Stan is fleeing the country. But we're not letting him leave the podcast just yet. Change is coming, sure, but the show will go on as our three friends figure out how to manage the unique challenge of timezone management.
\n\nThen we talk about the hottest cards and decks from the year, the ones that took us by surprise, and the ones we turned to whenever we had to win some tournament cash.
\n\nThanks for another amazing year at The Dive Down. We couldn't do it without our wonderful friends and fans who continue to support us. We have more plans for next year and we can't wait to see what's to come in 2023.
\n\nThe Break Down: The Mancunian Candidate
\nThe 2022 Divey Awards: The Cards We Loved and The Cards We Hated
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:20 - Housekeeping
\n5:37 - Stan's big announcement
\n13:11 - The 2022 Year in Review
\n14:55 - (Some) Companions are banned
\n20:06 - RCQs change competitive Magic
\n24:59 - The Nerd Rage Gaming Series
\n28:41 - The Best of 2022 Awards begin - The Experience of the Year
\n34:21 - The card of the year
\n42:58 - Our favorite card(s)
\n45:08 - The comeback card
\n52:40 - The best new deck
\n57:18 - Stan's instant classic
\n1:00:01 - The best deck
\n1:07:39 - Our favorite deck(s)
\n1:08:57 - The most overhyped card
\n1:15:58 - The most underhyped card
\n1:17:31 - The most hated deck(s)
\n1:21:34 - The most hated card(s)
\n1:23:30 - Favorite product of the year
\n1:27:03 - Favorite episode(s) of the year
\n1:29:58 - Guests of the year
\n1:31:54 - Wrapping things up
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Jeskai Breach has been dominating the paper and MTGO scenes for months, and Stan's obvious pleas have finally been answered. The boys dive into the deck to figure out some quick tips on what it takes to combo off.
\n\nWe also break down the results from NRG Louisville, including deck win rates across Saturday's Modern tournamnet, and the epic conclusion to the Player of the Year race.
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n5:15 - Housekeeping
\n8:06 - The Break Down - The NRG Modern Showdown
\n32:55 - Quick Pioneer Top 8
\n35:52 - Live Smell Reviews
\n39:15 - The Dive Down: Breaching for fun and profit
\n40:51 - A brief history of Grinding Breach
\n45:58 - How does the combo work?
\n50:45 - What's in the deck?
\n55:35 - What makes it tick?
\n1:02:24 - What we learned when playing
\n1:12:05 - How to beat it
\n1:18:50 - How did we like it?
\n1:24:19 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nBreach reference list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5272624#paper
\nJesse Robkin's Breach Deck Guide: https://infinite.tcgplayer.com/article/MTG-Modern-Izzet-Underworld-Breach-Deck-Guide/a4a197cf-3114-4d6b-b316-81a22363b068/
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Annnnnnnd we're back. Now that your faithful hosts have or have not recovered from Episode 200, Dreamhack, Thanksgiving, NRG Chicago, international travel, and other... ailments... it's time for the three friends to embark on the next 200 episodes of the show. To kick off the dawning of this new age of TDD, we're first going to spend some time talking about NRG Chicago and Stan's incredible performance there.
\n\nAfter heaping praise upon our favorite son who came in 10th place, we dive into some Modern decks that feature cards from The Brothers' War. First, Stan talks about Portal to Phyrexia in a Shape Anew shell — is it anew contender for the top spot in Modern? Dave talks about sacrificing creatures to get what you want in Hammer using Diabolic Intent. Shane gets Arcane but only via Proxy in Cascade Rhinos. And lastly, because he couldn't help himself, Dave breaks back into an old image of his — using Third Path Iconoclast in UR Prowess. Do any of these updates earn a coveted Sleeve rating from TDD Inc, Intl? Tune in and find out.
\n\nThe Break Down: Stan Tramples the Field at NRG Chicago
\nThe Dive Down: New Modern BROs
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:58 - Housekeeping
\n8:17 - The Break Down: The NRG Chicago Pioneer $10K
\n11:45 - Stan finishes 10th at the NRG Modern $5K
\n18:44 - The Modern Meta
\n22:02 - The top 8 decks
\n26:26 - Modern takeaways
\n32:00 - It's your local Santa impersonator
\n35:14 - The Dive Down: Stan Shapes Anew
\n43:00 - Dave Hammers with Diabolic Intent
\n54:30 - Shane Tramples with Arcane Proxy
\n1:04:31 - Dave Plays Prowess (Again)
\n1:19:20 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nShape Anew/Portal to Phyrexia: https://twitter.com/Aspiringspike/status/1597399229558759424
\nHammer w/ Diabolic Intent: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5258908#paper
\nRhinos w/ Arcane Proxy: https://twitter.com/Brittney_MTG/status/1597630506103099392
\nUR Prowess w/ Third Path Iconoclast: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/o5BZmd8eM
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Well, we finally made it — episode 200! And it's your Rhino Boyz live, together, and in the same room in a small studio outside of Atlanta during Dreamhack. To celebrate ep 200, we deliberated over a list of 200 important cards from Modern's past and present, broke them down into categories.... and then did what we do best — talked about them. Join us as we reminisce about Modern's past, celebrate its current form, and bring up every counterspell.
\n\nA very special thanks to all of you Citizens of The Dive Down Nation who keep making this possible and for making our community the absolute best. We appreciate you!
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:58 - Housekeeping
\n7:20 - 200 cards begins
\n8:12 - The Mana of Modern
\n12:32 - I'm Living in a Living Nightmare
\n16:22 - Stuff That's in Burn
\n19:30 - Cheap Removal
\n27:26 - Every Counterspell
\n30:54 - Free-ish Spells
\n36:26 - Look, I'm Drawing Cards
\n41:01 - Control Stuff
\n43:37 - Cascade Spells
\n45:28 - Midrange is Dead
\n49:52 - 1+1+1=7
\n56:30 - Other People's Favorite Cards, Pt. 1
\n1:02:16 - These Cards are Just Good, Get Over it
\n1:05:35 - Tempo Stuff
\n1:08:45 - Two Two-For-Ones
\n1:10:35 - The Elementals
\n1:13:39 - Stoneforge & Friends
\n1:15:24 - We Miss Her, We Want Her Back
\n1:16:54 - Dredge Stuff
\n1:18:37 - Our Robot Overlords
\n1:20:34 - It's Hammer Time
\n1:22:24 - Titan Stuff
\n1:25:29 - It's Tribal Time
\n1:27:25 - Some Dorks
\n1:29:27 - Creature Combo Shenanigans
\n1:31:02 - Spells Cards
\n1:34:32 - A Mill Card as a Treat
\n1:35:20 - Other People's Favorite Cards, Pt. 2
\n1:38:42 - These Cards Will Never Be Good Again
\n1:44:49 - Cards We Can't Believe Are Good Enough For Modern
\n1:47:45 - Hope These Work
\n1:49:44 - Two Companions
\n1:52:59 - Oops, We Broke Modern
\n2:01:49 - Namesake Cards
\n2:04:22 - Vaguely Unfair & Other Cool Lands
\n2:07:08 - The Top End
\n2:08:34 - Thank You!
\n2:09:44 - Other People's Favorite Cards, Pt. 3
\n2:13:19 - Closing Out
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The anticipation is almost over. What started as a blink our collective eye way back in the spring has come to pass. It's time for RC Atlanta. As the rhino boyz prepare to head down to Dreamhack to... cover(?)... the event, we turn to new friend of the show Sky Mason, aka darthjacen, from Playing Pioneer to help us work through the latest decks, trends, and strategies for Pioneer. It's a great final discussion on a format that has come back to prominence this year.
\n\nBut before all that, we have a special announcement — The Dive Down is excited to announce that we've launched our own custom merch store! Check out this limited collection of hats, shirts, and... a fanny pack (?) at thedivedown.com/store. Thank you + we appreciate you!
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n9:15 - Housekeeping
\n10:33 - WE NOW HAVE A STORE!
\n14:50 - Talking Pioneer with Sky
\n25:13 - Mono-Green Devotion
\n40:00 - Rakdos Midrange
\n51:38 - Izzet Phoenix
\n1:02:31 - Mono-White Aggro
\n1:08:28 - Abzan Greasefang
\n1:14:29 - A magical time of year
\n1:18:38 - Keruga Fires
\n1:23:41 - Selesnya Angels
\n1:28:32 - Gruul Vehicles
\n1:33:33 - Lotus Field
\n1:40:13 - Azorius Control
\n1:42:00 - Spirits
\n1:43:44 - Rakdos Sacrifice and other possibilities
\n1:50:15 - Anything from Brothers' War?
\n1:52:40 - Find Darthjacen on the net
Links from this week's episode:
\nFor all things Sky Mason — https://linktr.ee/darthjacen
\nFor SCG CON Pioneer $30k Results — https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/11890
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In this second installment of The Brothers' War spoilers, Dave and Shane lament the lack of Stan this week while chatting the plusses and minuses of 20-ish new cards that just might impact Modern and Pioneer. Is Third Path Iconoclast the new Seasoned Pyromancer? Will Woodcaller Automaton get Karn the Great Creator banned? Is Sarinth Steelseeker the sleeper card of the set? I guess we'll find out. But before all that, we spend some time assessing the Nerd Rage Gaming Team Trios $10k and Pioneer $5k that happened in Fort Wayne this past weekend.
\n\nThe Break Down: Devoted to NRG Fort Wayne
\nThe Dive Down: Saga Targets, Wishboard Targets, and More!
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n5:09 - Housekeeping
\n7:35 - The Break Down: NRG Fort Wayne
\n10:45 - The Team Trios top 8
\n20:38 - The Pioneer $5k
\n35:55 - Get Lavender-y
\n38:55 - The Dive Down: We continue to BROmance
\n40:13 - Haywire Mite
\n41:52 - Mishra's Research Desk
\n43:23 - Combat Courier
\n44:10 - Calamity's Wake
\n45:39 - Brotherhood's End
\n47:37 - Audacity
\n49:00 - Forging the Anchor
\n50:20 - Hostile Negotiations
\n52:42 - Diabolic Intent
\n57:17 - Arcane Proxy
\n59:40 - Third Path Iconoclast
\n1:03:38 - Obliterating Bolt
\n1:06:00 - Woodcaller Automaton
\n1:10:04 - Cityscape Leveler
\n1:13:16 - Rootwire Amalgam
\n1:16:02 - Arms Race
\n1:18:30 - Bladecoil Serpent
\n1:21:42 - No One Left Behind/Recomission
\n1:24:55 - Zephyr Sentinel
\n1:27:25 - Skystrike Officer
\n1:28:48 - Sarinth Steelseeker
\n1:30:39 - The most impactful cards of BRO
\n1:36:00 - We play the pre-order price game
\n1:38:43 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Fort Wayne Team Trios: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/11717
\nNRG Fort Wayne Pioneer $5k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/11718
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's that time of year again — we're fitting one more set into 2022, so it's time for us to talk about early impressions of the first batch of cards from The Brothers' War. It's a set dripping with nostalgia from here to 1994. Tune in to hear us talk about Teferi, Urzas, Wurms, and more! Before we do that we make a quick checkin on Stan's RCQ preparations on 4c... Kaheera? Karuga? Jegantha?
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n5:55 - Housekeeping
\n10:22 - The Break Down begins - Stan touches the spirit realm
\n25:18 - Dave unlocks something new in himself
\n29:16 - The Dive Down begins - Spoilers, BRO
\n32:45 - Prototype and Phyrexian Fleshgorger
\n37:31 - Skitterbeam Battalion
\n41:54 - The Commands and Mishra's Command
\n48:48 - Meld
\n51:06 - The Stone Brain
\n55:25 - Urza's Sylex
\n59:14 - Portal to Phyrexia
\n1:01:39 - The Stasis Coffin
\n1:04:48 - Blast Zone/Monastery Swiftspear
\n1:06:09 - Feldon, Ronom Excavator
\n1:09:57 - Ashnod, Flesh Mechanist
\n1:12:51 - Overwhelming Remorse
\n1:18:01 - Recruitment Officer
\n1:19:37 - Surge Engine
\n1:22:07 - Hurkyl, Master Wizard
\n1:27:13 - Teferi, Temporal Pilgrim
\n1:33:05 - Closing out
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In this week's episode, we break down the Nerd Rage Gaming $10k Team Trios Trial and the $5k Modern Trial in Newark, Ohio. We look at the overall metagame, the new breakout decks in Modern, and what did well (and not so well). Following that, we take a bit of time to talk about some decks we've been playing in Modern and Pioneer!
\n\nWe share our hands-on experiences getting better with RB Scam, the swingness of Gruul beatdown in Pioneer, the power level of 4C Omnath in a post-Yorion metagame, and why Domain Zoo is probably not the aggro deck we were hoping for.
\n\nThe Break Down: Featuring Kaheera
\nThe Dive Down: Not Featuring Kaheera
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:03 - Housekeeping
\n9:01 - The Break Down begins - The NRG Team Trio 10k
\n9:43 - The Pioneer meta
\n16:28 - The Modern meta
\n26:28 - The Team Trio top 8
\n36:52 - The Modern 5k meta
\n42:41 - The Modern 5k top 8
\n49:22 - Talking about Companions
\n55:51 - The Dive Down begins - Stan plays 5-Color Domain
\n1:02:18 - Stan plays Soul of Windgrace Jund Saga
\n1:08:35 - Stan plays 4C Control
\n1:15:00 - Shane plays Gruul Aggro
\n1:22:12 - Dave plays Red Aggro and Scam
\n1:26:39 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe $10k Team Trios Trial: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/11715
\nThe $5k Modern Trial: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/11716
\n4C Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5168888#paper
\n5C Domain: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5168914#paper
\nJund Saga: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5168886#paper
\nGruul Aggro: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5172483#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
What does Modern look like now that Yorion is banned? On this week's show we go through the complete Friday October 14 deck dump to discuss our expectations for the format's staples and other rogue decks.
\n\nWe consider the contenders for the "best new deck," including Murktide, Creativity, and Hammer. Plus we take stock of the initial attempts at 4C Omnath decks in 60 cards. And imagine the potential for emerging or rogue strategies, like 5C Zoo, Scam, and Breach.
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:16 - Housekeeping
\n9:26 - The People's Meta begins
\n12:15 - Murktide
\n18:29 - Hammertime
\n24:09 - Creativity
\n30:52 - 4C Omnath
\n36:21 - Rakdos Midrange
\n42:19 - Cascade decks
\n45:18 - Burn
\n48:08 - Amulet Titan
\n50:18 - Yawgmoth
\n52:39 - Control decks
\n58:14 - Grinding Breach
\n1:03:47 - Shadow
\n1:10:25 - Riding the Waves
\n1:13:14 - Mill
\n1:16:12 - Scapeshift
\n1:18:40 - Tron
\n1:20:43 - Uncategorized assertive decks
\n1:27:04 - A bunch of midrange
\n1:30:07 - Aether Vial decks
\n1:33:37 - Affinity stuff
\n1:34:37 - Uncategorized creature combo
\n1:37:19 - Prowess
\n1:40:35 - Mono-black control stuff
\n1:41:53 - Combo grab-bag
\n1:43:03 - What we might want to try
\n1:47:12 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-league-2022-10-14
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
Yorion is banned, rejoice! To celebrate, we're scamming it up with Rakdos Scam aka Rakdos Elementals aka Rakdos Midrange aka Rakdos Blink. A deck that goes by many names but it's only got one thing on it's mind. Turn 1 Grief, baby! It's a Modern deck dive of undying proportions.
\n\nWe kick off with a Break Down of Modern's B&R. Did WOTC go far enough? Did the right card get banned? And where does the format go from here?
\nThen we dive into Rakdos Scam to see what all the hype is about this MH2-inspired Midrange deck. Is it the next Jund or something new entirely?
The Break Down: [BANS] Sky Noodles & Company
\nThe Dive Down, pt1: Evoking an Advantage
\nThe Dive Down, pt2: A Lot of Other Very Mid Cards
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n5:50 - Housekeeping
\n8:49 - The Break Down - Yorion is banned!
\n25:44 - But no Pioneer bans
\n32:00 - Spooky scents
\n34:28 - The Dive Down - It's Scammin' time!
\n40:07 - A brief history of Rakdos Elementals
\n44:27 - The creatures of Rakdos Blink
\n1:02:42 - The spells of Rakdos Midrange
\n1:18:37 - Playing Rakdos Undying
\n1:25:41 - The strengths and weaknesses of Rakdos Scam
\n1:36:48 - Sideboarding and matchups
\n1:38:54 - Our final takes
\n1:44:30 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nB&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/october-10-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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Today is the story of a deck that has been floating around for a long time in Modern, a deck that we won’t let Dave forget about, a deck that inspired us to invite our old pal Zach "Manacymbal" Ryl... that's right, it's time for a Indomitable Creativity deck dive.
\n\nWe chat about some of the different versions of the deck floating around, including the 5 color version with Leyline Binding and Grixis, sideboard strategies, tips and tricks with individual cards, and more.
\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n\nHousekeeping - 6:56
\nEarly History of Creativity - 8:00
\nX=1 (Velomachus Turns) - 12:22
\nX=2 (MH2/Emrakul/Serra’s Emissary) - 16:30
\nX= up to 4 (Archon of Cruelty Emerges) - 19:00
\nFable and Leyline Binding Emerge - 21:30
\nFlavors of Creativity - 24:15
\nHow the Deck Works (or Doesn’t) - 27:19
\nBack Up Plans - 33:02
\nEnablers (W6 + Fable) - 35:14
\nProtection Spells/Teferi - 45:10
\nInteraction - 48:38
\nHow To Be Creative - 53:22
\nIs W6 the backbone of creativity? - 55:00
\nSequencing land drops - 58:10
\nHow Creativity is positioned - 1:01:30
\nClosing out - 1:07:15:03
Links from this week's episode:
\n\n5C: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5136656#paper
\nIntroduces Leyline Binding, Boseiju, Nature’s Claim, Veil of Summer
\nhttps://mtgmelee.com/Decklist/View/246731
4C/Temur: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5136649#paper
\n\nGrixis: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5133050#paper
\n\nKanister's list: https://twitter.com/kanister_mtg/status/1575123839968747521/photo/1
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
This week Dave and Stan review the results from the NRG Modern $10K in Minneapolis, where 5c Creativity beat Rakdos Scam in the finals. We also chat about the Sunday Pioneer $5K results, and other data that's been shared from across the weekend. Then we dip our toes in a couple new Modern decks to see if we like playing Scapeshift or Mono-Green Devotion.
\n\nThe Break Down: NRG Minneapolis Modern $10k and Pioneer $5k
\nThe Dive Down: Trying Out Scapshift (Modern) & MonoG (Pioneer)
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\n\nTimestamps:
\nHousekeeping - 4:45
\nNRG Minneapolis Modern 10K - 7:07
\nModern Metagame Breakdown - 10:00
\nModern Top 8 - 29:15
\nNRG Pioneer $5K - 46:40
\nTournament Winrates Across Decks - 58:00
\nStan plays Scapeshift - 1:12:36
\nDave plays Mono-Green Devotion - 1:28:22
Links from this week's episode:
\n\nhttps://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/10501
\n\nhttps://twitter.com/jekleckner/status/1574519024452763648?s=46&t=LFo9NVqh6FHt7ERhNQEOJg
\n\nhttps://twitter.com/jekleckner/status/1574527119706804240?s=21&t=wjnnmBpxc8xzQekdAoEOqQ
\n\nhttps://articles.nerdragegaming.com/the-nrg-championship-series/nrg-championship-trials-standings/
\n\nhttps://twitter.com/GR_DONKIN/status/1572390053556457472?s=20&t=9-72YkHS22jcINubKZ7X_A
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
The introduction of three new lords in Dominaria United was all the incentive we needed to do a tribal week on The Dive Down. We tested some Modern and a Pioneer deck featuring Leaf-Crowned Visionary, Vodalian Hexcatcher, and Rundvelt Hordemaster for another edition of Sleeve Believe Heave.
\n\nWe also kick off the show with a preview of NRG Minneapolis by looking at the recent Modern results from the LMS Paris Grand Open Qualifier.
\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\n\nCheck out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more.
\n\nGet 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "THEDIVEDOWN15"
\n\nAnd now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:55 - Housekeeping
\n7:13 - The Break Down - NRG Minneapolis preview
\n10:16 - Talking about the Modern Grand Open Qualifier data
\n26:22 - What are we thinking about NRG Minneapolis
\n34:53 - The Four Horsemen
\n37:44 - The Dive Down begins - Stan with Leaf-Crowned Visionary in Elves
\n56:22 - Shane with Vodalian Hexcatcher in Merfolk
\n1:15:47 - Dave with Rundvelt Hordemaster in Goblins
\n1:34:00 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Series Trial Weekend Minneapolis: https://articles.nerdragegaming.com/event/nrg-series-15000-trial-weekend-minneapolis-mn-2/
LMS Paris Data: https://twitter.com/mtg_data/status/1571942341631516672
\n\nGB Elves
\nModern: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5105536#paper
\nPioneer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5088823#paper
Modern Merfolk: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5105541#paper
\n\nModern Goblins: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5073113#paper
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
This week it takes two to make a thing go right! And by two we me Dave and Shane. And by thing we mean podcast. This podcast. Stan is out this week, so Dave and Shane talk about early impressions of Pioneer and Modern with access to the powerful cards of Dominaria United. Topics covered include: Leyline Binding, Rundvelt Hordemaster, Boglins, Sheoldred, and more.
\n\nHousekeeping: We Sent Out a Lot of Boxes
\nThe Dive Down: We Talk About a Lot of Cards
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\n\nCheck out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more.
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:19 - Housekeeping
\n6:56 - An ultra-short Break Down
\n7:50 - The Dive Down begins: Leyline Binding
\n31:03 - Rundvelt Hordemaster
\n37:30 - Serra Paragon
\n39:40 - Yotia Declares War/The Elder Dragon War
\n42:27 - Voldalian Hexcatcher
\n44:00 - Dave only wears Russian Leather
\n48:15 - The MIA cards from Dominaria United
\n53:11 - Liliana of the Veil
\n58:28 - Sheoldred, the Apocalypse
\n1:07:04 - Phoenix Chick
\n1:10:22 - Jaya, Fiery Negotiator
\n1:13:11 - Pain lands
\n1:14:40 - Some final thoughts
\n1:19:39 - Closing out
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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Fresh off an amazing weekend at the NRG tournament in St. Louis, Jesse Robkin joins us to break down the Team Trios Trial and the Modern 5K. Then our old pal Aspiringspike drops in to go over the remaining cards from Dominaria United that have potential for constructed play.
\n\nJesse and team reached the finals of the NRG Team Trios Trial on Saturday, where she piloted Mono Green Devotion in the Pioneer seat. Then on Sunday, she pulled out her trusty Izzet Breach deck and made the finals again in the Modern 5K. She walks us through her touranments, lessons learned with the decks she played, and the overall metagame from the weekend's events.
\n\nThen for the second half of the show, Evart Moughon AKA Aspiringspike drops in to wrap up our discussion of Dominaria United, now that the full spoiler is live. We go over the tribal lords, the white interaction, and more!
\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
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\n\nAnd now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/
\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:17 - Housekeeping
\n5:06 - Introducing Jesse Robkin
\n9:35 - The NRG Team Trios event through Jesse's eyes
\n22:28 - The NRG Team Trios meta
\n27:32 - The finals winners
\n29:08 - Taking Izzet Breach to the finals of the 5k
\n35:48 - The 5K top 8
\n39:21 - Jesse's parting thoughts
\n42:48 - Well water woes
\n45:56 - Aspiringspike is back!
\n49:01 - Spike's thoughts on Modern
\n56:58 - The cards we're most excited about: Leyline Binding
\n1:07:56 - Aether Channeler
\n1:13:31 - Soul of Windgrace
\n1:18:25 - Founding the Third Path
\n1:23:48 - Balmor, Battlemage Captain
\n1:25:09 - Leafcrown Visionary
\n1:28:02 - Vodalian Hexcatcher
\n1:30:38 - Rundvelt Hordemaster
\n1:34:02 - Some cards we are excited for in Pioneer
\n1:44:53 - Temporary Lockdown and Karn's Sylex
\n1:47:43 - Good stuff for Pioneer or Modern if you're lucky: Serra Paragon
\n1:50:35 - Electrostatic Infantry
\n1:54:01 - Shore Up
\n1:55:54 - Ghitu Amplifier
\n1:58:38 - Academy Loremaster
\n2:00:23 - What we are excited for in Dominaria
\n2:03:55 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nFind Jesse Robkin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tiddypills
\nFind Aspiringspike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Aspiringspike
\nFind Aspiringspike on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Aspiringspike
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
This week it's all about the first batch Dominaria United spoilers as Dave and Shane talk through what cards have caught our eye so far. How much of a lock is Temporary Lockdown? Does Cut Down make the cut? What other cards does Shane think aren't constructed worthy imo. imo bb. But before we get into all that we get a special RCQ report from Stan (still on vacation!) where he takes us through his last days of being a horn dog (and a top 8 finish!) in Green Bay. Dave and Shane also quickly check in on Frank Karsten's first pass at making sense of the modern meta.
\n\nPart 1: Our Final Horndog Update... For Now?
\nPart 2: A Frank Discussion About Modern
\nPart 3: A Lockdown, A Sylex, & More
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\n\nCheck out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more.
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:44 - Housekeeping
\n8:22 - Stan talks his final (???) RCQ
\n29:02 - Frank Karsten analyzes the Modern meta
\n45:40 - Previewing the NRG Team Trio event
\n50:58 - A touch of patchouli
\n53:54 - Dominaria United spoilers begin
\n58:06 - Tolarian Terror, Writhing Necromass, Urborg Lhurgoyf
\n1:03:53 - Temporary Lockdown
\n1:09:53 - Karn's Sylex
\n1:13:55 - Rundvelt Hordemaster
\n1:17:03 - Founding the Third Path
\n1:19:45 - Phoenix Chick
\n1:23:33 - Cult Conscript
\n1:25:20 - Jaya, Fiery Negotiator
\n1:30:05 - Cut Down
\n1:31:52 - Astor, Bearer of Blades
\n1:35:06 - Rona's Vortex
\n1:37:20 - Shivan Devastator
\n1:39:02 - Twinferno
\n1:41:20 - Raff, Weatherlight Stalwart
\n1:43:30 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nFrank Karsten's Modern Meta Breakdown, 8/18: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/metagame-mentor-modern-roundup-august-2022
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
Our exciting first bit of Dominaria United spoilers are here, and the gang reacts to the addition of three new allied pain lands, Liliana of the Veil coming to Pioneer, and more.
\n\nWe also kick off the show with a Rhino tournament report from... Shane! The one and only took the deck out for his first Modern RCQ and did not disappoint us. Then we wrap up the episode with a discussion of a fascinating new article from our favorite Magic mathematician, Frank Karsten, who's latest foray into metagame reporting provides a new framework for deck and tournament analysis in the winner's metagame.
\n\nPart 1: Shane Says Things About Rhinos
\nPart 2: Stan Says Things Under Embargoes
\nPart 3: Dave Says Things About Adjusting Wins
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\n\nCheck out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more.
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:38 - Housekeeping
\n7:32 - Shane talks his RhinoCQ
\n42:03 - Early Dominaria United spoilers begin
\n44:45 - The mechanics of Dominaria
\n48:21 - The World Spell
\n53:08 - Liliana of the Veil is back!
\n1:03:26 - The painlands are also back!
\n1:11:36 - The Phasing of Zhalfir
\n1:13:07 - Sheoldred, the Apocalypse
\n1:16:02 - Frank Karsten is our new Metagame Mentor
\n1:27:21 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nShane's RCQ Rhinos deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5022278#paper
\nFrank's Pioneer Metagame Mentor: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-pioneer-metagame-roundup-august-2022
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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CCR from MTG Grindcast joins us to talk about all things Living End. On the heels of his RCQ win with the deck, Chris helps us break down the cards, the sickest plays, how to beat common hate strategies, and more!
\n\nIn another classic deck dive and pseudo follow-up to our recent episode on Rhinos, we discuss why the two cascade decks are fundamentally different, even though they share a common core. Chris was the perfect guest for this episode, not only because he's a seasoned podcaster with excellent mic technique, but he's been mastering various shades of Living End for years before Modern Horizons 2 took it to the top of the metagame.
\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\n\nCheck out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use code THEDIVEDOWN15 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more.
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n5:54 - Housekeeping
\n10:10 - The Dive Down begins - Living End with CCR!
\n16:18 - How Living End works
\n19:38 - The construction of the deck
\n25:18 - The Cascade engine
\n30:10 - Using the Cyclers (and a discussion about graveyard hate)
\n44:20 - CCR's approach to post-board games
\n46:13 - Back to the Cyclers
\n49:59 - The Elementals
\n57:08 - The lands
\n59:08 - The sideboard
\n1:09:53 - Strategic tips n' tricks - when to cycle?
\n1:14:06 - Using Grief
\n1:21:05 - When to Violent Outburst
\n1:25:34 - Mulliganing
\n1:29:04 - Matchups and sideboarding - 4 Color
\n1:39:46 - Most creature-based decks
\n1:42:52 - Izzet Murktide
\n1:47:15 - Other big matchups
\n1:50:11 - Our overall thoughts on Living End
\n1:57:52 - Let's talk Chris!
\n2:01:51 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://twitter.com/CCR_Grindcast
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\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week it's all about the NRG Championship Series event in Chicago. We dive deep into the data, the most popular decks, the sickest plays, and the cherished friendships that make an event like this possible. We go over the top 10 (or so) decks of the weekend, break down the overall metagame, talk with a few players from the floor of the tournament, and hear how Stan did in the swiss (spoiler: pretty well!).
\n\nIntro: Number One Horn Player Meets Captain Cascade
\nThe Break Down: Pivots and Points Per Pilot
\nThe Break Down, 2: What Do We Think Now?
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:23 - Housekeeping
\n9:04 - The Chicagoland NRG Modern 10k - Stan's tournament report
\n18:16 - The tournament meta report
\n24:50 - Stan talks to Zach Allen
\n34:21 - Stan talks to Jesse Robkin
\n41:25 - Back to the meta report
\n57:10 - Stan talks to Will Krueger
\n1:03:59 - More meta
\n1:14:22 - Beard talk
\n1:17:48 - Stan talks to Norman Cohen
\n1:29:37 - The top 8
\n1:33:38 - Cool Decks, Inc
\n1:37:11 - Parting thoughts
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Temur Rhinos are craschading onto this week's show, in a classic deck dive into the midrangy combo deck. Plus a preview of the upcoming Nerd Rage Series Modern Trial in Mundelein! Stan's been playing a lot of Rhinos lately, and some recent discounts on Force of Negation finally got Shane to pull the trigger on buying the deck. So Dave said "let's do a deck dive!" and in the ensuing practice matches, we discovered an amazing thing... everyone loves playing this deck! We also kick off the episode with some metagame predictions and leaderboard check-in ahead of this weekend's Nerd Rage Series Modern Trial in Mundelein.
\n\nThe Break Down: NRG: Chicago Preview
\nThe Dive Down: A Deck We Can All Agree On
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Crashing in for the Win
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n1:38 - Housekeeping
\n6:58 - The Break Down begins: The NRG Modern 10k trial preview
\n11:48 - The potential NRG metagame
\n19:48 - What will the season leaders be playing?
\n23:00 - The Barbers of Seville
\n25:45 - The Dive Down begins - These Rhinos are Making me Crashy!
\n31:13 - What is this deck all about?
\n38:29 - The construction of the deck
\n42:14 - The interaction
\n50:50 - Additional threats and interaction
\n53:58 - Flex spots
\n58:43 - The sideboard
\n1:06:37 - Sweet plays and protips
\n1:10:44 - Keep or mull
\n1:16:14 - How to tempo your opponent out
\n1:24:16 - Buying yourself some time
\n1:28:15 - Matchups
\n1:37:03 - Sideboards
\n1:40:00 - Other Rhino variants
\n1:42:59 - Our takes on Rhinos
\n1:49:58 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe NRG Chicago Modern 10k: https://articles.nerdragegaming.com/event/nrg-series-15000-trial-weekend-chicagoland-il/
\nCrashing Footfalls: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4963081#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's another nice week to try new cards and decks in the wide world of Modern. Dave takes another stab at Indomitable Creativity with Gab Nassif's recent list, while Shane assembles a Tron of Eldrazi proportions with the latest prison shell. Meanwhile, Stan chases the dinosaur in search of turn 2 wins with Gruul Prowess.
\n\nThe Break Down: Stan Plays a RCQ
\nThe Dive Down: Dave Can't Direct Creativity
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Shane Accepts Any Kind of Tron
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Stan Finds No Quarter For Prowess
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n5:00 - Housekeeping
\n11:59 - The Break Down begins - Stan's RCQ
\n25:15 - The Nation succeeds
\n27:09 - Bonjour!
\n30:40 - The Dive Down begins - Dave talks Creativity
\n53:54 - Shane talks E/Prison Tron
\n1:12:45 - Stan talks Gruul Prowess
\n1:29:45 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\n4C Creativity: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4928222#paper
\nPrison Tron: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4961701#paper
\nGruul Prowess: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/-0sQpLq8v
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The current top dog of the NRG Series leaderboard joins us to discuss all things Modern for all your RCQ preparation needs. Zach Allen returns for a conversation about the various types of 4C Yorion decks, the merits of Murktide's flex spots, the position of green creature combo decks, and his favorite ways to cascade right now.
\n\nSure you can play the best deck when you try to take down your Modern RCQ, but what is the best deck REALLY? Turns out, there might be more than one... And when you least expect it, surprise, a maindeck Emrakul! Ready for another suprise? Boom, you just lost to burn on turn 4 before your Omnath could even do anything. Tune in to hear how you too can win (as long as you play a good deck or figure out what beats the good decks).
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n7:05 — Housekeeping
\n8:58 — RCQs and what they are
\n11:04 — The Current Character of Modern
\n14:45 — An Overview: The Top 4 Decks of Modern
\n18:31 — Deck 1: Yorion Piles
\n38:28 — Deck 2: Cascade
\n49:04 — Deck 3: UR Ragavan Decks
\n1:05:08 — Deck 4: Yawgmoth
\n1:12:45 — The… Most Interesting… of the Rest
\n1:14:05 — Hammer Speculation
\n1:16:23 — UW Affinity Yorion/Urza Speculation
\n1:17:20 — Tameshi Combo
\n1:18:07 — Hammer Speculation, pt.2
\n1:22:40 — Creativity Speculation
\n1:23:47 — Amulet Titan
\n1:24:30 — Omnath Glimpse
\n1:26:01 — Last Thoughts on RCQs
\n1:27:38 — Can We Do This Unban Talk?
\n1:38:15 — Talking NRG
\n1:43:05 — Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\ntwitter.com/a22en
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Friend of the show and Pioneer aficionado Todd Anderson joins us this week to go over the top decks, up and comers, unsung heroes, and potential traps in the format. Mono-Green continues to reign supreme, but could Young Pyromancer put up a fight?
\n\nWe also look into the Mono-Green vs Rakdos matchup, how well control is positioned, what happened to Lotus Field, and more! This episode is high flying, fast talking, and really in depth... try to keep up!
\n\nThe Dive Down: Mono-Green Devotion
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Izzet Pyromancer
\nThe Dive Down, cont: The Other Ones
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:13 - Housekeeping and a special announcement
\n7:31 - Hanging with the Todd Squad
\n19:02 - How does Pioneer function as a format?
\n25:13 - What's the best deck in the format?
\n30:50 - How do the best decks play against each other?
\n32:33 - What makes a strong Pioneer deck?
\n37:02 - What are underappreciated decks in Pio?
\n38:50 - Summer Fridays
\n42:25 - Thoughts on some other decks
\n46:45 - Preparing for a Pioneer RCQ
\n48:37 - Todd talks Izzet Pyromancer
\n55:29 - Are there any "trap" decks or cards, and why is Rakdos Midrange good?
\n1:02:24 - Is Mono-Green too good?
\n1:06:20 - Stan's Pioneer ban burns
\n1:12:51 - Revisiting Izzet Pyromancer
\n1:16:50 - Final verdict: How to approach a Pioneer RCQ
\n1:22:02 - Closing out with Todd
Links from this week's episode:
\nTodd on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Tandy
\nTodd on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/tandy
\nTodd on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TandyMTG
\nIzzet Pyromancer: https://twitter.com/TandyMTG/status/1543230873222381568?s=20&t=fkQba52rNy8QU6XqKxl5MA
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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Though we do have some frustrations to air at the start of the show, we eventually turn it around to discuss the many ways Magic (the Gathering) has improved our lives. Then we take a brief trip down memory lane to remember how some people improved our Magic playing skills too.
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n7:38 - Housekeeping
\n12:32 - The Dive Down begins
\n14:28 - Leveling up in Magic - Have a plan
\n29:06 - Having a collective 75 cards
\n39:51 - Stan on mulligans
\n45:23 - Do the math
\n52:47 - Sometimes the best deck isn't for you
\n59:29 - Don't be ROTty
\n1:15:35 - The latest Barrister & Mann releases
\n1:18:43 - Don't tilt
\n1:29:26 - Appreciate community
Links from this week's episode:
\nLimited Resources Episode 57: Tilt Less Win More: https://lrcast.com/limited-resources-57-tilt-less-win-more/
\nCollins' Tweet: https://twitter.com/collinsmullen/status/1540050234788683779?s=20&t=43m5QektO51r128fOWp3Cw
\nMason's Tweet: https://twitter.com/masoneclark_/status/1539653313335263232?s=21&t=JSJTZV16R3_pkSgOUOw8nQ
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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What can Izzet decks in Pioneer play instead of Expressive Iteration? How crazy was the MOCS meta from the weekend? Is Glimpse of Tomorrow a good card in Modern? This week's show answers these questions and more in a format-spanning Dive Down of takes hot and cold.
\nBut first, off the top we deliver a little announcement about the future of The Dive Down (nothing big, we swear — but you should listen).
\nShane doesn't even need Nykthos. Stan can quit cascading any time he wants to. Dave actually seems to get mad about something.
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n10:01 - Housekeeping
\n13:11 - 1a: Expressive Iteration isn't irreplaceable in Pioneer
\n19:51 - 1b: EI in Izzet Control
\n25:52 - 1c: EI in Izzet Phoenix
\n30:42 - 2: Mono-Green Devotion is good, even without Nykthos
\n35:57 - 3: Mono-Blue Spirits is solidifying itself, but for how long?
\n43:44 - 4: Humans might be underexplored in Pio
\n49:25 - 5: What is there to like, and not like, about Pioneer?
\n1:02:45 - #smellovision
\n1:05:14 - 6: The MOCS final
\n1:17:00 - 7: Stan plays Calibrated Blast
\n1:21:59 - 8: Stan plays Glimpse Elementals Cascade
\n1:28:25 - 9: The sad loss of random playables
\n1:32:52 - 10: Stan plays... Commander?
\n1:37:47 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nMOCS Modern Decks: https://magic.gg/decklists/2022-magic-online-champions-showcase-season-1-modern-decklists
\nStan plays Commander on Brainstorm Brewery: https://www.twitch.tv/brainstormbrewery
\nMono-Green Devotion: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-mono-green-ramp-2d53d633-2a78-4eb9-a5e7-52ad849c7a82#paper
\nMono-Blue Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-mono-blue-spirits#paper
\nPioneer Humans: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4895735#paper
\nCalibrated Blast: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-calibrated-blast#paper
\nGlimpse Elementals: https://twitter.com/GR_DONKIN/status/1537259984702124032
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's a hot one on The Dive Down this week. We take a deep look at NRG's recent set of Modern and Pioneer Trials in Lansing, Michigan and tackle the big questions about our favorite formats. Is 4c too good for Modern? What can even be done if it is too good? What's happened to Pioneer without Winota and Expressive Iteration? How many words can the three of us get beeped out in one episode? And more! Stan fights through jet lag and still brings the insights. Shane loves talking about bad decks that performed badly. And, finally, Dave gets his comeuppance.
\n\nThe Break Down: An Intro for Our Times
\nThe Break Down: NRG Modern: A Format With Great Playstyle Diversity
\nThe Break Down: NRG Pioneer: No Alarms and No Surprises, Please
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:30 - Housekeeping
\n6:15 - The NRG Lansing Event
\n9:40 - The NRG Modern overall metagame
\n15:39 - The Top 64 meta
\n36:10 - The Top 8
\n39:07 - Is 4-Color too good?
\n54:45 - Stan's back, and he smells good
\n57:30 - The NRG Pioneer metagame
\n1:02:33 - How the good Pioneer decks performed
\n1:21:20 - What decks didn't do well?
\n1:26:30 - The Top 8
\n1:28:47 - Even more thoughts on Pioneer
\n1:32:02 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Modern $10k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/9604
\nNRG Pioneer: $5k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/9605
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Shane and Dave are totally blindsided by this week's Pioneer bans — especially since they happened after we recorded this ep. But don't worry, we use the power of technology to travel into the past and add a segment of hot reactions and speculation on what's next for Pio. After that, we continue with our regularly scheduled episode breaking down the Modern $10k at DreamHack Dallas and diving into Pioneer's most mid deck — Rakdos Mid! Shane hates all the creatures. Dave loves all the spells. Stan loves having a week off.
\n\nThe Break Down: A Record Scratched — Surprise Pioneer Bans
\nThe Break Down: A Modern $10K Where Mill 7-0-1’d
\nThe Dive Down: A 14% Meta Share Deck that Wasn’t Banned
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:55 - Housekeeping
\n9:28 - The Break Down begins - SURPRISE it's some Pioneer bans!
\n23:18 - What is the impact on Pioneer?
\n29:16 - The Dallas Dreamhack Modern 10k
\n31:34 - The top 64 breakdown
\n41:08 - The top 8
\n53:51 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n1:06:50 - Scent of the Day
\n1:12:20 - The Dive Down begins - Rakdos Midrange in Pioneer
\n1:16:02 - What's the deal with Midrange?
\n1:20:07 - Hand disruption
\n1:32:45 - Removal
\n1:41:08 - Creatures
\n1:57:11 - Planeswalkers
\n2:06:15 - Strengths and weaknesses
\n2:14:49 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nDreamhack Modern 10k down in Dallas: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/10457
\nRakdos Midrange in Pioneer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-rakdos-midrange#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week the three friends dive into an examination of not one but two metas — Modern and Pioneer — using some recent 5-0 league decks. We collect em, dissect em, and... tierect (???)... em. You know what we mean... we're placing them into groups and discussing what decks we think are going up, down, and sideways. Dave tries to run through Modern quickly. Stan and Shane dilly dally and then get mad when we don't have as much time as we'd hoped for Pioneer. Dave resists the urge to say I told you so.
\n\nPlease note/CW: this episode starts with a message of a serious nature from the team. Start at Housekeeping if you'd like to skip.
\n\nThe Dive Down: The People's Meta: Modern!
\nThe Dive Down, pt.2: The People's Meta: Pioneer!
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n5:23 - Housekeeping
\n11:20 - The People's Meta - Modern ed.
\n16:20 - The mainstream decks of Modern
\n52:12 - Outside the Modern mainstream
\n1:09:40 - The People's Meta - Pioneer ed.
\n1:37:00 - Outside the Pio mainstream
\n1:43:30 - Some takes on Pioneer
\n1:53:25 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nModern League 5/27: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-league-2022-05-27#paper
\nWhy it is time to cut Murktide Regent by Michael Rapp: https://blog.cardkingdom.com/why-it-is-time-to-cut-murktide-regent/
\nPioneer League 5/23: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-league-2022-05-23#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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The three friends are taking it back to the streets on more time. This week we evaluate three different decks that were improved or created by the addition of SNC to our formats. Shane pods his way through a Naya deck full of combos in Modern. Stan shreds his way through infinite turns in Modern. Dave explains so he's falling short of virtuosity in Explorer. It's a real journey through a few more cards making an impact. Before that, though, we break down the top 8 of NRG Minneapolis where three other friends (of the pod) take the whole thing down.
\n\nThe Break Down: NRG Minneapolis
\nThe Dive Down: Combos in Modern!
\nThe Dive Down, pt.2: Prowess in Explorer!
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n6:06 - Housekeeping
\n8:34 - The Break Down - The NRG Team Tournament
\n11:06 - The Top 8 teams
\n33:34 - The Top 8 meta
\n41:45 - It's Soap Time
\n44:56 - The Dive Down begins - Shane on Naya Combos in Modern
\n51:45 - The strenghts of the deck
\n55:08 - The weaknesses of the deck
\n1:08:55 - Shane's final thoughts
\n1:12:04 - Stan on Dimir Asmo Food Combo in Modern
\n1:22:50 - How to turn 3 combo
\n1:26:16 - Sideboarding with combo decks is hard
\n1:32:45 - Stan's final thoughts
\n1:34:48 - Dave on Boros Aggro in Explorer
\n1:45:27 - Dave's final thoughts
\n1:49:32 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nModern Naya Combos: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4818579#paper
\nModern Dimir Asmo Food: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-asmo-food#paper
\nModern Boros Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4841502#paper
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This week's episode starts with Dave telling a shaggy dog story while fumbling through the Seinfeld theme on his bass — so you know it's going to be a loose one. Fortunately, Shane and Stan quickly bring the three friends back on track (within the first 4 minutes, we swear) and take us all through Winota's ban in Explorer, four different challenges across Modern and Pioneer, and finally some of their testing results with Winota and Izzet Phoenix in Pioneer. Stan rolls to a non-interactive 4-1. Shane can't stop shreddin. Dave can't stop slappin the bass.
\n\nThe Break Down, I: Winota's Gone in Explorer!
\nThe Break Down, II: Kicking Bass in a Bunch of Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Winota's Here in Pioneer! So is Phoenix!
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n5:40 - Housekeeping
\n8:46 - The Break Down begins - The first Explorer bans
\n17:11 - Saturday's Pioneer Challenge
\n28:49 - Sunday's Pioneer Challenge
\n35:30 - Cool Decks, Inc - Pioneer ed.
\n38:48 - Saturday's Modern Challenge
\n46:23 - Sunday's Modern Challenge
\n52:26 - Public Smelling Stories
\n55:58 - The Dive Down - Stan's hot takes on Winota
\n1:00:16 - Fable of the Mirror breaker is a protection spell
\n1:04:00 - Esika's Chariot = Splinter Twin
\n1:06:58 - Deck mull good
\n1:09:25 - Enablers are good
\n1:12:05 - Modern vs. Pioneer gameplay discussion
\n1:20:05 - Shane casts blue and red cards
\n1:34:00 - Shane's thoughts on Izzet Phoenix in Explorer
\n1:41:56 - Stan cracks a pack
\n1:44:35 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nMay 11 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/may-11-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\nSaturday's Pio Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12418751#paper
\nSunday's Pio Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12418755#paper
\nSaturday's Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12418748#paper
\nSunday's Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12418754#paper
\nNaya Winota in Pioneer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4818484#paper
\nIzzet Phoenix in Explorer: https://mtgazone.com/explorer-izzet-phoenix-deck-guide/
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The boys flap their little wings and scream caw caw as they dig their beaks into the hottest bird lawyer in Magic this week. Whether it's ripping up contracts, filtering hands, shouting 'objection!' or pumping flyers, Ledger Shredder does it all. But does it have what it take to be a multiformat staple? Yes, apparently yes.
\n\nThe Break Down: Living End Won't Die
\nThe Dive Down: New Bird Learns to Fly
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Filling Graveyards Can Be Sly
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n4:02 - Housekeeping
\n5:56 - The Break Down - The Modern Showcase Challenge
\n6:54 - The Top 32 breakdown
\n10:25 - The Top 8
\n16:44 - Cool Decks, Inc - Modern edition
\n25:17 - The Pioneer Showcase Challenge
\n38:55 - Cool Decks, Inc - Pioneer Edition
\n41:53 - #Sponsored
\n45:16 - The Dive Down - Do You Even Shred?
\n52:03 - Why is Ledger Shredder good?
\n1:11:24 - Ledger Shredder in Explorer/Pioneer
\n1:27:55 - Ledger Shredder in Modern
\n1:41:42 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Modern Showcase: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-showcase-challenge-2022-05-08?xd28
\nThe Pioneer Showcase: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-showcase-challenge-2022-05-09
\nIzzet Flyers: https://tinyurl.com/izzetflyers
\nEsper Greasefang: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4806004#paper
\nEsper Reanimator: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/ledger-shredder-reanimator-decklist-by-kanister-mtg-1365778
\nGrixis Death's Shadow: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/3m-EJaUSq
\nGrinding Breach: https://twitter.com/tiddypills/status/1523323490866192386?s=20&t=6DB3Mg4lDJQPdZ54ohn7BA
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Our three friends begin their visit to the Streets of New Capenna with some Explorer, Pioneer, and Modern decks. We take a look at Ob Nixilis, The Adversary and Stan's uncharacteristic BW Blink brew with Getaway Car and Extraction Specialist.
\n\nThe Break Down: New Cards in Pio + Modern Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: 20 Mostly Good Minutes on Mob Nixilis
\nStuff We Forgot: We’ll Talk About Ledger Shredder Next Week, Ok?
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\n\nTimestamps:
\n3:17 - Housekeeping
\n11:17 - The Break Down begins - The Pioneer Challenge!
\n32:09 - Pioneer Cool Decks, Inc
\n40:16 - The Modern Challenge!
\n47:05 - Modern Cool Decks, Inc
\n58:20 - Stan's Razor Digression
\n1:02:37 - The Dive Down begins - The decks of New Capenna
\n1:05:55 - Rakdos Midrange in Explorer
\n1:15:30 - Evaluating Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
\n1:32:38 - More thoughts on Explorer
\n1:40:45 - Stan's Pioneer experiments
\n1:51:15 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4774204#paper
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In a special patron-requested episode, our three friends provide a roadmap to improvement for key Magic skills and other useful habits. We also kick off the show with run downs and reactions to the latest Magic Arena announcements for Explorer and Pioneer.
\n\nHuge thanks to Codi for supporting our show at the esteemed Double-Sided Diamond Dust Rare level, which has earned them the coveted opportunity to select an episode topic for the show.
\n\nThe Break Down: An Explorer Exposition Dump
\nThe Dive Down: Getting Better at Magic: Stan Proposes Practice
\nThe Dive Down, 2: Getting Better at Magic: Dave and Shane Reject Practice
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Timestamps:
\n4:28 - Housekeeping
\n7:30 - The Break Down - Explorer!
\n18:16 - How are we feeling?
\n26:05 - The potential decks of Explorer
\n32:35 - What are we playing in Explorer?
\n34:40 - An artistic diversion
\n37:57 - The Dive Down - How to get better at Magic
\n39:39 - 1) Play more Magic
\n42:20 - 2) Play both sides of the battlefield
\n49:42 - 2a) Do the math
\n1:03:24 - 3) Identify the decks you excel at
\n1:10:38 - 4) Mulligan better
\n1:22:15 - 5) Treat your games as experiments
\n1:41:49 - 6) Get feedback on your play
\n1:48:00 - Some conclusions
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe announcement of Explorer: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/mtg-arena-state-game-streets-new-capenna-2022-04-21
\nPVDDR's Best plays in Magic history: https://pvddr.substack.com/p/the-best-plays-in-the-history-of?s=w
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The full set of New Capenna has been revealed, so on this week's show we complete our run through of all the cards in the set. We go through the families, argue about how good Luxior is going to be (or not be), try to avoid taking an endless detour as we speculate about Giada, and wonder if there's a shadow of a chance that Shadow of Mortality has what it takes. But before that, we spend some time looking through recent Pioneer results with a focus on Izzet Control.
\n\nThe Break Down: It's Back: Two Pioneer Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Dave Proposes Cards
\nThe Dive Down, pt.2: Stan and Shane Reject Cards
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Timestamps:
\n3:45 - Housekeeping
\n7:10 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer challenges are back!
\n10:16 - 4/16 Challenge metagame
\n10:40 - Izzet Control
\n18:05 - Mono-G Ramp
\n22:10 - 4/16 Top 8 and Mono-W Devotion
\n25:55 - Mono-U Spirits
\n28:22 - The 4/17 Challenge
\n34:26 - Some Pioneer thoughts
\n44:08 - A smelly interlude
\n47:21 - The Dive Down begins - more Capenna spoilers!
\n49:17 - Luxior, Giada's Gift
\n57:47 - Endless Detour
\n1:02:58 - Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer
\n1:07:12 - Void Rend
\n1:10:52 - Urabrask, Heretic Praetor
\n1:14:27 - Shadow of Mortality
\n1:20:56 - Patch Up
\n1:23:10 - An Offer You Can't Refuse
\n1:25:10 - Unlicensed Hearse
\n1:29:48 - Giada, Font of Hope
\n1:33:04 - Tenacious Underdog
\n1:35:34 - Titan of Industry
\n1:36:50 - Boon of Safety
\n1:38:50 - Against the Odds: Aven Heartstabber, Tainted Indulgence
\n1:42:53 - What cards we want to cast most?
\n1:46:34 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\n4/16 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12409669#paper
\n4/17 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12409673#paper
\nFaithless Looting's Epic Luxior Thread: https://twitter.com/FaithlessMTG/status/1513621542097334277?s=20&t=O0MEhNqOBhkhOWCMN6D_xA
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The Dive Down visits sunny Texas for SCGCON Dallas! We chat about our very first free preview card from Streets of New Capenna, other highlights from the set so far, and our experiences playing paper Magic all weekend.
\n\nThe Break Down: Move Shane Get Out Da Way
\nThe Dive Down: Cards in Shards
\nThe Wind Down: The Fort Worth Main Street Arts Festival
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Timestamps:
\n3:08 - Housekeeping
\n7:13 - Our preview card - Out of the Way!
\n16:07 - The first batch of New Capenna spoilers
\n16:42 - The common lands
\n18:31 - Sorry, weird audio glitch! An Offer You Can't Refuse
\n23:28 - Strangle
\n26:44 - Grisly Sigil
\n30:04 - Unlucky Witness
\n33:21 - A Little Chat
\n35:31 - Gala Greeters
\n39:39 - Make Disappear/Rob the Archives
\n42:54 - Brokers Charm
\n44:39 - Disciplined Duelist
\n47:15 - Devilish Valet
\n49:49 - Mage's Attendant
\n51:50 - Evolving Door
\n53:32 - Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
\n59:30 - Professional Face-Breaker
\n1:01:31 - Vivien on the Hunt
\n1:03:58 - Elspeth, Resplendent
\n1:06:39 - Cut Your Losses
\n1:08:14 - The Dive Down begins: Our SCGCon Dallas experiences
\n1:09:32 - Shane and Stan talk FAB, Pioneer, and Modern
\n1:28:41 - The Dive Down, cont: Dave talks Modern
\n1:35:22 - Shane and Stan talk Pioneer
\n1:41:15 - The Modern 30k Meta
Links from this week's episode:
\nOur Spoiler video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AymuqSbd80U
\nStreets of New Capenna Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/snc?as=grid&order=spoiled
\nThe Modern 30k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/9196
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The gang is reunited this week for an episode full of new cards, pivot tables, and tournament surprises. We start off with our initial reactions to the new charms spoiled from Streets of New Capenna, and imagine the impact of the complete triome cycle on our favorite formats. Then we go over the results of March's Modern metagame, the Manatraders Modern tournament, and the latest NRG results to analyze the growing and shrinking popularity of various decks in a post-Lurrus metagame. Finally, we wrap up with a Wind Down of our plans for SCG Con Dallas. Turns out... it's technically in Fort Worth!
\nThe Break Down: Greetings from New Capena
\nThe Dive Down: Greetings from Fort Wayne
\nThe Wind Down: Greetings from Dallas/Fort Worth
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Timestamps:
\n4:59 - Housekeeping
\n8:50 - We're getting a preview card!
\n10:59 - Streets of New Capenna early spoilers - The Triomes
\n18:24 - The Charms - Obscura Charm
\n22:35 - Maestro's Charm
\n25:52 - Riveteers Charm
\n29:23 - Cabaretti Charm
\n33:03 - The Dive Down begins - March's metagame report
\n33:30 - The top decks
\n39:48 - The top cards
\n43:22 - The most winning decks
\n46:51 - The NRG Modern 20k
\n48:30 - The NRG meta
\n55:50 - The winrates
\n1:05:55 - The top 8
\n1:10:15 - The Manatraders Modern event swiss meta
\n1:14:20 - The best decks of Manatraders
\n1:17:20 - The top 8
\n1:23:05 - The Wind Down begins - SCGCon Dallas
\n1:28:57 - What we are playing in Dallas
\n1:39:55 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nStreets of New Capenna spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/snc?as=grid&order=spoiled
\nThe NRG tournament: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/8591
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This week Dave got lost in a cave while vacationing, so Dom Harvey joins the show to react and contextualize Wizard's official announcement that the Pro Tour is back! We break down the new competitive organized play systems, how it fits into the casual spike lifestyle, and how it supports Magic's highest level players. We warm up with a break down of some wild weekend top 8s.
\n\nThe Dive Down: Enter the Pyramid
\nThe Dive Down, cont: The Road to Regionals
\nThe Dive Down, cont: The Life of a World Champion
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Timestamps:
\n1:55 - Dom's Housekeeping
\n7:57 - Housekeeping
\n10:32 - The Break Down begins: The Super Qualifier
\n24:07 - The Showcase Challenge
\n40:53 - Cool Decks, Inc - Rakdos Midrange "Blink"
\n43:56 - The Dive Down begins: The Pro Tour is back!
\n51:29 - The World Championship
\n57:21 - Regional Championships and Qualifiers
\n1:17:41 - The Pro Tour itself
\n1:27:24 - How do we feel about this?
\n1:37:58 - What goals can people have now?
\n1:46:42 - What's missing?
\n1:50:22 - Find Dom online and closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nFind Dom online: https://linktr.ee/domhrv
\nThe Return of the Pro Tour!: https://magic.gg/news/return-of-the-pro-tour-faq
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Dave and Stan meet Saffron Olive from MTG Goldfish, and talk about Seth's sleep schedule, his MTG origins, and how the deck names in MTG Goldfish get fixed.
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\nwww.mtggoldfish.com
\nhttps://twitter.com/saffronolive
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This week, Shane's on vacation and Stan's late so Dave gets to do whatever he wants. And what he's decided is to check in with friend of the show and certified shadow scientist Michael Rapp about where everyone's avatar is headed these days. That's right, it's time for a deep dive on (mostly) Grixis Death's Shadow (along with a few other things). But first, we chat about Michael's recent trip to Indy and break down the Modern meta there.
\n\nThe Break Down: Shane’s Gone, Stan’s Late
\nThe Dive Down: Why Street Wraith is a Bad Card Now
\nThe Dive Down (pt.2): Shadow, Prepared Three Ways
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Timestamps:
\n2:45 - Break Down Begins: Michael's Team at SCG Con Indianapolis
\n8:50 - Indianopolis Top 6 Begins
\n24:43 - The Indianapolis Modern Metagame
\n38:50 - How Michael's Team Prepared for Indy
\n44:19 - Dive Down Begins: Michael's Relationship with Death's Shadow
\n50:09 - The Lurrus Era of Shadow
\n56:27 - The First Weekend after Lurrus Was Banned
\n1:02:15 - The "Stock" Grixis Shadow Deck
\n1:15:3 - An Ode to Dress Down
\n1:20:00 - GDS, Still Hard to Play
\n1:25:35 - Murktide Shadow
\n1:33:27 - Mardu Shadow
\n1:37:39 - Jund Shadow
\n1:42:35 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nMichael's Twitter: https://twitter.com/RappaciousOne
\nMichael's recent article on the Card Kingdom Blog (includes write-ups and decklists): https://blog.cardkingdom.com/the-rumors-of-deaths-shadows-demise-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/
\nAll Articles: https://blog.cardkingdom.com/author/mrapp2/
\nDiscord server: https://discord.gg/wYCx6N4
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We are back with the second installment of The People's Meta! With Lurrus gone, and the first big paper tournament happening in the Hunter Burton Memorial Open, there's no time like the present to take a look at what's happening in Modern. We categorize and talk about every deck in a recent 5-0 League dump and break down what's changing in the wide open world of Magic Online. We then take some time to look at the paper metagame of the HBMO, examine what's changing, and take a gander at what did well down in Texas.
\n\nThe Break Down: Dave Breaks Down
\nThe Break Down, pt.2: Dave Dissects a Dump
\nThe Break Down, pt.3: The 2022 HBMO
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Timestamps:
\n7:10 - Housekeeping
\n12:00 - The Break Down - The Post-Lurrus meta
\n14:35 - Death's Shadow decks
\n26:58 - Murktide
\n28:54 - Hammertime
\n30:05 - Blink
\n37:34 - Amulet Titan
\n42:56 - RBx Midrange
\n52:32 - Burn/Prowess
\n56:23 - Control
\n1:00:10 - Cascade
\n1:01:04 - Creativity
\n1:03:10 - Dredge
\n1:06:05 - Hardened Scales
\n1:11:50 - Creature Combo decks
\n1:16:55 - Prowess
\n1:18:50 - Midrange
\n1:21:35 - Humans and others
\n1:25:13 - Tron and others
\n1:31:55 - Combo junk drawer
\n1:34:55 - Other oddities
\n1:38:15 - Mono-Red Stuff
\n1:42:15 - The Hunter Burton Memorial Open
\n1:43:45 - The HBMO meta
\n1:47:10 - The Day 2 meta
\n1:50:30 - The Top 8
\n1:54:03 - What did we learn?
\n1:59:49 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe 3/11 Deck Dump: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-league-2022-03-11#paper
\nThe Hunter Burton Memorial Open: https://hunterburtonmemorialopen.com/
\nDecklists and standings from HBMO: https://www.hbpairings.com/
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Shane and Stan sit down with the newly crowned Neon Dynasty Set Champion, Eli Kassis! We talk about Eli's deck selection and preparation for the Set Championship, the role of a testing team, and more.
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\nhttps://twitter.com/Eli_Kassis
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Well they finally went and did it. Wizards of the Coast (kinda) surprised the entire Magic Non-Rotating Format World by sending everyone's favorite Nightmare Cat back to her den to think about what's she's done. In case that previous sentence isn't clear, I'm trying to say that they banned Lurrus of the Dream-Den in Modern and Pioneer. After (tearfully) throwing away an entire month of episodes we had planned out before this news, the three friends gather their composure and do what you pay (or don't pay) them to do — make predicitions about what will happen in Magic and just generally react to the news. Stan seems excited for Murktide. Dave seems excited for Obosh. Shane seems excited for things to stay mostly the same.
\n\nThe Break Down: What Happened
\nThe Dive Down: What We Think Will Happen
\nThe Wind Down: What We Hope Will Happen
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Timestamps:
\n4:48 - Housekeeping
\n7:39 - The Break Down - Bye Bye Lurrus
\n8:43 - The rationales of the banning
\n22:10 - Did this go far enough?
\n31:24 - What's the impact of the Lurrus ban?
\n40:02 - Some hot takes
\n42:35 - A smelly diversion
\n45:50 - Stan's Monthly Meta Report
\n54:28 - The impact of losing Lurrus for the best decks
\n1:17:36 - The month-to-month change since Jan
\n1:19:58 - What the loss of Lurrus unlocks - Liliana(s)
\n1:25:56 - Seasoned Pyromancer
\n1:28:20 - Bedlam Reveler
\n1:30:09 - Lightning Skelemental
\n1:31:38 - Nettlecyst
\n1:32:40 - Asmo
\n1:33:43 - Plague Engineer
\n1:34:59 - Ranger-Captain of Eos
\n1:38:03 - Showdown of the Skalds
\n1:39:03 - Grist
\n1:39:41 - General Ferrous Rockerick
\n1:40:18 - What does Jund look like now?
\n1:43:14 - Dark Confidant
\n1:44:21 - Our final thoughts
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/march-7-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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It's been a trying week. We needed a break. So this week, we're going to keep it positive by taking some time to discuss what we've been enjoying in Magic and beyond. It's a bit of a grab bag — we talk about the MOCS, Slogurk, Creativity, Oni-Cult, paper magic, hanging with Stan, hanging with Shane, and more. Stan gets a trophy. Dave loses creatively. Shane finds a deck he thinks is cool.
\n\nWe'll also be donating the proceeds of this week's episode to Trans Lifeline (https://translifeline.org/) and the UN Refugee Agency (https://www.unhcr.org/).
\n\nThe Break Down: Good Things in MOCS
\nThe Dive Down: Good Things in Modern
\nThe Dive Down, pt2: Good Things in Magic
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Timestamps:
\n5:39 - Housekeeping
\n9:41 - The Break Down: The MOCS
\n15:29 - What makes GDS so good?
\n21:36 - The power of Lurrus
\n29:29 - Saturday's Modern Challenge
\n34:12 - The top 8
\n38:40 - The Super Qualifier top 8
\n42:40 - Are we banning Lurrus?
\n46:00 - A brief diversion
\n48:52 - The Dive Down begins - Stan likes Standard
\n54:10 - Dave plays Limited
\n1:00:31 - A mini deck tech on Aspiringspike's Rakdos Anvil in Modern
\n1:09:41 - Other Aspiringspike thoughts on Modern
\n1:11:20 - Stan 5-0's with Temur Slogurk
\n1:19:38 - Dave playing Indominatable Creativity
\n1:28:10 - Stan getting better at Magic
\n1:35:25 - Non-Magic things that bring us joy
\n1:43:40 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe MOCS: https://magic.gg/events/2021-magic-online-champions-showcase-season-3
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12392345#paper
\nThe PTQ: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-super-qualifier-12392317#paper
\nSpike's Oni-Cult VOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jlf1Ay6bWI&ab_channel=Aspiringspike
\nStan's Slogurk Deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4647667#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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Turns out that sleevin' neon is so fun we had to do it for a second week. So here it is — three or four or maybe more new decks that feature cards from Neon Dynasty including Modern Assault Loam with Boseiju (and Slogurk!), Modern Death & Taxes with Boseiju, Pioneer Auras with Light-Paws, and Pioneer Burn with Reinforced Ronin. But before we state them and rate them, we first go through last weekend's Modern Showcase Challenge and discover many shades of innovation in... red... and... white? Dave has boeuf sweats. Stan believes it's slime time now. Shane plays a deck he hates... again.
\n\nThe Break Down: A Spicy Showcase
\nThe Dive Down: Boseiju Loam, Boseiju Taxes, Light-Paws, Pio Burn, and Others
\nThe Wind Down: 5 Minutes about Shane and Flesh and Blood
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Timestamps:
\n3:32 - Housekeeping
\n6:40 - The Break Down: Modern Challenge Funtime
\n21:03 - The top 8
\n31:10 - A small diversion
\n34:50 - The Dive Down begins: S/B/H, Cool Cards Ed.
\n36:45 - Stan on Slogurk Oozing time
\n51:10 - Stan on Liquimetal Ponza
\n54:13 - Shane on Selesnya Taxes ft. Yorion
\n1:11:51 - Dave on Light-Paws Auras
\n1:28:35 - Shane on Shrapnel Blast Burn
\n1:34:35 - Shane's Flesh and Blood ProQuest
\n1:41:25 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nModern Showcase Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-showcase-challenge-2022-02-20
\nTemur Slogurk: Assault Loam: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4614095#paper
\nTemur Liquidmetal Ponza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4616201#paper
\nSelesnya Taxes: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4621930#paper
\nLight-Paws Auras: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4620131#paper and https://twitter.com/masoneclark/status/1493478580940156928?s=20&t=UEobUZhWlLmEQeVdwxQbZQ
\nRonin Burn: https://twitter.com/FelixSloo/status/1492313643962281989?t=blBSVeie85VXmdWpiRgErw&s=19
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Turns out that Neon Dynasty may have had a little more impact on our formats than we originally anticipated. The reason why? Why, it's (mostly) thanks to Magic's favorite no-downside card type: Artifacts. Tune in as we try out builds of Urzaful/Urzaless Affinity and UW Hammer in Modern, Vehicle Tribal in Historic, and a whole new Ensoul Artifact build in Pioneer. But first, we take a look across 3 high level Modern MTGO events from the weekend. Dave asks for forgiveness. Shane withholds a harsh judgement. Stan gets chipped.
\n\nThe Break Down: Not many NEO cards in the Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: NEO cards in Leagues: Vehicles, Affinity, and Ensoul
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Stan's New Love: 4-0in' Prelims
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Timestamps:
\n2:56 - Housekeeping
\n7:30 - The Break Down begins - Saturday's Challenge with NEW cards!
\n18:13 - The Sunday Challenge
\n25:25 - The Modern PTQ
\n30:25 - Some tournament takeaways
\n35:34 - A fun diversion
\n38:10 - The Dive Down begins - S/B/H Artifacts Ed.
\n40:20 - Shane with Historic Vehicles
\n57:02 - Dave on Modern Affinity
\n1:09:44 - Dave on Modern Vehicles
\n1:18:04 - Stan on Azorius Hammertime
\n1:31:34 - Stan on Ensoul Artifact
\n1:40:55 - Oni-Cult Anvil, briefly
\n1:43:15 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12387446#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12387452#paper
\nSunday's PTQ: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-premier-12387425#paper
\nHistoric Vehicles: https://twitter.com/jaredfarris/status/1491972071404052481?s=20&t=ITEHIewCd0CHmRVSBee6Xg
\nSpike's Consulate Dreadnaught Affinity: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/ou3s6zIwy
\nSpiderSpace Affinity: https://twitter.com/SpiderSpaceMTG/status/1492623539773394944?s=20&t=qGj6nPhmn6AhDrLdDAknNw
\nAzorius Hammertime: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4613330#paper
\nPioneer Ensoul Artifact: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4614011#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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In the epic conclusion of our Neon Dynasty picks to click, we scan the complete set spoiler and shout out our favorite dragon, counterspell, samurai, and skyturtle. Before that, we kick off the show with break down of January's Modern MTGO metagame with another installment of the monthly report, and wrap up with a brief love letter to Legacy.
\n\nThe Break Down: Monthly Modern Metagame: January
\nThe Dive Down: Mode Cards Than You Could Ever Reconfigure
\nThe Wind Down: Stan's New Love: Legacy
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Timestamps:
\n4:19 - Housekeeping
\n9:00 - The Break Down: The January Meta Breakdown
\n23:40 - The most popular cards of January
\n30:46 - The Dive Down: Neon Dynasty spoilers!
\n32:43 - Blade of the Oni
\n36:52 - Eater of Virtue
\n38:34 - Mnemonic Sphere
\n41:39 - March of Burgeoning Life
\n44:48 - Colossal Skyturtle/Mirrorshell Crab
\n46:41 - Otawara, Soaring City
\n49:21 - Atsushi, the Blazing Sky
\n52:45 - Mukotai Soulripper
\n54:44 - Invoke the Ancients
\n56:44 - Reinforced Ronin
\n1:00:25 - Hidetsugu Consumes All
\n1:05:43 - Experimental Synthesizer
\n1:08:08 - Enthusiastic Mechanaut
\n1:09:40 - Mech Hanger/Greasefang, Okiba Boss
\n1:13:09 - March of Wretched Sorrow
\n1:14:30 - Containment Construct
\n1:18:11 - Silverfur Master
\n1:19:45 - Light-Paws, Emperor's Voice
\n1:22:42 - March of Swirling Mist
\n1:25:27 - Mechtitan Core
\n1:27:52 - Explosive Singularity
\n1:30:12 - Generous Visitor
\n1:31:20 - Disruption Protocol
\n1:33:56 - Eiganjo, Seat of the Empire/Takenuma, Abandoned Mire
\n1:38:09 - What are we most excited to play with?
\n1:40:55 - The Wind Down: Stan <3 Legacy
\n1:46:20 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nFull spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/neo?as=grid
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's time to head back to Kamigawa in the latest set... our Neon Destiny. I mean Density. I mean Dynasty. We take a look at cards from the first batch of spoilers we think are good in Modern, Historic, Pioneer, or just plain good! Before that, we break down the ManaTraders January Pioneer tournament.
\n\nIntro: Green Socks Filled With Money
\nThe Break Down: Closing the Book on Pioneer
\nThe Dive Down: You're My Density
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Timestamps:
\n2:23 - Housekeeping
\n8:02 - The Break Down - Manatraders Pioneer January!
\n17:32 - The Top 8 and our thoughts on Pio
\n28:00 - The Dive Down begins - the mechanics of Kamigawa
\n39:07 - Let's talk cards! Boseju, Who Endures
\n50:28 - Sokenzan, Crucible of Defiance
\n53:00 - Lion Sash
\n59:40 - The Reality Chip
\n1:04:26 - The Wandering Emperor
\n1:12:08 - Invoke Calamity
\n1:16:06 - March of Otherworldly Light
\n1:20:53 - Azusa's Many Journeys
\n1:23:58 - Secluded Courtyard
\n1:26:10 - Hotshot Mechanic
\n1:27:33 - "Procession of Joy"
\n1:31:19 - Lizard Blades
\n1:32:28 - Life of Toshiro Umezawa
\n1:35:11 - Mooncircuit Hacker
\n1:36:40 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe decks and metagame of the ManaTraders Pioneer Tournament: https://pastebin.com/A6P4Dzs9
\nThe Mechanics of Neon Dynasty: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/kamigawa-neon-dynasty-mechanics-2022-01-27
\nNeon Dynasty spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/neo?order=set&as=grid
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With Dave off this week, we are joined by streamer, former guest, and co-host of Mishra's Babble, SpiderSpace! In the Break Down we talk about the (lack of) bans in Modern, then dive deep into the Modern Super Qualifier and SpiderSpace's second place finish. We then head into the Dive Down to discuss our recent play experiences, and in the Wind Down talk about the somber announcement from SCG of their ceasing their competitive content coverage.
\n\nThe Break Down: Companions Live On
\nThe Dive Down: And Spider Made the Finals!
\nThe Wind Down: But Star City Though...
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Timestamps:
\n4:34 - Housekeeping
\n7:20 - The Break Down begins - No bans in Modern!
\n17:16 - Analyzing the WOTC tea leaves
\n28:58 - Potential future unbannings
\n32:40 - What do we want unbanned?
\n39:25 - Saturday's Modern Showcase Challenge, ft Spiderspace!
\n1:02:21 - Cool Decks, Inc - Boros Brought Back
\n1:05:51 - The Dive Down begins - Spiderspace's lamenting
\n1:17:55 - Stan's smashing
\n1:23:30 - Shane's losing
\n1:30:45 - The Wind Down: But Star City Though...
Links from this week's episode:
\nJanuary 25th B&R Announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/january-25-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\nFind Gabe on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SpiderSpaceMTG
\nSaturday's Super Qualifier: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12377842#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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Stan and Dave sit down with the wonderful Carolyn Kavanagh to talk about the latest season of the VML, how we make new friends as adults, and which tree-dwelling mammal is the best animal of all. We also check in on Carolyn's current relationship with Modern and Mono-Green Tron.
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Links from this week's episode:
\nvmlmtg.com
\nhttps://twitter.com/VMLMTG
\nhttps://twitter.com/MightyLinguine
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The heat is on in Pioneer town. Is the format back from the dead? Seems like everyone is talking about it, and it’s this month’s format for the Manatraders monthly tournament series. So we’ve invited the incredibly wise and skilled Dom Harvey to share his insights and analysis of Pioneer’s most popular decks, including Jeskai Ascendancy, Izzet Phoenix, Boros Heroic, Lotus Field, and more.
\n\nThe Dive Down, pt1: No Break Down This Week!
\nThe Dive Down, pt2: Because the Whole Ep is Just Decks!
\nThe Dive Down, pt3: Phoenix, Ascendancy, Heroic, Chonks, and More!
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Timestamps:
\n4:24 - Housekeeping
\n9:10 - The Dive Down begins - Pioneer Time!
\n11:30 - Izzet Phoenix
\n25:36 - Jeskai Ascendancy
\n36:13 - Boros Heroic
\n46:40 - Lotus Field
\n55:57 - Chonk-ish Red
\n1:06:07 - Jund Food
\n1:13:15 - Rakdos Midrange
\n1:19:25 - Azorius Control
\n1:25:41 - What is Pioneer about?
\n1:47:20 - Dom on Dom
\n1:53:29 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nDom's Twitter: https://twitter.com/dominharvia?lang=en
\nDom's linktree: https://linktr.ee/domhrv
\nThe top decks of Pioneer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/pioneer#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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This one goes out to the one I Yawg. It's been a long time coming, but it's finally time for us to sling some wither counters and get undying with everyone's favorite physician, Yawgmoth. Tune in to hear us fumble around with triggers, stacking, and life totals, and to hear Shane give his tepid approval to a deck beloved by millions. Stan's approval is even more tepid. Dave claims he'd rather be playing Titan (is that a bit?). Before we get into all this though, we go over one of this weekend's Modern Challenges and talk about the weirdness that is Jund Reclaimer and a few other things. Thanks for tuning in, #yawgsqwad!
\n\nThe Break Down: They Reclaim Sagas Now Don't They?
\nThe Dive Down: -1 for You, -1 for Me
\nThe Dive Down, pt.2: For the Yawg Stans but Not for Our Stan
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Timestamps:
\n3:00 - Housekeeping
\n4:48 - Barrister and Mann Promo Time
\n6:20 - The Break Down - The Sunday Challenge
\n18:08 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n27:26 - The Dive Down Begins - Yawgmoth!
\n30:00 - Our history with Yawg
\n32:05 - The Yawgmoth combo
\n37:15 - Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
\n42:52 - The Undying creatures
\n48:12 - The mana dorks
\n54:13 - The tutors
\n58:07 - Grist, the Hunger Tide
\n1:05:15 - Sideboard options
\n1:11:41 - Strategic considerations and playing with Yawgmoth
\n1:20:34 - Keeps and mulls
\n1:26:45 - Life-total management
\n1:29:00 - Matchups
\n1:35:20 - Proliferating
\n1:37:45 - Strengths and weaknesses of Yawgmoth
\n1:42:16 - Our bottom line on Yawg
Links from this week's episode:
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12372530#paper
\nDemonicTutors Yawg list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4541927#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's 2022, and we're back with an episode that looks forward to the new year. We asked for listeners to submit their 2022 goals via audio and text, and everyone delivered! We give our thoughts and feedback on the goals of The Nation, and also discuss our own. Before that, we go over Stan's December 2021 Modern summary and the latest Modern Challenges. Here's to 2022!
\n\nThe Break Down: December Modern Check-In
\nThe Dive Down: Your Goals are Our Goals
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Timestamps:
\n4:20 - Housekeeping
\n7:27 - A Special Barrister and Mann announcement! - THEDIVEDOWN2022
\n13:16 - The Break Down begins - The December Recap
\n23:16 - Saturday's Challenge
\n30:24 - Saturday's Top 8
\n36:40 - Sunday's Top 8
\n42:08 - The Dive Down begins - The goals of the Nation
\n44:00 - Avoiding mistakes
\n57:04 - Simplification and moderation
\n1:14:45 - Diving in deeper and playing more
\n1:23:55 - Our playing goals in 2022
\n1:28:51 - Winning with a brew
\n1:31:35 - Performance-based goals
\n1:38:50 - Do we have any goals for new formats on The Dive Down?
\n1:48:42 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12367813#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12367819#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The end of 2021 is upon us, which means it's time for our annual year in review episode! And this time, we've brought a friend, our reliable unofficial fourth co-host, Aspiringspike. We first talk about the biggest releases, bannings, and changes in 2021 for Modern and Historic, then head into the awards show to hand out this year's Diveys. We talk about our favorite cards, decks, and events of the year, then discuss our goals for 2022. Thanks to all of you for another great year of The Dive Down!
\n\nThe Break Down: A Whole Year (in Order!)
\nThe Dive Down: Taking and Taking and Taking
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Timestamps:
\n5:43 - Housekeeping
\n6:57 - The Break Down - 2021 begins!
\n13:38 - Kaldheim, Oops, all Valkis, and some bans
\n22:52 - Historic Anthology 4 and Time Spiral Remastered
\n24:30 - April update, Strixhaven, and the Mystical Archives
\n33:51 - Modern before and after Modern Horizons 2
\n43:48 - July and Adventures in the Forgotten Realms
\n49:20 - Jumpstart: Historic Horizons
\n52:24 - Modern in October and Innistrad: Midnight Hunt
\n1:00:21 - December begins and the year ends
\n1:04:55 - The Dive Down begings - The 2021 Awards Show!
\n1:05:32 - The Best Card of the Year
\n1:10:53 - The Non-2021 Card of the Year
\n1:12:21 - Supporting Card of the Year
\n1:15:11 - Overhyped Card of the Year
\n1:20:05 - Overperformer of the Year
\n1:21:57 - The Deck of the Year
\n1:25:53 - Most Hated Deck of the Year
\n1:27:52 - In Memoriam
\n1:32:36 - Magic Experience of the Year
\n1:37:13 - The Best WOTC Decision of the Year
\n1:40:01 - #mtgfinance of the Year
\n1:40:47 - Our 2022 Goals
\n1:46:13 - The Best Guest(s) of the Year and Thanks
\n1:48:40 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nWatch Aspiringspike on twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nFind Spike on twitter: https://twitter.com/Aspiringspike
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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In the second installment of We Did It For Science, we explore... gulp... Amulet Titan. Yes, our most hated card goes through our rigorous experimental testing regimen. We go over what these decks are about, gameplans, threats, tips & tricks, and, most importantly, just how much we still hate Primeval Titan. Prior to that, we dive into the metagame of the latest Modern Showcase Challenge.
\n\nThe Break Down: A Showcase Challenge
\nThe Dive Down: No Idea How to Play This Deck
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Look at This Cool Screenshot
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Timestamps:
\n4:57 - Housekeeping
\n7:05 - The Break Down - The Milwaukee NRG Modern Trial
\n9:40 - The Saturday Modern Showcase Challenge meta
\n16:13 - The Showcase top 8
\n27:30 - The Dive Down begins - We Did it For Science: Titan Edition
\n34:30 - What are Titan decks all about?
\n55:20 - Keep or mulls?
\n59:26 - The land sequencing conundrum
\n1:09:24 - Gameplans with Amulet Titan
\n1:18:16 - The non-Titan threats
\n1:26:18 - Tips & tricks
\n1:35:04 - Why is Amulet resurging?
\n1:40:55 - Would we repeat the science experiment?
\n1:45:13 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe December 11th Showcase Challenge Bamzing post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/retyjd/modern_showcase_challenge_3_results_dec_11_2021/
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's another in our awesome series of top-tier Patreon request episodes, as we take on Mickey S's (no, the other Mickey S) challenge to explore the decks and metagame of best-of-one Historic on Arena. We played a bunch of fun decks and faced off against even more, and have a lot of thoughts on the format. Prior to that, we break down the Innistrad Set Championship and go over the announcement of Alchemy and its impact on Historic, and perhaps all of Magic. Thanks again, Mickey!
\n\nThe Break Down: Top 8s All Around
\nThe Dive Down: Alchemical Explanations
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Best of One, Best of All
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Timestamps:
\n5:15 - Housekeeping
\n6:32 - Dave and Stan top 8 a store championship!
\n15:56 - Alchemy... is here
\n22:55 - The positives
\n32:14 - Kinda moving into the negatives here
\n41:05 - Some final takes
\n48:05 - The Dive Down begins - the Innistrad Set Championship
\n52:45 - The Top 8
\n57:17 - Best-of-One Historic - what's the difference?
\n1:02:00 - The decks of BO1 Historic - Heliod Lifegain
\n1:06:17 - Elves
\n1:08:53 - Gruul Shamans
\n1:10:27 - Izzet Phoenix
\n1:17:35 - Abzan Auras
\n1:21:24 - Azorius Auras
\n1:25:02 - Selesnya Humans
\n1:27:45 - Mono-W Humans
\n1:32:50 - Chonky Red
\n1:34:07 - Mono-Red Torbran
\n1:41:28 - The rest of the BO1 metagame
\n1:46:55 - Our thoughts on BO1
\n1:53:30 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Arena State of the Game article: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/mtg-arena-state-game-alchemy-2021-12-02
\nIntroducing Alchemy: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/introducing-alchemy-new-way-play-mtg-arena-2021-12-02
\nThe Innistrad Championship: https://magic.gg/events/innistrad-championship
\nThe Untapped.gg Historic tier list: https://mtga.untapped.gg/meta/tierlist?format=historic
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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In this latest installment in our series of bonus eps, Shane is joined by the hosts of the videogame and culture podcast BAD END, Josh Calixto and Kyle Kukshtel. They talk about BAD END and the Superculture network, their thoughts on what makes games and Magic work, and, most importantly, what their least favorite video games are. It's a great conversation, and we hope you like it!
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Links from this week's episode:
\nBAD END: https://www.badendpodcast.com/
\nBAD END on Twitter: https://twitter.com/badendpodcast
\nJosh: https://twitter.com/HiThereJosh
\nKyle: https://twitter.com/kkukshtel
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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We come to you LIVE (well, sorta) from the recent MTG Las Vegas event, where we tapped some cards, hung out with friends, and talked to some big name players! We talked to some current and future household names about Modern, the decks they brought, and their tournament experiences. Thanks to our old and new friends Joe Lossett, Tannon Grace, Yamakiller, Aspiringspike, Sam Pardee, Reid Duke, Eli Loveman, Michael Rapp, and top 8 finishers Joel Lapray, Levi Sprung, and Steve Pearlman for the fun and insightful conversations!
\n\nThe Dive Down: Shane & Stan went to Vegas!
\nThe Dive Down, cont: For some reason Dave is here too!
\nThe Dive Down, cont again: More interviews than you can shake your deck at!
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Timestamps:
\n3:20 - Housekeeping
\n6:17 - MtG Las Vegas discussion begins
\n8:18 - Shane & Stan live from Vegas
\n21:47 - Discussing the overall event
\n28:26 - Joe Lossett talks 4-Color Control
\n36:15 - Tannon Grace chats... magic!
\n41:40 - Yamakiller talks Grixis Shadow
\n49:28 - Aspiringspike talks Rakdos Lurrus
\n58:52 - Sam Pardee on 4C Elementals
\n1:06:16 - Reid Duke talks Yawgmoth
\n1:11:53 - Stan talks about his tournament
\n1:14:28 - Eli Loveman on Hammertime
\n1:20:27 - Michael Rapp on Grixis Shadow
\n1:26:29 - Top seed Joel Lapray on Hardened Scales
\n1:32:06 - Talking the top 8 decks
\n1:39:49 - Top 8 finisher Levi Sprung
\n1:48:05 - Top 2 finisher Steve Pearlman
\n1:56:45 - Our takes on Modern after Vegas
\n1:59:55 - Thanks and closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nMTG top 8 lists: https://twitter.com/theMMcast/status/1462223403914387458
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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It's episode 150!! In our final Road to Las Vegas segment, we are joined by SCG grinder, former host of Turn One Thoughtseize, and all around great guy Zach Allen. We first talk over the weekend's Challenges, then head into The Dive Down to talk about the decks of Modern, leveling up as a player, playing in a big tournament, why Aether Gust is the best card in Modern, and more. It's a can't-miss episode!
\n\nThe Break Down: A Huge Challenge
\nThe Dive Down: Preparation Makes Perfect
\nThe Dive Down, cont: The End of the Road
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Timestamps:
\n4:18 - Housekeeping
\n9:10 - The Saturday Challenge metagame
\n19:54 - The Top 8
\n39:24 - The Sunday Challenge Top 8
\n43:30 - The Dive Down begins - Zach's competitive past
\n47:08 - How Zach leveled up
\n57:15 - What is Modern about right now?
\n1:03:34 - Zach's thoughts on the best decks
\n1:30:11 - Do paper events lag behind MTGO?
\n1:35:35 - Performing your best at an event
\n1:40:41 - What does it take to win?
\n1:42:10 - Zach's advice on Modern
\n1:45:05 - Stan and Zach talk Murktide
\n1:51:30 - Where to find Zach and closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nFind Zach on Twitter: https://twitter.com/a22en
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12355688#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12355715#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week the three friends go through the second half of spoilers from Crimson Vow and consider which ones they'd marry for Modern (and other formats). But first, friend of the pod Zach Ryl (aka Manacymbal) stops by to talk us through his Modern Challenge Victory on Saturday, November 6.
\n\nThe Break Down: A Victorious Challenger
\nThe Dive Down: Crimson Vow — More 1 Mana Spells Than We Thought!
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Timestamps:
\n4:14 - Housekeeping
\n6:20 - The Break Down with ManaCymbal
\n7:24 - Saturday's Modern Challenge
\n37:17 - ManaCymbal talks his first place finish with 4C Creativity
\n1:01:05 - The Dive Down begins
\n1:02:35 - Geralf, Visionary Stitcher
\n1:04:22 - End the Festivities
\n1:06:16 - Ancestral Anger
\n1:10:30 - Blood Fountain
\n1:12:10 - Voldaren Epicure
\n1:14:09 - Wash Away
\n1:17:58 - Eruth, Tormented Prophet
\n1:22:28 - Cradle of Safety
\n1:24:36 - Stormchaser Drake
\n1:26:33 - Curse of Hospitality
\n1:28:17 - Cemetery Prowler
\n1:31:35 - Cemetery Illuminator
\n1:34:48 - Dreamshackle Geist
\n1:37:05 - Inspired Idea
\n1:39:31 - Faithbound Judge
\n1:41:45 - Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
\n1:42:40 - Ascendant Packleader
\n1:43:30 - Lantern of the Lost
\n1:46:11 - Reckless Impulse
\n1:49:24 - Our favorite cards
\n1:51:10 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday Modern Challenge - https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/qosb9r/saturday_modern_challenge_results_nov_6_2021/
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The title says it all! We first talk the MOCS, the SCG Invitational, and some Modern Challenges to try to wrap our head around the Modern meta. Then Shane makes up for being off last week with a discussion of Esper Reanimator. Then we go over the first batch of Crimson Vow spoilers and talk about some Cool Cards, Inc.
\n\nThe Break Down: Several Events
\nThe Dive Down: Esper Reanimator
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Crimson Vow Spoilers
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Timestamps:
\n3:32 - Housekeeping
\n7:25 - The Break Down - A lot of events
\n8:12 - The MOCS
\n18:03 - The SCG Invitational
\n29:30 - Saturday's Challenge
\n38:30 - Sunday's Challenge
\n39:19 - Takeaways from these events
\n44:18 - The Dive Down begins - Shane on Esper Reanimator
\n51:53 - What Esper Reanimator is doing well
\n54:32 - What it isn't doing as well
\n1:06:00 - The bottom line on Reanimator
\n1:10:46 - The mechanics of Crimson Vow
\n1:19:22 - The cards begin - Manaform Hellkite
\n1:22:06 - Path of Peril
\n1:24:53 - Cemetery Protector
\n1:27:11 - Chandra, Dressed to Kill
\n1:31:01 - Dig Up
\n1:31:50 - Geist Lightsnare
\n1:34:40 - "Bedsheet Elemental"
\n1:36:04 - Dread Fugue
\n1:38:18 - Change of Fortune
\n1:40:01 - Grolnok, the Omnivore
\n1:41:07 - Demonic Bargain
\n1:43:30 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe MOCS: https://magic.gg/decklists/2021-magic-online-champions-showcase-season-2-modern-decklists
\nRandy's Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmJkCX2mpIoVFd8TTwqE44LARRNevUeSSqJUdAjAV4s/edit#gid=0
\nSCG Top 8 Decks: https://old.starcitygames.com/decks/results/format/28/event_ID/21/start_date/31-10-2021/end_date/31-10-2021/start/1/finish/8/w_perc/0/g_perc/0/r_perc/0/b_perc/0/u_perc/0/a_perc/0/order_1/finish/limit/25/start_num/0/
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12351480#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12351484#paper
\nEsper Reanimator: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/IfleifZ9n
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Streamer, musician, podcaster, and ever-present Magic personality Zach Ryl, aka Manacymbal, joins Stan to talk about the Indomitable Creativity deck in Modern, content creation, and music! Recorded on October 7th.
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Links from this week's episode:
\nSerum Visions Podcast: https://serumvisions.podbean.com/
\nMTG Parody Songs: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2_KjuSPkJvLbbBstdPc2IVh1YSemmjQv
\nThis Week in Modern: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2_KjuSPkJvLHdr51QgBsjKAevQz5U2bg
\nTwitch: https://www.twitch.com/manacymbal
\n4C Creativity deck talk and tournament report: https://youtu.be/Ou7X5IjzVIw
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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Shane's gone so Stan and Dave are finally free to do whatever they want. And what they want to do is play too many colors and evoke some elementals! At least that's what they thought they wanted to do — we think? That's right, for the third in our Road to Vegas series we tackle the element... als. But first enjoy a tour of one of last week's Modern Challenges and a live paper tournament from NRG. Stan talks about cool things. Dave reminisces about when he seemed cool. Somewhere, Shane is being cool.
\n\nUnnecessary Anecdote: The Beach Boys!
\nThe Break Down: A Challenge and Some NRG
\nThe Dive Down: Four Arms to Hold You Still
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Timestamps:
\n7:12 - Housekeeping
\n10:13 - The Break Down - A Modern Challenge
\n21:31 - The Nerd Rage Gaming paper event
\n30:10 - The Dive Down - The Road To Vegas pt 3
\n34:04 - Some powerful Modern cards
\n46:00 - Stan on 4-Color YoRhinos and Temur Rhinos
\n1:00:00 - The matchups
\n1:12:05 - Dave on 4-Color Elementals
\n1:18:40 - The matchups
\n1:42:15 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-10-24?xd34
\nBamzing's Post About Same: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/qew011/saturday_modern_challenge_results_oct_23_2021/
\nNRG Modern on MTGMelee: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/7504
\n4c Yorhinos: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4383735#paper
\n4c Elementals: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4363826#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week we dive into part two of our series in our anticipation of the return to paper Magic — The Road to Vegas. Dave, Stan, and Shane go through the ins and outs of the next tier of Modern's meta. We're looking at two boomer decks — Jund (secretly zoomer?) and UW Control — and one newmer deck in Hammer. Find out which one we think is best positioned for MTG Vegas. Before that we talk about the latest Historic changes, and go through the results of one of last week's MTGO Modern PTQs. Stan controls. Shane hammers. Dave ionizes.
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern Super Showcase WKQ
\nThe Dive Down: Boomer Decks
\nThe Wind Down: The Short List
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Timestamps:
\n3:33 - Housekeeping
\n5:36 - Historic Bannings!
\n10:29 - Historic digital only card changes!
\n16:13 - The Modern PTQ Top 16 analysis
\n25:56 - The PTQ meta
\n34:18 - The Dive Down begins: The Road to Vegas vol.2
\n36:20 - Dave on Jund Saga
\n1:05:52 - Stan on Azorius Control
\n1:29:18 - Shane on Hammertime
\n1:51:35 - What's on our decks to play shortlist?
Links from this week's episode:
\nModern PTQ Results: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-premier-2021-10-16?xd2
\nMoonblade Deck: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-10-17?xd2#talisker_st_place
\nJund Saga: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4325030#paper
\nUW Control: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-premier-2021-10-16
\nHammer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4109042#paper
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This week's ep is a Patreon request by one of the first citizens of The Dive Down Nation - KilgoreTrout, aka Jason! He asked us to do a Q&A episode, and to make it even more fun we brought in some new technology to get audio submissions. We got questions from citizens around the world about Magic, collecting, and podcasting - so thanks to everyone who got involved! And special thanks to Jason for being a true citizen for so long!
\n\nThe Break Down: Still Had to Get A Challenge In
\nThe Dive Down: Hear Our Voices, Hear Your Voices
\nThe Dive Down, pt2: Call Me Maybe
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Timestamps:
\n4:06 - Housekeeping
\n6:49 - The Break Down - More Modern Meta
\n21:00 - Sunday's Top 8
\n25:55 - The Dive Down begins - Questions... AND ANSWERS!
\n27:18 - Inside the Grinder's Studio
\n38:53 - What are we most excited about for CFB Vegas?
\n41:53 - How to play 8+ rounds of Magic?
\n47:45 - What are our favorite foils?
\n50:25 - What is the best Limited set of all time?
\n55:34 - What Modern Horizons cards would be safe in Standard?
\n1:02:26 - What does "bolting the bird" really mean anymore?
\n1:06:40 - How do we value our collections?
\n1:15:20 - How do we see ourselves engaging with Magic over the rest of our lives?
\n1:18:07 - How do we get the most bang for our buck in Magic?
\n1:28:02 - What cards do we want unbanned in Modern?
\n1:33:54 - What are our favorite topdecks?
\n1:37:23 - What decks would we buy first?
\n1:39:50 - What decks would we not play in paper?
\n1:41:38 - What would we be podcasting about if it wasn't Magic?
\n1:47:35 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12345852#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12345858#paper
\nDemonicTutor's Yawgmoth VOD: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1172755666
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In the first episode of a new miniseries (???), Stan and Shane talk about their experiences testing two of the top decks in the format in their preparation for the CFB Vegas event in November. How do Izzet Murktide and Boros Burn perform right now? Why are they good, and what might be their fatal flaws? Only one way to find out!
\n\nThe Break Down: Dave's Not Here, Man
\nThe Break Down, cont: Some Good Good Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Matchups and Putdowns
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Timestamps:
\n3:07 - Housekeeping
\n6:16 - The Break Down begins
\n15:00 - Sunday's Challenge
\n21:30 - What these Challenges tell us
\n25:04 - Cool Deck(s), Inc.
\n27:35 - The Dive Down begins - The Road to Vegas
\n34:41 - Stan on Izzet Murktide
\n38:44 - Why has Murktide been successful, and how is it positioned right now?
\n42:32 - Murktide's matchups
\n1:01:13 - Some final thoughts on Murktide
\n1:06:40 - Shane on Boros Burn
\n1:07:31 - What's up with Burn?
\n1:10:32 - Burn's matchups
\n1:32:10 - Some thoughts on Burn
\n1:40:46 - What to try next?
\n1:43:00 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12344224#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12344230#paper
\nMardu Midrange: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4342367#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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On this week's episode Shane and Dave explore the depths of Modern in what we are calling.... "The People's Meta." We look at every deck from a recent 5-0 League dump to discuss their place in the metagame, what makes them interesting, and how they are implementing new cards and strategies. Before that, we go through Saturday's Showcase Challenge to look at what people are bringing to the top tournaments.
\n\nThe Break Down: Showcasing Modern
\nThe Dive Down: Mainstreams and Roguestreams
\nThe Dive Down, cont: More. Patron. Shoutouts.
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Timestamps:
\n3:25 - Housekeeping
\n5:00 - The Break Down - Saturday's Modern Showcase Challenge
\n14:30 - The Showcase top 8
\n21:12 - The Dive Down beings - The People's Meta
\n30:19 - The Current Mainstream
\n55:37 - The Past Mainstream
\n1:26:05 - The Upcoming Rogues
\n1:48:03 - Thoughts on Modern
\n1:51:01 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Showcase Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12342275#paper
\nThe League Dump: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-league-2021-09-24#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The latest set has hit the digital shelves of Magic Online and Arena, and we are here to dig into a few new decks and run them through the Sleeve/Believe/Heave wringer! We first look at Esper Reanimator and Jeskai Phoenix in Modern, then head over to Magic Arena and dive into Izzet Delver in Historic. Do the cards of Midnight Hunt have what it takes to make an impact? Let's find out!
\n\nThe Break Down: Star Studded Challenges!
\nThe Dive Down: Sleeve/Believe/Heave: Mend These Decks!
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Timestamps:
\n2:40 - Housekeeping
\n5:15 - The Break Down: Modern Challenges
\n24:47 - Sunday's Challenge
\n30:01 - Cool Decks, Inc
\n36:51 - The Dive Down begins: S/B/H, Midnight Hunt ed.
\n39:42 - Esper Reanimator
\n1:00:58 - Jeskai Phoenix
\n1:20:28 - Izzet Delver
\n1:34:07 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12340205#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12340211#paper
\nJund Sac: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4311126#paper
\nDredge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4311118
\nEsper Reanimator: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4311099#paper
\nJeskai Phoenix: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4311100#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week, Stan leave Dave and Shane to their own devices as he returns to a parental-leave induced bliss. With dad gone, the last two friends decide to go wild and cover SCG's recent Historic satellites in a quick and fun break down followed by arguing about too many cards for far too much time. And they thought this would be a short one! Dave considers light up the night. Shane says the world "cool" 500,000 times in two hours. Somewhere, in the midst of a dream, Stan cringes.
\n\nThe Break Down: SCG Historic Satellites + $5k
\nThe Dive Down: Innistrad: Midnight Hunt Spoilers, pt.II
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Timestamps:
\n3:04 - Housekeeping
\n5:06 - The Break Down: The SCG Historic Championship Qualifier
\n14:15 - The Dive Down: Innistrad: Midnight Hunt, vol.2
\n15:40 - The Adversary Cycle
\n33:39 - Ghoulcaller's Harvest
\n37:49 - Willow Geist
\n40:23 - Sunset Revelry
\n42:34 - Meathook Massacre
\n45:40 - Fateful Absence
\n50:10 - Light Up The Night
\n55:02 - Turn the Earth
\n58:07 - Lunarch Veteran
\n1:01:30 - Delver of Secrets
\n1:07:54 - Secrets of the Key
\n1:12:11 - Otherworldly Gaze
\n1:14:51 - Malevolent Hermit
\n1:19:09 - Patrician Geist
\n1:22:46 - Suspicious Stowaway
\n1:25:39 - Outland Liberator
\n1:29:00 - Rem Karolus, Stalwart Slayer
\n1:31:35 - Slaughter Specialist
\n1:34:29 - Adeline, Resplendent Cathar
\n1:36:37 - Teferi, Who Slows the Sunset
\n1:39:47 - Dennick, Pious Apprentice
\n1:41:43 - Jerren, Corrupted Bishop
\n1:44:10 - Cathartic Pyre
\n1:45:17 - Memory Deluge
\n1:47:37 - The cards we are most sure about
\n1:49:23 - The cards we are most unsure about
\n1:50:09 - What cards do we want to be good?
\n1:50:55 - What cards will have the biggest impact on non-Modern formats?
\n1:52:00 - What cards will have the biggest impact on Modern?
\n1:54:00 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nHistoric $5K SCG TOUR ONLINE CHAMPIONSHIP QUALIFIER: https://mtgmeta.io/tournaments/4059
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week we're getting to band back together. Stan returns to take Shane and Dave through a tour of the format he's been playing most recently — Historic. He's learned a lot from playing at all times of the night and day and night and who knows what time it is anyway? After that, the team fully jumps into the Midnight Hunt. Dave likes some cards. Shane doesn't like them. Stan knocks the rust off.
\n\nThe Break Down: Stan's Back... But For How Long?
\nThe Break Down, cont: A Taste of Historic
\nThe Dive Down: Midnight Hunt, Part 1
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Timestamps:
\n3:19 - Housekeeping
\n5:58 - The Break Down: The new decks of Historic
\n8:49 - The Jeskai decks
\n22:54 - Counteracting Jeskai
\n26:18 - Cascade combo
\n29:25 - Gruul Shamans
\n35:31 - Scurry Oak combo
\n37:52 - Merfolk
\n41:09 - Mono-Red variants
\n45:43 - Vesperlark combo
\n49:00 - What we're playing
\n52:50 - The Dive Down: Innistrad: Midnight Hunt!
\n54:50 - The mechanics of Innistrad
\n1:05:39 - The cards begin - Consider
\n1:08:03 - Play With Fire
\n1:09:30 - Infernal Grasp
\n1:11:34 - Champion of the Perished
\n1:12:34 - The land cycle
\n1:15:45 - Wrenn & Seven
\n1:19:07 - Poppet Stitcher
\n1:22:50 - Rite of Harmony
\n1:26:00 - Curse of Silence
\n1:27:59 - Croaking Counterpart
\n1:29:34 - Vampire Socialite
\n1:30:59 - Bladestich Scaab
\n1:31:58 - Diregraf Rebirth
\n1:33:48 - Brutal Cathar
\n1:36:05 - Curse of Shaken Faith
\n1:38:35 - Flame Channeler
\n1:40:57 - Faithful Mending
\n1:47:05 - Predictions
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This week, Dave and Shane recruited our old friend Evart Moughon, aka Aspiringspike, to help us wrap our heads around all things Modern. We talk about his deck selection at the HBMO, the ever-changing Modern metagame, and his thoughts about the best decks in the format. Before that, we discuss Magic's 2022 product release roadmap. Does Spike think Hobbit aggro will be the new tier 0? Listen and find out!
\n\nThe Break Down: All About 2022
\nThe Dive Down: Dress Down Dive Down
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Just a Lot of Questions About Modern
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Timestamps:
\n2:52 - Housekeeping
\n6:10 - The Break Down: Magic's 2022 product roadmap
\n6:50 - Returning to Innistrad (again!)
\n12:14 - Returning to Kamigawa! Demon Crime Lords!
\n18:22 - Returning to Dominaria!
\n21:03 - Returning to Double Masters and Jumpstart!
\n22:39 - Pioneer Challenger Decks
\n28:41 - Secret Lairs and Universes Beyond
\n43:26 - The Dive Down: Talking Modern with Spike
\n43:45 - The Hunter Burton Memorial Open
\n48:50 - How do the paper and online meta differ?
\n51:40 - Grixis Dress Down Shadow
\n57:08 - Spike's favorite Dress Down interactions
\n59:07 - The evolving Modern meta
\n1:06:44 - Is there a best DRC deck?
\n1:11:20 - How do you think about playing a DRC deck?
\n1:15:24 - How can you wrap your head around the meta?
\n1:20:40 - Spike's take on the meta
\n1:25:40 - Defining tiers in Modern
\n1:27:34 - Hammertime time
\n1:30:58 - What keeps decks out of the upper tiers?
\n1:35:40 - How do we feel about MH2 Modern?
\n1:37:04 - Evart's trophy race
\n1:40:00 - What's your favorite MH2 card?
\n1:43:25 - Pro or anti-Core set?
\n1:46:15 - What is it about Modern?
\n1:48:31 - Where to find Spike
\n1:51:07 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nAspiringspike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nAspiringspike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart
\nRakdos Mid ft Den of the Bugbear: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/VjqTVfP45
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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With Stan and Dave out this week, Shane recruited the hosts of Mishra's Babble for another crossover episode. They spend time evaluating the metagame and decks from the Hunter Burton Memorial Open, then head into The Dive Down to evaluate the impact of MH2 on the meta, their deck selection, and how they think about the format.
\n\nThe Break Down: Meet The Babblers
\nThe Break Down Pt.2: HBMO
\nThe Dive Down: MH2 is Still Crushing It
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Timestamps:
\n3:07 - Housekeeping
\n4:30 - Introducing our guest hosts
\n16:25 - The Break Down: The Hunter Burton Memorial Open
\n19:10 - The Top 300 Meta
\n29:35 - The Top 128 Decks
\n38:47 - The Top 32 Decks
\n46:35 - The Top 8
\n1:12:15 - The Dive Down: The Impact of MH2
\n1:13:10 - Efficiency
\n1:21:32 - Flexibility
\n1:24:45 - What strategies and mindsets have shifted?
\n1:37:22 - What opportunities are there in Modern?
\n1:47:30 - How can we learn from our experiences?
\n1:55:02 - Where to find our guests and closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nMishra's Babble Podcast: https://anchor.fm/francisco-pawluszek/
\nFran on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/fpawlusz
\nEvan on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/evaros
\nGabe on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/spiderspace
\nHBMO Decks: https://www.mtgel.com/deck/1
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MTGO grinder and deck designer, Matt Hayashi, aka MHayashi, joins Stan to talk about Mono Red Obosh, Hammer of Bogardan, and some of Matt's other favorite strategies in Modern.
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\nMHayashi's YouTube channels:
\nhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvVnz4iBRxBtVI2oe80S3kg?view_as=subscriber
\nhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVnBRe8ri0glLI0_5G-L11g
\nMHayashi's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/MagicMatt
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This week we tackle a top-tier Patreon request! Sean D asked us to look at Stoneforge Mystic in Modern, and we were more than happy to oblige. We each played a deck featuring Stoneforge in very different ways, and of course are happy to bring you our takes. Before that, we take a look at two wild Modern challenges that give us a lot of hope! And don't miss Housekeeping for some very important announcements!
\n\nThe... Housekeeping??: A Can't Miss Housekeeping
\nThe Break Down: More Modern Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Rock, Paper, Stoneblades
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Timestamps:
\n2:39 - Housekeeping
\n8:26 - The Break Down: More Modern Challenges
\n26:20 - The Dive Down: Revisiting Stoneforge
\n29:00 - Stoneforge's History in Modern
\n37:27 - The Decks We Tested
\n42:06 - Nettlecyst Non-Blade
\n59:34 - Esper Blade
\n1:11:39 - Orzhov Griefanimatorblade
\n1:37:10 - Our Takes on Stoneforge in Modern Today
\n1:42:00 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12326162#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12326167#paper
\nOrzhov Nettle-non-blade: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4197511#paper
\nEsper Blade: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4206684#paper
\nOrzhov Griefanimateblade: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4212787#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Jumpstart: Historic Horizons is upon us, and we are contractually obligated to have takes for you. So here they are. We go over the new mechanics, the economy issues, and, most importantly, the stand-out cards in the set. Before that, we look at some of the most recent high-level Historic tournaments to take a look at the current meta before it gets shaken up.
\n\nThe Break Down: Historic Insights
\nThe Dive Down: Seeking Perpetual Conjuration
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Just a Whole Lot of Cards
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Timestamps:
\n2:20 - Housekeeping
\n8:31 - The Break Down Begins!
\n10:14 - The Historic Tournament Metagame
\n20:59 - The Winning Decks in Historic
\n25:49 - What We're Looking for in Historic Horizons
\n34:12 - The Dive Down Begins! Introducing Historic Horizons
\n38:44 - The Digital Mechanics of Historic Horizons
\n50:50 - Our Takes on Digital Mechanics
\n1:02:19 - Finally Talking About the Cards
\n1:04:13 - The White Cards
\n1:12:00 - The Blue Cards
\n1:20:25 - The Black Cards
\n1:26:00 - The Red Cards
\n1:34:30 - The Green Cards
\n1:37:40 - The Gold Cards
\n1:40:05 - The Artifacts
\n1:40:54 - Takes on Historic Horizons Cards
\n1:44:38 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nHistoric Horizons Announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/what-mtg-arenas-jumpstart-historic-horizons-2021-07-26
\nThe New-to-Magic Cards: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/jumpstart-historic-horizons
\nThe Packet Lists: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/jumpstart-historic-horizons-packet-lists-2021-07-26
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week we do a deep dive into some STATS. We look at the big ManaTraders event from last weekend - what decks made it to the swiss, and how did they perform? We even get a tournament report from the one host who qualified! Following that, we take a look at the evolving Modern metagame from the last 3 weeks of tournament data to see how the format is shaking out.
\n\nThe Break Down: Historic What?
\nThe Dive Down: Crashing ManaTraders
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Hammer Seems Good
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Timestamps:
\n2:31 - Housekeeping
\n3:35 - The Break Down begins - Historic Changes are Afoot!
\n15:15 - The Historic Horizons leak
\n28:45 - The ManaTraders Modern Event
\n30:50 - The ManaTraders Modern Meta
\n44:44 - The MT Top 8
\n51:40 - Fighting HammerTime
\n53:40 - Stan's Footfalls Tournament Report
\n1:08:57 - A Look at the Competitive Modern Meta
\n1:17:15 - Looking More Closely at the Top Modern Decks
\n1:31:40 - What's Not at the Top?
\n1:34:35 - Takes on the Meta
\n1:41:40 - Closing Ou
Links from this week's episode:
\nBamzing's ManaTraders breakdown: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/oqhs4y/manatraders_series_modern_decklists_july_2021/
\nWIll Krueger's HammerTime writeup: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13NtaEE5xyhElk68kxcI9XYteWw6Je-hlXzik64otj3U/edit
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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In this weeks ep, we reveal the results of The Dive Down Nation's Modern Ban survey. What are the five cards you voted on to be removed from Modern, and more importantly.... what are our takes on the results?! Before that, we go over some Tasha's Hideous Laughter math that citizen of the Nation Stefan generated, and briefly discuss Sunday's Modern Challenge Top 8!
\n\nThe Break Down: Tasha's Hideous Mathter
\nThe Dive Down: The Nation Decides
\nThe Dive Down, cont: What if Nothing?
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Timestamps:
\n2:45 - Housekeeping
\n7:10 - The Break Down - Tasha's Hideous Math
\n17:33 - Breaking News! The Sunday Challenge Top 8
\n22:22 - The Dive Down Begins
\n23:46 - Lurrus of the Dream-Den
\n25:57 - The case for banning Lurrus
\n38:02 - The case against banning Lurrus
\n44:40 - The final verdict on Lurrus
\n47:57 - Mishra's Bauble
\n51:40 - The case for banning Bauble
\n58:31 - The case against banning Bauble
\n1:04:36 - The final verdict on Bauble
\n1:07:22 - Primeval Titan
\n1:08:55 - The case for banning Titan
\n1:13:20 - The case against banning Titan
\n1:15:20 - The final verdict on Titan
\n1:18:37 - Teferi, Time Raveler
\n1:19:28 - The case for banning Teferi
\n1:24:05 - The case against banning Teferi
\n1:27:29 - The final verdict on Teferi
\n1:29:45 - Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer
\n1:30:40 - The case for banning Ragavan
\n1:36:40 - The case against banning Ragavan
\n1:38:10 - The final verdict on Ragavan
\n1:39:15 - Should we ban... Nothing?
\n1:41:10 - The Wind Down - what didn't make the top 5?
\n1:48:38 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nHow Hideous is Tasha's Laughter: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/omalkc/how_hideous_is_tashas_laughter_what_the_numbers/
\nSunday's Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-07-19
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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First up this week, we take a quick spin through last week's Modern Leagues and pick out a few extremely cool decks to chat about. After that it's an Izzet world and we just delve right into it. That's right, it's UR week on The Dive Down (again) as we take a deep look at one of the latest best decks of Modern Horizons 2 Modern — Izzet Murktide. We discuss why we think the deck is suited to the meta right now, how to play it, and how to beat it (we think). Tune in to find out if this is a control deck, a midrange deck, or a tempo deck — we have a definitive answer! (Warning: We do not have a definitive answer.)
\n\nShane loves Counterspell. Dave loves Garden State. Stan loves 8-2s.
\n\nThe Break Down: Some Cool Decks We Saw
\nThe Dive Down, pt 1: An 8/8 for Two
\nThe Dive Down, pt 2: Izzet Just Death's Shadow?
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Timestamps:
\n4:00 – Housekeeping
\n8:36 – The Break Down begins – Cool Decks, Inc!
\n10:15 – 4C Carth the Lion Superfriends
\n17:30 – Sultai Tokens
\n22:00 – Izzet Phoenix
\n25:49 – Hammertime ft. Ingenious Smith
\n32:38 – The Dive Down begins – Izzet Murktide!
\n39:00 – The Spells
\n42:50 – A Mishra’s Bauble digression
\n47:07 – The Sideboard
\n49:40 – The fundamental strategies of Murktide
\n1:00:15 – Is this a Control deck?
\n1:07:41 – A Murktide Regent digression
\n1:12:00 – Is this a Graveyard deck?
\n1:20:33 – A Counterspell digression
\n1:23:20 – Tactics & Sequencing
\n1:33:50 – Our experiences playing
\n1:44:41 – Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\n4C Carth Superfriends, as trophied by Greenhide1
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4136337#paper
\nBUG Tokens, as trophied by Litledude123
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4129352#paper
\nMODERN Izzet Phoenix, as trophied by AspiringSpike
\nhttps://twitter.com/MoughonEvart/status/1413522001583554568
\nHammertime with Ingenious Smith by Hamuda
\nhttps://twitter.com/hamudao3/status/1413998949728411648?s=20
\n2nd Place Izzet Murktide deck from Saturday’s Modern Challenge from DO0MSWITCH
\nhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-07-11?xd2#domswitch_nd_place
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Well, we've finally arrived at The Forgotten Realms, and talk about what mechanics and cards from the latest set we think have the potential to impact Historic, Modern, and Pioneer. Before that, we talk about the weekend's Modern Challenges to continue to keep up with the dynamic Modern meta.
\n\nThe Break Down: Another Heartfelt Thanks//It's Darcy B's World
\nThe Dive Down: Spoiled by Spoilers
\nThe Wind Down: Venture Bros.
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Timestamps:
\n3:08 - Housekeeping
\n6:09 - The Break Down begins- Modern Challenges
\n9:37 - A Murktide Regent and Izzet diversion
\n15:27 - The Cascade decks
\n22:18 - More thoughts on the Challenge
\n27:56 - The Challenge top 8
\n29:29 - The Sunday Challenge
\n33:29 - What We're Buying
\n39:10 - The Dive Down begins - Venture into the Adventure!
\n41:12 - Our History with D&D
\n50:44 - Dungeons
\n58:21 - D20s
\n1:05:34 - Creature Lands
\n1:10:13 - Classes
\n1:15:25 - Pack Tactics
\n1:18:06 - Cards that Inspire Us
\n1:18:58 - Treasure Vault
\n1:21:08 - Portable Hole
\n1:23:15 - Demilich
\n1:26:12 - Flameskull
\n1:29:14 - Circle of Dreams Druid
\n1:31:46 - Oswald Fiddlebender
\n1:34:59 - Grim Wanderer
\n1:36:52 - Yuan-Ti Malison
\n1:38:31 - Hand of Vecna
\n1:40:40 - Sphere of Annihilation
\n1:41:54 - Devour Intellect & Eye of Vecna
\n1:44:35 - The Wind Down - Venture Bros.
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/odmf2t/modern_showcase_challenge_results_jul_3_2021/
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/oeac16/sunday_modern_challenge_results_jul_4_2021/
\nAdventures in the Forgotten Realms: https://scryfall.com/sets/afr
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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SPECIAL NOTE: We had issues with Dave's audio this week, so he sounds bad! We are sorry!
\nIn this week's episode we continue to explore the developments and decks of the Modern Horizons 2 metagame. We first explore 4 Modern events that took place over the last weekend, then talk about our experiences playing some of the latest contenders in Modern. Is Stan converting to a full-time Enchantress player? Did Shane purchase another set of Stoneforge Mystics? Did Dave.... oh wait Dave always loves Rakdos.
The Break Down: Together Again
\nThe Dive Down: 68 Degree Basement
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Rakdos, Hammer, Enchantress
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Timestamps:
\n3:40 - Housekeeping
\n7:35 - The Break Down begins - the evolving Modern meta
\n8:58 - The MOCS Showcase
\n15:40 - Insight Modern 5k
\n29:42 - Modern Challenges
\n31:09 - Takes on the Meta
\n37:23 - The Dive Down begins - S/B/H MH2v2
\n38:18 - Rakdos ft. Lurrus
\n1:02:39 - Mono-W Hammertime ft. Lurrus
\n1:21:00 - Selesnya Enchantress
Links from this week's episode:
\nMOCS Champions Showcase: https://magic.gg/decklists/2021-magic-online-champions-showcase-season-1-modern-decklists
\nInsight Esports Modern 5k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/6888
\n6/27 Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12309177#paper
\n6/28 Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12309183#paper
\nRakdos Rock: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/6W2Hiwbm_
\n_Mono-White Hammer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4109042#paper
\nSelesnya Enchantress: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4100268#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Stan and Shane played a whole lot of blue spells for the latest installment of Sleeve/Believe/Heave, featuring some emerging Modern Horizons 2 strategies. We chat about our findings with the Izzet Delver decks, Izzet Food, Jeskai Monkey Blade, and more!
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Sleeve/Believe/Heave Modern Horizons 2 Blue Decks ed.
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Timestamps:
\n3:35 - Housekeeping
\n5:38 - The Break Down - Two Modern Challenges
\n19:38 - Sunday's Challenge
\n28:31 - Challenge Trends
\n37:33 - The Dive Down Begins - Jeskai Tempo
\n43:55 - A Prismatic Ending Sidebar
\n49:05 - A Ragavan Sidebar
\n59:04 - A Kaldra Compleat Sidebar
\n1:05:41 - Izzet Urza Food Midrange
\n1:13:39 - Stan Quizzes Shane on Urza Food
\n1:23:44 - Delver in Modern
\n1:27:06 - Izzet Delver v2
\n1:30:39 - A Dragon's Rage Channeler Sidebar
\n1:32:30 - Back to the Deck
\n1:37:06 - Delver vs. Stoneblade
\n1:40:05 - An Urza's Saga Sidebar
\n1:48:30 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-06-20
\nSunday's Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-06-21
\nJeskai Control/Tempo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4070264#paper
\nIzzet Urza Food: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4089146
\nIzzet Delver variants:
\nV1: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4074067#paper
\nV2: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4089149
\nStan version: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4074197#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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In our latest bonus episode, we're joined by a genuine MTGO stalwart, Gabe Maxson aka SpiderSpace to chat about Modern, content creation, and white taxes decks.
\n\nFind SpiderSpace at:
\nhttps://www.twitch.tv/spiderspace
\nhttps://twitter.com/spiderspacemtg
\nHear Mishra's Babble at https://anchor.fm/francisco-pawluszek/episodes/Ep-5-Modern-Continues-to-Evolve-e12qogj
\nSpiderSpace's Flickerwisp Lines for Aspiring Taxes Players: https://twitter.com/SpiderSpaceMTG/status/1313308453041922048
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On this week's episode we attempt something ambitious - looking at every deck in the most recent Modern deck dump that features MH2 cards. And that's almost all of them! Join us as we talk about the latest decks, trends, and dare we say it, strategies in Modern.
\n\nHousekeeping: A Heartfelt Thanks
\nThe Break Down: 99 Decks
\nThe Break Down, pt2: The Bell Returns
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Timestamps:
\n6:58 - Housekeeping
\n10:15 - Some high-level Deck Dump stats
\n11:52 - The most seen MH2 cards so far
\n20:08 - The most seen old cards
\n21:35 - Some more deck dump stats
\n23:42 - The deck dump begins: Mono-black Food, Living End, Lantern Control, Azorious Affinity, Obosh Red
\n32:17 - Orzhov Stoneblade Blink, Living End variants, Azorious Stoneblade, G Hardened Scales, Golgari Elves
\n42:51 - Boros Burn, Azorious Blink, Izzet Delver, Golgari Elves, Elementals, Azorious Control
\n51:33 - Urza Affinity Food, Azorius Affinity and Urza's Saga talk
\n1:02:04 - Grixis Delirium, Jund, Orzhov Stoneblade Blink
\n1:11:49 - Orzhov Reanimator, Domain Zoo, Boros Taxes
\n1:17:41 - The Bell Returns! Abzan Blink, Merfolk, Esper Stoneblade, W Taxes, Jeskai Delver, Azorius Urza Control, Selesnya Enchantress, G Tron, Glimpse of Tomorrow, Orzhov Stoneblade
\n1:27:08 - Temur Cascade, Gruul Scales, Boros Prowess, Orzhov Stoneblade Control, Yawgmoth, Golgari Food, the Rock, Arclight Phoenix, Orzhov Shadowblade, Gruul Ponza, Blue Moon
\n1:37:00 - Amulet Titan, Rakdos Shadow, Rakdos Skelemental, Mardu Reanimator Electrodominance stuff, Hammertime, Sultai Urza Artifact stuff, Grixis Shadow, Golgari Food, Humans
\n1:45:07 - Izzet Delver, Foodvine, Crabvine, Jund Shadow, 4C Cascade Nahiri Control, Red Prowess, Azorius Affinityblade, Orzhov Reanimator, Titania Titan
\n1:50:35 - Fast takeaways and closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nJune 11th Modern League Deck Dump: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-league-2021-06-11
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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It's just Stan and Shane this week, and they tackle the second half of the Modern Horizons 2 full set review! Before that, there's a brief Cool Decks, Inc, where we cover 3 decks that made the top 8 of last weekend's Modern Challenge. We then plant some flags and light some takes on fire about the best and worst cards in MH2.
\n\nThe Break Down: Cool Decks, Inc - MH2 begins!
\nThe Dive Down: It's Just Cards
\nThe Wind Down: Hot Takes on MH2
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Timestamps:
\n3:00 - Housekeeping
\n5:41 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n6:18 - Hardened Scales
\n9:49 - Temur Cascade
\n12:16 - Foodgaak
\n17:19 - The MH2 set review continues!!
\n22:42 - The Blue Cards
\n33:31 - The Black Cards
\n42:58 - The Red Cards
\n48:19 - The Green Cards
\n50:07 - The Gold Cards
\n1:09:38 - The Artifacts
\n1:25:34 - The Lands
\n1:27:52 - The Reprints
\n1:35:03 - Hot Takes on MH2
\n1:35:50 - The Best New to Modern Reprint
\n1:36:39 - Our Favorite New Cards
\n1:37:21 - The Best Creatures
\n1:39:06 - What Cards Might Get Banned?
\n1:40:34 - Best Upgrade to an Existing Deck
\n1:41:28 - Most Improved and Hurt Modern Decks
\n1:43:47 - Best and Worst New Decks in Modern
\n1:44:50 - Most Underrated Cards
\n1:46:25 - Most Overrated Cards
\n1:48:13 - What Might Mess Up Modern?
\n1:49:13 - Our Final Takes on MH2
\n1:52:00 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nHardened Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4053051#paper
\nTemur Cascade: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4053052#paper
\nFoodgaak: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4053055#paper
\nModern Horizons 2: https://scryfall.com/sets/mh2?order=set&as=grid
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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It's finally here!! The first in our two part FULL SET REVIEW for Modern Horizons 2. This week Shane's travel schedule kept him off the episode, but he's been replaced with our unofficial 4th host, Evart Moughon, aka Aspiringspike, one of the most respected and creative deck builders and streamers in Modern.
\n\nThe Dive Down: It's Just Cards This Time
\nThe Dive Down, cont: And Not Even All Of Them
\nThe Dive Down, cont: We Really Tried, Though
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Timestamps:
\n2:48 - Housekeeping
\n4:54 - The White Cards
\n26:01 - The Blue Cards
\n44:27 - The Black Cards
\n1:03:43 - The Red Cards
\n1:24:40 - The Green Cards
\n1:39:17 - Some of the Gold Cards
\n1:45:43 - A Few More Cards With Evart
\n1:57:07 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nModern Horizons 2: https://scryfall.com/sets/mh2?order=set&as=grid
\nEvart's Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nEvart's Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Sunday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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This week we talk the banning of Thassa's Oracle in Historic and the first post-ban Historic tournament. Then we head into The Dive Down to discuss the early Modern Horizons 2 previews, and then tackle some listener questions in The Wind Down!
\n\nThe Break Down: Oracle Nomoreacle
\nThe Dive Down: Horizons for Yerizons and Ear...zons
\nThe Wind Down: Your Questions, Answered
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Timestamps:
\n3:40 - Housekeeping
\n4:51 - The Break Down begins - Thassa's Oracle is banned in Historic!
\n19:30 - The Insight eSports 5k Invitational metagame breakdown
\n24:15 - Deck winrates
\n33:05 - The Top 8 and what Historic decks are winning right now
\n36:30 - The Dive Down begins: Modern Horizons 2 Spoilers!
\n37:46 - Grief
\n49:39 - Cabal Coffers
\n53:38 - Yusri, Fortune's Flame
\n57:20 - Flametongue Yearling
\n1:00:07 - Thrasta, Tempest's Roar
\n1:06:29 - Unmarked Grave
\n1:10:07 - Rishadan Dockhand
\n1:11:57 - Profane Tutor
\n1:15:55 - Timeless Dragon
\n1:18:40 - Dakkon, Shadow Slayer
\n1:24:08 - MH1 Reprints
\n1:26:15 - The Wind Down: listener questions!
\n1:26:35 - Is MH2 a "cash grab?"
\n1:31:48 - What does Death's Shadow need to win in Historic?
\n1:34:42 - How to move to a new game store?
\n1:38:46 - How are we REALLY doing, personally?
\n1:43:13 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\n5/19 B&R Annoucement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/may-19-2021-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\nInsight ESports Tier 1 Invitational: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/5400
\nModern Horizons 2 Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/mh2?as=grid&order=spoiled
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Jobs were lost (after next year) and new cards are announced (for next week). We go through all 25 additions from Historic Anthology 5, consider their potential and their competitive past. We also reflect on what the competitive future looks like for casual spikes.
\n\nThe Break Down: Goodbye MPL
\nThe Dive Down: Hello Historic Anthology 5
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Timestamps:
\n1:48 - Housekeeping
\n4:46 - The Break Down begins: We are all Casual Spikes now
\n36:05 - The Dive Down begins: HA5
\n36:58 - The Praetors
\n48:02 - Silumgar's Command
\n49:49 - Ojutai's Command
\n51:38 - Dromoka's Command
\n56:31 - Atarka's Command
\n1:06:05 - Kolaghan's Command
\n1:13:45 - Ancient Grudge
\n1:14:44 - Ray of Revelation
\n1:15:51 - Grisly Salvage
\n1:18:14 - Dragonstorm
\n1:20:24 - Intangible Virtue
\n1:23:10 - Into the North
\n1:24:36 - Relic of Progenitus
\n1:26:56 - Trash for Treasure
\n1:27:49 - Ichor Wellspring
\n1:29:41 - Stifle
\n1:30:56 - Merfolk Looter
\n1:32:32 - Reverse Engineer
\n1:33:50 - Court Homunculus, Vault Skirge, and Whirler Rogue
\n1:37:15 - Final thoughts on Historic Anthology 5
\n1:39:15 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://scryfall.com/sets/ha5
\nhttps://magic.gg/news/esports-transitions-and-getting-back-to-gathering
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In our latest bonus episode, we're joined by a godfather of Magic podcast, limited extraordinaire, former member of WOTC's Arena team, Ryan Spain! We chat about how the platform works, whether or not it's out to get you, and how to use two Arena accounts to draft more.
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\nhttps://twitter.com/ryanspain
\nhttps://www.twitch.tv/goingoptimal
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We couldn't wait until Friday to get this out to you, so here's an early EMERGENCY REACT-I-SODE to Wizard's "Summer of Legend" announcement this past week. We talk about Modern Horizons II, the Adventures in the Forgotten Realms, the return of sanctioned Magic, Historic Anthology 5, and more!
\n\nThe Legendary Down: Emergency Reacts Only
\nThe Wind Down: Over/Under-rated Modern Cards
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Timestamps:
\n3:57 - The Legendary Down begins
\n6:29 - MH2
\n9:30 - Fetches
\n18:39 - MH2 Spoilers!
\n37:56 - Counterspell Time
\n53:29 - Our hopes for MH2
\n56:15 - Abundant Harvest side-chat
\n59:10 - Adventures in the Forgotten Realms
\n1:00:32 - Forgotten Realms Spoiler chat
\n1:08:29 - Sanctioned Play is Back!
\n1:10:16 - Historic Anthology 5
\n1:17:30 - Annoucement Odds 'n Ends
\n1:24:48 - The Wind Down Begins - Over/Underrated Modern Cards
\n1:31:03 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Summer of Legend: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/welcome-summer-legend-2021-05-06
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week we are testing 2 new, and 1 not-really-new, decks featuring the latest cards from Strixhaven, and running them through the Sleeve/Believe/Heave ringer. Just how much DOES Dave love Magma Opus? Is Dredge back? Is Witchermancer the new Skelementals? Listen, and find out! Before that, we take a deep dive into the big weekend of Historic and analyze the winners and losers across the SCG Historic Satellite events.
\n\nThe Break Down: SCG Historic Satellites
\nThe Dive Down: Thrilling Dredge, a Witch, and Mopus
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Timestamps:
\n2:52 - Housekeeping
\n5:21 - The Break Down begins - One Thousand Sattelite Decks!
\n6:50 - Saturday's Meta
\n14:50 - Saturday's Winning Meta
\n21:18 - Sunday's Winning Meta
\n28:19 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n28:46 - Selesnya Company
\n31:40 - Simic Stompy
\n36:22 - Tainted Pact Combo
\n41:38 - Jeskai Mutate Combo
\n43:33 - Temur Phoenix
\n48:05- Temur Superfriends
\n49:50 - Boros Midrange
\n53:01 - The Dive Down begins
\n55:53 - Dave w/ Jeskai Magma Opus
\n1:09:12 - Shane w/ Thrilling Dredge
\n1:28:04 - Stan w/ Rakdos Witchermancer
\n1:44:50 - Signing Off
Links from this week's episode:
\nGW Company: https://mtgmelee.com/Decklist/View/133964
\nSimic Stompy: https://mtgmelee.com/Decklist/View/133995
\nTainted Pact: https://mtgmelee.com/Decklist/View/133955
\nJeskai Mutate: https://mtgmelee.com/Decklist/View/133957
\nTemur Phoenix: https://mtgmelee.com/Decklist/View/133825
\nTemur Superfriends: https://mtgmelee.com/Decklist/View/132373
\nBoros Midrange: https://mtgmelee.com/Decklist/View/133988
\nJeskai Magma Opus: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3946673#paper
\nThrilling Dredge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3944691#paper
\nRakdos Witchermancer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3955309#paper
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This week is an old fashioned deck dive on the latest Hotness in Historic - Dimir Rogues! We explore the cards, the strategies, and the fun of the deck, and spend a LOT of time talking about Brainstorm. Is Shane finally ready to cast blue spells? Before that, we go over a recent Modern Challenge and talk about the latest winnings decks.
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Timestamps:
\n1:58 - Housekeeping
\n4:24 - The Break Down Begins - Modern Challenge Time
\n7:13 - The Aggro Decks
\n11:50 - The Creature Combo Decks
\n15:00 - 5-Color Scapeshift Stuff
\n15:42 - Some Event Takes
\n19:48 - What We'd Play
\n22:16 - The Dive Down Begins - Historic Rogues
\n29:08 - What Rogues is Trying to Do
\n32:32 - The Creatures
\n40:27 - The Spells
\n58:18 - Our Experiences Playing the Deck
\n1:00:57 - Tips n Tricks
\n1:07:05 - To Brainstorm or Not To Brainstorm?
\n1:27:59 - The Sideboard
\n1:36:19 - Matchups
\n1:42:48 - Did We Like It?
\n1:46:46 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\n4/24 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-04-25?xd
\nHistoric Rogues: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3937684#paper
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The unofficial 4th host Evart Moughon, aka Aspiringspike, joins us yet again to go over his early testing and experiments in Modern. Dave talks about, what else, Modern Prowess and Historic Phoenix, and Shane says another aggro deck in Historic isn't good enough. Probably. Before that we look at two early Historic tournaments and have an extended jam session of Cool Decks, Inc.
\n\nThe Break Down: Spike Top 8'd a Challenge!
\nThe Dive Down: Spike Made Some Luminancer Decks!
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Spike Has Thoughts About Historic!
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Timestamps:
\n7:08 - The Break Down begins: the first Historic tournaments
\n8:03 - The Insight esports $1k
\n13:50 - The Hooglandia open
\n17:10 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n30:30 - Our Historic Thoughts
\n34:58 - Spike's Modern Challenge Top 8
\n43:20 - The Dive Down begins: the latest decks in Modern and Historic
\n45:25 - Jeskai Prowess
\n48:48 - Naya Prowess
\n53:23 - Boros Prowess
\n1:01:34 - Temur Taking Turns ft. Rowan
\n1:06:40 - Thoughts on Prismari Command
\n1:10:24 - Historic Boros Wizards
\n1:16:43 - Boros Wizards v2
\n1:21:23 - Boros Wizards v3
\n1:27:50 - Historic Izzet Phoenix
\n1:38:56 - Thoughts on Memory Lapse
Links from this week's episode:
\nInsight Esports Historic 1k: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/6052
\nHooglandia Historic Open: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/5942
\nWatch Aspiringspike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nFind Aspiringspike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/moughonevart
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With our time on Kaldheim coming to an end, the Three Friends take a look back and a look forward. Stan takes us through Modern right now via a couple of MTGO Challenges + we consider what might be coming next. Then we do a little self assessment and grade how we did on reviewing Kaldheim cards going into this format. Finally, we look ahead and talk about the decisions people are grappling with with... you guessed it... building Izzet Phoenix in Historic.
\n\nThe Break Down: Where's Modern At?
\nThe Dive Down: Learning from Kaldheim Spoilers
\nThe Dive Down, cont.: The First of Many Times We'll Talk About Phoenix
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3:30 - Housekeeping
\n4:42 - The Break Down - Modern Showcase Challenge and Super Qualifier
\n6:33 - Modern Esper Control Chat
\n13:36 - Weekend Metagame
\n16:45 - Decks to beat vs. Decks that beat
\n21:55 - Can anything from Strixhaven beat tier 1?
\n27:45 - Dive Down pt. 1 - Sunsetting Kaldheim
\n28:20 - Tibalt’s Trickery
\n31:16 - Valki, God of Lies
\n33:16 - Vorinclex
\n36:17 - Doomskar
\n40:00 - In Search of Greatness
\n41:55 - Reidane, God of the Worthy
\n44:44 - Ascendant Spirit
\n46:55 - Birgi
\n49:17 - Jaspera Sentinal
\n51:45 - Elvish Warmaster & Realmwalker
\n53:53 - Behold the Multiverse
\n57:21 - Faceless Haven
\n1:02:43 - Dive Down pt. 2 - Historic Phoenix Brew Down
\n1:37:34 - Patreon Questions Wind Down!
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Well everyone, Shane and Dave really stepped in it last week. Stan's back. And he has things to say. About Mystical Archive cards, about playing to the stack, and about some other nonsense, too. After that's finished, the three friends go through the rest of the cards from Strixhaven and find a few worth talking about for our formats. Stan learns. Dave spoils. Shane toils.
\n\nThe Break Down: Stanislav's Back
\nThe Break Down 2: Stanislav's Mad
\nThe Break Down 3: Stanislav Hates the Takes We Had
\nThe Dive Down: Finally, Some Strixhaven Spoilers
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Timestamps:
\n2:47 - Housekeeping
\n6:04 - Break Down Begins: In Defense of Mystical Archive
\n8:37 - More Spells Can Be Good
\n12:26 - Electrolyze Though
\n15:10 - Archive’s Impact On Gameplay
\n27:54 - The Future of Historic & The Economy
\n34:30 - Abundant Harvest
\n39:14 - Dive Down Begins: Strixhaven Spoilers pt. 2
\n39:41 - Clever Luminancer
\n47:22 - Leonin Lightscribe
\n50:30 - Mavinda, Students’ Advocate
\n52:32 - Strict Proctor
\n55:54 - Guiding Voice
\n56:55 - Show of Confidence
\n59:01 - Test of Talent
\n1:00:44 - Ingenius Mastery
\n1:02:44 - Baleful Mastery
\n1:06:22 - Lash of Malice
\n1:08:39 - Sedgemore Witch
\n1:11:54 - First Day of Class
\n1:13:43 - Grinning Ignus
\n1:15:25 - Retriever Phoenix
\n1:16:40 - Crackle with Power
\n1:17:58 - Charge Through
\n1:20:03 - Dragonsguard Elite
\n1:22:55 - Body of Research
\n1:24:39 - Double Major
\n1:26:09 - Fracture
\n1:27:42 - Rushed Rebirth
\n1:30:07 - Thrilling Discovery
\n1:32:10 - Vanishing Verse
\n1:33:48 - Mila, Crafty Companion/Lukka, Wayward Bonder
\n1:36:47 - Expressive Iteration
\n1:38:16 - Flamescroll Celebrant/Revel in Silence
\n1:41:33 - Ecological Appreciation
\n1:44:11 - Zephyr Boots
\n1:46:00 - Bayou Groff
\n1:48:34 - Mage Duel
\n1:49:50 - Strixhaven Stadium
\n1:52:40 - Parting Thoughts
Strixhaven Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/stx?order=set&as=grid
\nStrixhaven... Mystical Archive?? Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/sta?as=grid&order=set
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This week, Professor Stan is on sabbatical, so Shane and Dave are headed back to school to give their takes on the first batch of Strixhaven spoilers. Is this the episode where Shane is the optimist? We also take some time to go over our Mystical Archive tier lists for Historic. Will Crux of Fate have what it takes to be the only S-Tier card? Before all that, we briefly go over the Historic meta at the Kaldheim Championship, and look at two novel decks that some big names brought.
\n\nThe Episode: Stan's Not Here, Man
\nThe Break Down: The History is History
\nThe Dive Down: Wizard College's Deepest Secrets
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Timestamps:
\n4:25 - Housekeeping
\n7:11 - The Break Down begins: the Kaldheim Champs
\n11:36 - Abzan "Midrange" overview
\n16:50 - Boros Cycling overview
\n18:48 - The Dive Down begins: Back to School!
\n19:50 - The Mechanics of Strixhaven
\n32:29 - The Snarl Lands
\n34:23 - Will & Rowan
\n37:28 - Storm-Kiln Shaman
\n40:50 - Rip Apart
\n45:40 - Elite Spellbinder
\n49:48 - Venerable Warsinger
\n53:30 – Radiant Scrollwielder
\n56:03 – Efreet Flamepainter
\n59:55 – Reduce to Memory
\n1:02:38 – Archmage Emeritus
\n1:06:40 – Witherbloom Apprentice
\n1:08:10 – Dragonsguard Elite
\n1:10:35 – Curate
\n1:13:09 – Shadrix Silverquill
\n1:15:46 – The Commands
\n1:23:20 – Professor Onyx
\n1:27:05 – The Mystical Archive in Historic
\n1:30:07 – The S/A-Tier
\n1:39:25 – The B-Tier
\n1:44:28 – C-Tier
\n1:51:34 – D-Tier
\n1:52:50 – Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Kaldheim Championship Decks: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/kaldheim-championship#paper
\nStrixhaven Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/stx?order=set&as=grid
\nStrixhaven... Mystical Archive?? Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/sta?as=grid&order=set
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It's no secret that the Sun-Crowned has been ruling the roost in Modern, so on this week's episode we ask the very important question: how do we beat Heliod Company?! Or is it Heliod Combo? We're also kicking off the episode with a detailed breakdown of the SCG Tour Online's Historic weekend. #Spreadsheets
\n\nThe Disclaimer: Dave's Not Here
\nThe Break Down: Satellite of Jund
\nThe Dive Down: Tricksy Timing and Other Combo Breakers
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Timestamps:
\n3:02 — Housekeeping
\n6:07 — Break Down Begins: SCG Historic Satellites
\n10:50 — Swiss Meta: 1,053 Decks!!
\n25:25 — 4-2s or Better in the Swiss
\n30:28 — Sunday Championship Meta: 301 Decks!!
\n35:36 — Top 8
\n37:20 — Conclusions
\n46:30 — What it Means for Casual Spikes
\n49:52 — The Dive Down Begins: How to Beat Heliod
\n53:00 — How Heliod Got His Groove Back
\n56:12 — How the Deck is Different Now
\n1:00:12 — About the February 15 Bannings
\n1:04:00 — What We Did This Episode: Try to Lose
\n1:06:45 — What to Think About Against Heliod
\n1:07:06 — Favored Decks: UW Control
\n1:08:10 — Favored Decks: Green Tron
\n1:09:31 — Favored Decks: UB Mill
\n1:10:50 — Even Decks: Jund Death's Shadow
\n1:13:40 — Even Decks: Burn
\n1:21:25 — Even Decks: Taxes, Hammertime
\n1:22:05 — Other Combo Decks
\n1:23:22 — Cards We Love Against Heliod
\n1:28:00 — How Can You Beat Infinite Life?
\n1:31:50 — How to Interact Against Heliod
\n1:37:01 — Mirror Matches
\n1:39:40 — Is Heliod Overpowered?
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe SCG 5K Strixhaven Qualifier: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/5656
\nHeliod Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3853109#paper
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In something of a split episode, we first explore the reprints of Time Spiral Remastered, identify some potential cards that are "on sale," the impact of the old border reprints, and what we're eyeballing as purchases. Following that, Dave outlines the various Death's Shadow decks that players have been testing in Historic following the release of Anthology 4, Shane probably under-rates Historic cycling decks, and Stan continues to cast Elves.
\n\nThe Break Down: Pay More For Cards You Already Have!
\nThe Dive Down: Death's Shadow + Adanto Vanguard = <3
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Other Anthology Thoughts
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Timestamps:
\n2:31 - Housekeeping
\n5:43 - Break Down Begins: Introducing the Time Spiral Buyer’s Guide
\n10:59 - Gemstone Cavern
\n13:13 - Tarmogoyf
\n17:11 - A bunch of quick hits
\n25:00 - The Value of Old Border Reprints
\n32:17 - Yawgmoth, Thran Physician
\n33:33 - Chalice of the Void
\n34:20 - Ancient Stirrings
\n35:46 - How Old Borders Impact Box Prices
\n41:33 - Time Spiral Parting Thoughts
\n43:55 - Dive Down Begins: Testing Death’s Shadow in Historic
\n48:36 - Grixis Death’s Shadow
\n52:20 - RB Arcanist
\n1:02:38 - RB Aggro
\n1:07:18 - Mono-Black Aggro
\n1:11:07 - Cycling Shadow
\n1:13:53 - Mardu Shadow
\n1:28:39 - More testing: Flameblade Adept
\n1:38:26 - Declaration in Stone
\n1:40:00 - Abomination of Llanowar
\n1:44:59 - Sawtusk Demolisher
\n1:49:05 - Parting Thoughts
Links from this week's episode:
\nTime Spiral Remastered: https://scryfall.com/sets/tsr?order=usd&as=grid
\nThe EV of TSR: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/the-expected-value-of-time-spiral-remastered
\nMardu Shadow: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3829762#paper
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This week we tackle another Patron request from Bob - Bant Ephemerate! And who better to have on than one of the masters of the deck, Aspiringspike himself, Evart Moughon. We go over the ins and outs of the deck, with Shane wondering just how to cast counterspells, Dave running out of time on Magic Online, and Stan just blinking stuff. Before that, we look at the latest Historic Anthology and give our takes on what cards might have an impact.
\n\nThe Break Down: A Shadow Over Historic
\nThe Dive Down: Draw 2 Whenever You Can
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Winning With Three 2/2s
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Timestamps:
\n2:36 - Housekeeping
\n6:08 - The Break Down begins - Historic Anthology 4
\n11:48 - The cards of Historic Anthology 4
\n14:50 - Death's Shadow
\n24:06 - Declaration in Stone
\n27:15 - Thraben Inspector
\n29:03 - Flameblade Adept
\n32:06 - Blinkmoth Nexus
\n34:01 - Sword of Body and Mind
\n35:31 - The other stuff
\n38:35 - Thoughts on Anthologies
\n43:26 - The Dive Down begins - a brief history of Bant Ephemerate
\n48:45 - What inspired Evart to keep coming back to this shell?
\n51:43 - Ephemerate: the key card
\n56:33 - What are we bouncing? Eternal Witness
\n1:01:30 - Ice-Fang Coatl
\n1:04:27 - Skyclave Apparition
\n1:07:43 - Wall of Omens
\n1:09:30 - Venser, Shaper Savant
\n1:11:40 - The Counterspells & How to Cast Them
\n1:23:04 - The Teferis
\n1:25:15 - The Mana
\n1:29:28 - Time Warp (Time Warp!)
\n1:31:35 - How Fun is the Deck?
\n1:37:37 - Some Sideboard Tips
\n1:41:12 - How Does This Slow Deck Win?
\n1:46:48 - Final Tips For Picking Up This Deck
Links from this week's episode:
\nHistoric Anthology 4: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/get-ready-historic-anthology-iv-2021-03-05
\nBant Ephemerate: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/yHz1usZ4J
\nWatch Aspiringspike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nFind Aspiringspike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/moughonevart
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This week it's a Modern-focused, Patron-thanking episode that's all about one of the format's classics, Merfolk. That's right. You've been waiting for 2 years for us to dive down into the depths of these seas. But first, we'll take a look through the Mana Traders Series from this month. It's Modern. It's good. Again. Dave hates seafood. Stan combos off. Shane is — surprisingly — a friend to all fish, everywhere.
\n\nThe Break Down: Manatraders Modern
\nThe Dive Down: Turn 1 Aether Vial
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Turn 4 Spreading Seas
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Timestamps:
\n3:16 - Special Patreon shoutout / Housekeeping
\n6:12 - The Break Down begins - the Manatraders Modern Month
\n7:33 - The overall Manatraders metagame
\n11:10 - 6-3 conversion rates
\n15:35 - The top 8
\n27:10 - Quick top 16 analysis of the weekend Challenges
\n28:39 - Takeaways and takes from the weekend's events
\n39:10 - The Dive Down begins: Modern Merfolk!
\n41:00 - What this deck is about
\n43:52 - A brief history of Merfolk
\n49:45 - The construction options of Merfolk
\n54:04 - The Lords
\n59:25 - The Beaters
\n1:05:01 - The Disruptive Creatures
\n1:13:20 - Aether Vial. It's good.
\n1:14:27 - Disruptive Spells
\n1:20:38 - The Lands. AKA Mutavault.
\n1:21:18 - Our playing experiences: what we played this week
\n1:22:35 - Dave on Azorius Merfolk
\n1:27:30 - Shane on Simic Merfolk
\n1:33:55 - Stan on Mystic Reflection Combo Fish
\n1:44:22 - What Merfolk does well, and what it doesn't
\n1:53:45 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Manatraders Metagame: https://twitter.com/YahiAnael/status/1365562502298361858?s=20
\nUW Merfolk: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3743267#paper
\nMystic Reflection Merfolk: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3765702#paper
\nSimic Merfolk: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/merfolk-decklist-by-zxrogue-1092933
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So what next? This week The Three Friends talk about each of our favorite formats in the wake of what some have claimed is the biggest set of bans in MTG history. Is it? We don't know. BUT. We do know that there's new (and old) stuff going on in Modern, Historic, and Pioneer. We will be giving you a Break Down of ALL THREE formats, talk about our experiences playing the formats, and, of course, tell you what we'd play. Shane and Stan pivot table it up while Dave just reads some line graphs out loud. It's can't miss audio content!
\n\nThe Break Down: First Modern
\nThe Break Down II: Then Historic
\nThe Break Down III: Then Pioneer
\nThe Break Down IV: Yep, All Three
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Timestamps:
\n1:28 - Housekeeping
\n4:32 - The Format-Palooza begins
\n6:16 - Modern post-ban event Break Down
\n13:47 - The winningest decks from Modern this week
\n19:00 - What's Modern about now?
\n22:26 - The NRG Open
\n31:39 - Stan's play experience
\n36:11 - Modern Cool Decks, Inc.
\n44:26 - What would we play in Modern?
\n47:21 - Historic post-ban meta Break Down
\n1:03:54 - Selensya Angels
\n1:14:26 - Golgari Elves
\n1:21:11 - What would we play in Historic?
\n1:25:14 - Pioneer post-ban event Break Down
\n1:39:41 - Pioneer Top 8s and Cool Decks, Inc
\n1:43:05 - Shane's play experience
\n1:46:00 - How is Pioneer different from Historic?
\n1:55:43 - What would we play in Pioneer?
Links from this week's episode:
\n2/20/21 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-02-21
\n2/21/21 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2021-02-22
\nNRG Modern Open: https://mtgmelee.com/Tournament/View/4904
\nSelesnya Angels: https://mtga.untapped.gg/meta/archetypes/1041/selesnya-angels?format=historic&meta=current&rank=BRONZE_TO_MYTHIC&tab=decks&wincon=bo3
\nGolgari Elves: https://mtga.untapped.gg/meta/archetypes/984/golgari-elves?format=historic&meta=previous&min-matches=100&rank=BRONZE_TO_MYTHIC&tab=decks&wincon=bo3
\n2/20/21 Pioneer Prelim: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-preliminary-2021-02-20
\n2/21/21 Pioneer Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2021-02-21
\nGrixis Release to the Wind: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3781283#paper
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Well, those were some bans. And we're here to talk about them, with our regular guest host Evart Moughon, aka Aspiringspike. We first discuss the big bans in Modern, Pioneer, and Historic, then head into the Dive Down to talk about what these changes mean for the formats themselves.
\n\nThe Break Down: They Really Really Did It
\nThe Dive Down: The Face of the New Formats
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Why Does This Keep Happening?
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Timestamps:
\n2:33 - Housekeeping
\n4:59 - The Break Down fake begins - we give Spike an open door and he runs through it
\n8:08 - The Break Down actually begins - takes on the bans
\n8:53 - WOTCs statement on why they made some bans
\n15:00 - The Modern bans - Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath
\n22:15 - Field of the Dead/Mystic Sanctuary
\n27:21 - Simian Spirit Guide
\n31:52 - Tibalt's Trickery
\n35:56 - The Cascade rule change
\n38:51 - Will Modern be more fun?
\n43:45 - The Historic ban - so they banned Uro here, too
\n51:00 - The Pioneer bans
\n52:25 - WOTC's stated vision of Pioneer
\n55:18 - Teferi, Time Raveler
\n58:10 - Balustrade Spy/Undercity Informer
\n59:00 - Will Pioneer be better now?
\n1:04:15 - Final thoughts on all of this
\n1:08:38 - The Dive Down begins
\n1:09:05 - What looks good in Modern?
\n1:21:24 - Modern's other victims
\n1:28:42 - Historic's post-ban winners
\n1:34:52 - What are the dark horses in Pioneer?
\n1:42:35 - Formats full of possibilities?
\n1:44:50 - Why does this keep happening?
\n1:58:56 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe 2/15/2021 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/february-15-2021-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\nWatch Aspiringspike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nFind Aspiringspike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/moughonevart
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\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Monday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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This week's a funny one. We set out to test some of the most recent winning decks featuring Kaldheim cards, in order to grade them on our (patent-pending) S/B/H rating system. Then, in the span of a few days, the Modern landscape shifted under our feet! So we'll still talk about those winning decks, but also about the communities iteration on Cascade Tibalt, what this means for Modern, and, as always, provide some mildly spicy takes.
\n\nThe Break Down: What
\nThe Dive Down: The
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Falki
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Timestamps:
\n1:40 - Housekeeping
\n3:47 - The Break Down begins: Two Modern Challenges
\n4:38 - Saturday Top 8
\n12:05 - Sunday Top 8
\n16:13 - A Very Valki Weekend
\n27:46 - Is there game against Valki?
\n33:32 - The Dive Down Begins: Sleeve/Believe/Heave, Tibalt ed.
\n35:34 - Jund Valki
\n1:01:35 - Tibalt’s Trickery
\n1:06:21 - 51 Land Trickery
\n1:10:46 - 8 Cascade Turbo Trickery
\n1:26:39 - Goblin Pyre
\n1:37:45 - Bant Cosima Stoneblade
\n1:44:10 - What to play?
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12258809#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12258815#paper
\nJund Valki: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3741655#paper
\nAll-in Trickery: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3741670#paper
\n8 Cascade Turbo Trickery: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3738934#paper
\nBant Cosima: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3734686#paper
\nGoblin Pyre: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/5I9yoEQ5r
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Kaldheim is out, which means there's a bunch of new great, fair decks for us to explore in our favorite formats! Hold on, I'm being handed a note.... oh wait there's some more ways to win on turn 1, as well... So this week we're testing some of the cards and decks that people are talking about, and reporting back with our findings. Before that we check out the latest Modern events to see what's changing there, and looking for Kaldheim cards that are making an impact.
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: He's Tricky
\nThe Dive Down, cont: More Impact Than Advertised
\nThe Wind Down: Arena Experiences
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Timestamps:
\n2:25 - Housekeeping
\n5:49 - The Break Down begins: Modern Events!
\n7:00 - Weekend Challenge top 8
\n11:53 - Super Qualifier top 8
\n13:35 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n18:05 - The Dive Down begins: The Impact of Kaldheim
\n19:10 - Tibalt's Trickery
\n33:30 - Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider
\n41:07 - In Search of Greatness
\n47:45 - Valki, God of Lies//Tibalt, Cosmic Imposter
\n1:04:25 - Ascendant Spirit
\n1:12:08 - Birgi, God of Storytelling//Harnfel, Horn of Bounty
\n1:23:04 - Spectral Steel
\n1:25:07 - Rise of the Dread Marn
\n1:27:33 - Immersturm Predator
\n1:30:29 - The Pathways
\n1:35:12 - The Wind Down: Arena Experiences
\n1:37:22 - Shane's January
\n1:39:40 - Dave's January
\n1:42:11 - Stan's January
\n1:44:10 - Goals for February
\n1:48:23 - Signing Off
Links from this week's episode:
\nSunday Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12256327#paper
\nSuper Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-champ-qual-2021-01-31
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This week we Dive Down into Gruul Aggro in Historic. After a strong representation and showing in the recent MPL and Rivals Historic weekend events, Gruul looks to be the tier 1 aggro deck in the format. We guide you through deck construction, piloting the deck, and playing against it! Before that, we walk through a meta breakdown on the past month or so of Modern, and are again forced to discuss a certain escaping Titan.
\n\nThe Break Down: Deep, Deep Modern Meta
\nThe Dive Down: A Truly Busted 2
\nThe Dive Down, pt. 2: A Truly Busted 6
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Timestamps:
\n5:58 - The Break Down Begins: A Modern Update
\n7:02 - January 23rd Modern Qualifier
\n11:14 - the top 32
\n14:15 - A modern meta analysis
\n22:45 - How modern feels right now (aka Uro talk)
\n30:50 - The Dive Down Begins: Gruul is Kuul
\n35:20 - How Gruul works in Historic
\n36:20 - The 1 drops
\n41:15 - The 2 drops
\n59:30 - The 3 drops
\n1:08:01 - The 4 drops and beyond
\n1:17:02 - The manabase
\n1:20:20 - Sideboarding and sideboard tactics
\n1:25:01 - Playing as Gruul
\n1:34:49 - Playing against Gruul
\n1:42:35 - Who is this deck for?
\n1:46:53 - Signing off
Links from this week's episode:
\nAlatheio's Modern Analysis: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/l31jyc/mtgo_modern_major_events_review_20201221_20210120/
\nGruul Aggro: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/gruul-aggro-9590cf15-ec7b-4014-9d20-1114d43b8370#paper
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We head back to Kaldheim for more spoiler takes, this time joined by regular guest host Evart Moughon, aka Aspiring Spike! What cards have what it takes to make an impact in Magic's non-rotating formats? We don't really know, but we have some thoughts... We also discuss the recent MPL and Rivals Historic weekend events, and break down the current meta.
\n\nThe Break Down: It's the MPL, Y'all
\nThe Dive Down: He's Finally Back
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Cards Evart Likes
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Timestamps:
\n3:00 - Housekeeping
\n5:18 - The Break Down begins: MPL and Rivals Historic weekend!
\n7:44 - A brief explanation of the MPL
\n9:55 - The overall metagame and our thoughts on the big 3
\n20:42 - Some thoughts on the Historic metagame
\n23:46 - Deck performance data
\n29:40 - The Dive Down begins: Kaldheim spoilers, Vol. 2
\n30:20 - Doomskar
\n39:18 - In Search of Greatness
\n47:20 - Mystic Reflection
\n54:38 - Magda, Brazen Outlaw
\n59:15 - Tibalt's Trickery, revisited
\n1:02:54 - Snow Duals, revisited
\n1:05:56 - Old-Growth Troll, revisited
\n1:07:27 - Valki/Tibalt, revisited
\n1:09:40 - Immersturm Predator
\n1:13:40 - Reidane, God of the Worthy
\n1:17:57 - Cosima, God of the Voyage
\n1:21:20 - Birgi, God of Storytelling
\n1:27:15 - Ascendant Spirit
\n1:29:08 - Vega, the Watcher
\n1:33:08 - Skemfar Avenger
\n1:34:19 - Jaspera Sentinal
\n1:36:25 - Toski, Bearer of Secrets
\n1:38:29 - Bind the Monster
\n1:43:46 - Parting thoughts, is this set good?
\n1:46:54 - Our Most Anticipated Cards
Links from this week's episode:
\nMTG data: https://twitter.com/mtg_data
\nh0lydiva: https://twitter.com/h0lydiva
\nBall Lightning, phd: https://twitter.com/jpball5
\nBall Lightning, phd's MPL spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bkg1UE2HxEU-2vnS-3tQbm9VwqWtsPMGh3kitGZwTL0/edit#gid=1855992740
\nKaldheim spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/khm?order=name&as=grid
Find Aspring Spike on twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart
\nand on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
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In our latest bonus episode, Modern streamer and Pyro Prison stalwart FluffyWolf2 joins us for a conversation about earning a reputation for championing a single deck, the state of Modern, and lessons learned streaming MTGO.
\n\nFind Fluffy at:
\ntwitch.tv/fluffywolf2
\ntwitter.com/fluffywolf2
\nfluffywolf2.com
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","summary":"In our latest bonus episode, Modern streamer and Pyro Prison stalwart FluffyWolf2 joins us for a conversation about earning a reputation for championing a single deck, the state of Modern, and lessons learned streaming MTGO.","date_published":"2021-01-19T02:00:00.000-06:00","attachments":[{"url":"https://chtbl.com/track/51873/aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/5bd6807c-00c5-46e4-adc4-16a210c13c0c/2beed081-c4ac-4057-9fce-7b98bb21148e.mp3","mime_type":"audio/mpeg","size_in_bytes":66224716,"duration_in_seconds":4138}]},{"id":"22c960e5-778f-42c9-b86a-3ea47215fb64","title":"Episode 107: Kaldheim Spoilers: Hot Takes on Cool Cards, Vol. 1","url":"https://thedivedown.fireside.fm/107","content_text":"The first batch of Kaldheim spoilers have dropped, and we're here to provide our patent-pending hot takes. We answer important questions like: what Izzet card will Stan overrate, what Green 5-drop will Shane think just might work, and what reasonable stance will Dave take on every card we discuss? Prior to that we finish up our mutual journey through Zendikar Rising by finding some Cool Decks for our latest installment of Cool Decks, Inc.\n\nThe Break Down: Gazpacho Decks, Inc.\nThe Dive Down, pt 1: Cards Dave Loves\nThe Dive Down, pt 2: Cards Shane & Stan Hate\n\nDownload the FREE Untapped Companion to track your stats, see your decklists, get details on your performance and more! Use our link to help us out without spending anything: https://mtga.untapped.gg/companion?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=divedown\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown\nGet 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code \"thedivedown\"\n\nTimestamps:\n3:33 - Housekeeping\n6:51 - The Break Down Begins: Cool Decks Inc\n7:37 - Bant Snowblade\n10:01 - Boros Land Destruction\n13:39 - 4C Lutri\n16:35 - The Dive Down Begins: Kaldheim Spoilers\n19:03 - Kaldheim Mechanics\n38:44 - Snow Duals\n42:53 - Tibatl’s Trickery\n48:49 - Alrund, God of the Cosmos\n53:35 - Annul \n54:21 - Behold the Multiverse\n57:40 - Dragon Berserker\n1:01:25 - Esika, God of the Tree\n1:05:47 - Goldspan Dragon\n1:09:00 - Kaya’s Onslaught\n1:11:39 - Koll, the Forgemaster\n1:15:19 - Niko Aris\n1:18:47 - Old-Growth Troll\n1:23:33 - Ravenform\n1:26:23 - Rise of the Dread Marn\n1:29:24 - Saw It Coming\n1:33:37 - Spectral Steel\n1:35:28 - Valki, God of Lies\n1:43:37 - Our Parting Thoughts\n\nLinks from this week's episode:\nNiambi Stoneblade: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3678247#paper\nBoros Land Destruction: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3678255\n4C Lutri: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3671439#paper\nKaldheim mechanics: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/kaldheim-mechanics-2021-01-07\nKaldheim spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/khm?order=name&as=grid\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Monday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown","content_html":"The first batch of Kaldheim spoilers have dropped, and we're here to provide our patent-pending hot takes. We answer important questions like: what Izzet card will Stan overrate, what Green 5-drop will Shane think just might work, and what reasonable stance will Dave take on every card we discuss? Prior to that we finish up our mutual journey through Zendikar Rising by finding some Cool Decks for our latest installment of Cool Decks, Inc.
\n\nThe Break Down: Gazpacho Decks, Inc.
\nThe Dive Down, pt 1: Cards Dave Loves
\nThe Dive Down, pt 2: Cards Shane & Stan Hate
Download the FREE Untapped Companion to track your stats, see your decklists, get details on your performance and more! Use our link to help us out without spending anything: https://mtga.untapped.gg/companion?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=divedown
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Timestamps:
\n3:33 - Housekeeping
\n6:51 - The Break Down Begins: Cool Decks Inc
\n7:37 - Bant Snowblade
\n10:01 - Boros Land Destruction
\n13:39 - 4C Lutri
\n16:35 - The Dive Down Begins: Kaldheim Spoilers
\n19:03 - Kaldheim Mechanics
\n38:44 - Snow Duals
\n42:53 - Tibatl’s Trickery
\n48:49 - Alrund, God of the Cosmos
\n53:35 - Annul
\n54:21 - Behold the Multiverse
\n57:40 - Dragon Berserker
\n1:01:25 - Esika, God of the Tree
\n1:05:47 - Goldspan Dragon
\n1:09:00 - Kaya’s Onslaught
\n1:11:39 - Koll, the Forgemaster
\n1:15:19 - Niko Aris
\n1:18:47 - Old-Growth Troll
\n1:23:33 - Ravenform
\n1:26:23 - Rise of the Dread Marn
\n1:29:24 - Saw It Coming
\n1:33:37 - Spectral Steel
\n1:35:28 - Valki, God of Lies
\n1:43:37 - Our Parting Thoughts
Links from this week's episode:
\nNiambi Stoneblade: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3678247#paper
\nBoros Land Destruction: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3678255
\n4C Lutri: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3671439#paper
\nKaldheim mechanics: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/kaldheim-mechanics-2021-01-07
\nKaldheim spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/khm?order=name&as=grid
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Monday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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This week we asked our patrons to tell us what deck to do our next dive on, and they chose one of the up-and-comers of Modern: Hammer Time. And what do you know, it performed incredibly well at the ManaTraders Modern Tournament and put 4 decks into the latest Challenge top 8. What timing! We first go deep on the ManaTraders tourny, then head into the Dive Down to provide a thorough overview of Hammer Time: how do the pieces work together, how you should think about playing it, and how people will try to hate you out.
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern Manatraders Meta Madness
\nThe Dive Down: The 0s and 1s
\nThe Dive Down, cont: The 2s and +10/+10s
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Timestamps:
\n2:39 - Housekeeping
\n6:39 - Break Down Begins
\n8:03 - Dave’s Tournament Report
\n12:36 - Manatraders Modern Metagame
\n40:27 - Dive Down Begins - Hammer Time
\n41:31 - What is Hammer Time?
\n48:44 - Steelshaper’s Gift & other cards that get hammers
\n51:50 - Sigarda’s Aid & other cards that cheat on equipment costs
\n58:42 - Ornithopter & other cards that wield hammers
\n1:03:41 - Mishra’s Bauble & other support cards
\n1:15:03 - Auriok Champion & other sideboard cards
\n1:19:23 - Playing the deck to various levels of success
\n1:27:14 - Keep or Mulls
\n1:32:43 - How to beat Hammer Time
\n1:37:48 - Why is Hammer so good right now?
\n1:42:14 - Who is this deck for & other parting thoughts
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Monday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
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2020 is a year that did, in fact, happen. And we are here to talk about the year of Magic: The Gathering and our place in it. And maybe make fun of our bad takes. We review Modern, Pioneer, and Historic through 2020, talk about our favorite (and least favorit cards) from the year, review our best (and worst) picks to click, and more! Thanks for your amazing support through 2020. We appreciate you.
\n\nDownload the FREE Untapped Companion to track your stats, see your decklists, get details on your performance and more! Use our link to help us out without spending anything: https://mtga.untapped.gg/companion?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=divedown
\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\nGet 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"
Timestamps:
\n3:05 - Housekeeping
\n7:00 - 2020 begins with hope
\n9:00 - The loss of paper and gain of virtual
\n13:18 - Modern in 2020
\n30:54 - Pioneer in 2020
\n38:40 - Historic (and magic arena) in 2020
\n57:40 - Part 2: A year of The Dive Down
\n58:00 - Our favorite eps of the year
\n1:05:40 - Favorite deck and card dives
\n1:23:40 - Our best and worst picks to click
\n1:30:11 - Our worst sleeve/believe/heave take
\n1:33:30 - Our favorite cards of the year
\n1:37:02 - Our least favorite cards of the year
\n1:40:55 - Our best MTG experiences of the year
\n1:42:40 - Guests of the year
\n1:44:43 - Was 2020 a good year for MTG?
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nWatch us stream our episodes every Monday night at 8pm Central: https://www.twitch.tv/thedivedown_shane
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week we take a journey into the ManaTraders Modern Tournament Series. We talk about the decks we played with and against, potential mental and strategic approaches to events like these, and some hot hot takes about Modern and Magic. We also spend some time talking about Stan's recent successes, and the first batch of Kaldheim spoilers!
\n\nThe Break Down: Stan's Satellite Results!
\nThe Dive Down: Our Manatraders Results!
\nThe Wind Down: Kaldheim Spoiler Results!
Download the FREE Untapped Companion to track your stats, see your decklists, get details on your performance and more! Use our link to help us out without spending anything: https://mtga.untapped.gg/companion?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=divedown
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Timestamps:
\n3:29 - Housekeeping
\n6:02 - The Break Down begins: Stan’s SCG Tour Online Report
\n14:20 - New Insights on Historic Neostorm
\n25:12 - The Dive Down begins: Introducing the Manatraders Modern Qualifiers
\n34:30 - Who’s Playing in Manatraders Qualifiers?
\n39:50 - N=31 Metagame Analysis
\n46:30 - Trying to qualify with Elves, Bogles, and Ponza
\n52:38 - Trying to qualify with UR Prowess
\n1:01:16 - Trying to qualify with Mono-Red and GW Titan
\n1:15:36 - Let’s Talk About Modern…
\n1:22:38 - Tournament Takeaways
\n1:36:15 - The Wind Down begins: Kaldheim Spoilers, part 1
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe December Manatraders tournament: https://www.manatraders.com/tournaments/9
\nOngoing Kaldheim Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/khm?order=spoiled&as=grid
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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This week The Dive Down goes back to Historic. After bursting out briefly in song, the crew breaks down the metagame from last weekend's SCG Satellite Tournaments and reels in shock from one or two insights. Dave manages to make a recap of the Arena Open all about him. Stan is unsurprised. Shane is amused. After that we dive down into three of the best decks in Historic... that we haven't spoken about that much yet.
\n\nThe Break Down: Satellite Results
\nThe Break Down, pt 2: Customer Servicing into Day 2
\nThe Dive Down: Best Titans, Best Wizards, Best Cats
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Timestamps:
\n1:50 - Housekeeping
\n6:56 - SCG Historic Satellites
\n28:56 - Dave Plays the Arena Open
\n40:35 - The Dive Down Begins
\n43:07 - Shane Plays Historic Sultai
\n1:11:01 - Stan Plays Historic Neostorm
\n1:29:36 - Dave Also Plays Historic Sacrifice
\n1:49:05 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nStan's Lovely Star City Breakdown:
\nhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jw2JuAFYQmldURZrqr1IkeLn51tsThogo6DWvqSM4wM/edit#gid=0
\nCool Decks Inc, #1 (Izzet): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3620885#paper
\nCool Decks Inc, #2 (Sultai Explore): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3622893#paper
\nDave's Auras Open List (Bo1): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3624511#paper
\nDave's Auras Open List (Bo2): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3624523#paper
\nShane's Sultai: https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/kyleboggemes-11262020-sultai-midrange-in-historic
\nStan's Neoform: https://tinyurl.com/y8tyomw4
\nDave's Rakdos Sac: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3624554#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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It's time for another top-tier Patron request episode! This time, long-time citizen of the nation Sean asked us to talk about tribal decks. We cover the history of tribes in Magic, common aspects of tribal decks, and do a Sleeve/Believe/Heave of some of the less popular tribes of Modern. Prior to that, we spend a long time breaking down the Historic decks and meta of the Zendikar Rising Championship that took place last weekend!
\n\nThe Break Down: A Historic Championship
\nThe Dive Down: Tribe Talk
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Which Deck Will Stan Qualify With?
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\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
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Timestamps:
\n4:27 - Housekeeping
\n9:42 - The Break Down: Championship Chat
\n12:20 - The Championship meta
\n21:40 - The Top 64 meta
\n29:05 - The Top 8
\n41:03 - Some takes
\n45:13 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n50:25 - The Dive Down: Tribal Time
\n53:02 - A brief history of tribes in Magic
\n58:38 - What are the common features of these decks?
\n1:02:58 - The lords and lieutenants of tribal decks
\n1:10:55 - The best cards for tribal decks
\n1:13:40 - Testing lesser-known tribal decks: 5-Color Elementals
\n1:29:03 - Goblins Combo
\n1:35:50 - 8-Whack Goblins
\n1:40:44 - Slivers
\n1:53:22 - Tribal takeaways
\n1:57:03 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nZendikar Rising Championship Coverage: https://magic.gg/events/zendikar-rising-championship
\n5-Color Elementals: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3574926#paper
\nGoblin Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/goblins#paper
\n8-Whack: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3468163#paper
\nSlivers: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/slivers-decklist-by-justburn420-1060211
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
For the first week of our NEXT 100 episodes, we finally took the plunge into Magic Arena's non-rotating format: Historic. We will help you understand how to assess and buy into Historic, what the decks and meta are like, what playing on Arena is like, and our thoughts on if Best of One is really Magic.... Enjoy the beginning of a new podcast adventure!
\n\nThe Dive Down: 88 Goblins
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Pants, Pants, Pants
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Gruul Smash
Download the FREE Untapped Companion to track your stats, see your decklists, get details on your performance and more! Use our link to help us out without spending anything: https://mtga.untapped.gg/companion?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=divedown
\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
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Timestamps:
\n3:35 - Housekeeping
\n7:07 - The Dive Down: The Dive Down Does Historic
\n7:33 - Why are we covering Historic?
\n23:00 - What does this mean for The Dive Down?
\n26:42 - What were our expectations for Historic?
\n28:33 - How can you buy into Historic, and the economy of Arena
\n41:00 - The meta and decks in Historic
\n43:07 - Quick sidebar: how much Historic did we play?
\n46:53 - The decks of Historic:
\n47:40 - Azorius Auras
\n57:40 - Mono-Red Goblins
\n1:05:58 - Gruul Aggro
\n1:13:04 - Sultai Midrange
\n1:19:30 - Rakdos Sacrifice
\n1:23:07 - Other decks in brief
\n1:28:08 - Our thoughts on Historic's meta
\n1:31:43 - Best of One vs. Best of Three
\n1:39:30 - The competition on Arena
\n1:43:15 - Monitoring the Historic meta and some economy talk
\n1:49:45 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nMono-Red Goblins: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/historic-goblins-3896#paper
\nAzorius Auras: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/historic-azorius-aggro#paper
\nGruul Aggro: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3575700#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
It's Episode 100, so we pulled out all the stops for a live streamed recording of mini-dives into the 100 most important/cool/powerful decks of Modern, from inception to today. That's... a lot of decks! Join us for an extra-long episode full of fun and surprises!
\n\nWe would have never made it to 100 episodes without the ongoing engagement and generous support from all of you out there in The Dive Down Nation. Thank you so much for being part of who we are as a podcast community.
\n\nPlease support our charity drive for Feeding America, the United States' largest domestic hunger relief campaign, by donating here: https://streamlabscharity.com/@thedivedown-shane/the-dive-down-nation-helps-feed-america
\n\nThe Break Down: One
\nThe Dive Down: Hundred
\nThe Wind Down: Decks
Timestamps:
\n3:50 - Housekeeping
\n8:33 - Decks 100 to 75
\n38:49 - Decks 74 to 50
\n1:02:36 - Decks 49 to 26
\n1:28:09 - The Top 25 Modern Decks!
Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\nGet 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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AGAIN! Please support our charity drive for Feeding America by donating here: https://streamlabscharity.com/@thedivedown-shane/the-dive-down-nation-helps-feed-america
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\n\nThe Break Down: Cool Decks Inc.
\nThe Dive Down: All of our favorite stuff!
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Timestamps:
\n3:50 - Housekeeping
\n5:55 - An Historic announcement
\n8:33 - The Break Down: Cool Decks, Inc.
\n8:54 - Rakdos Hollow Storm
\n13:50 - Golgari Infect
\n18:21 - 4-Color Flashback
\n24:38 - Izzet Control ft. Kiki-Jiki
\n30:00 - The Dive Down : A few of our favorite things
\n30:57 - Our favorite cards that aren't good enough for Modern anymore
\n36:04 - Our favorite sideboard hate cards
\n42:28 - Our favorite matchups
\n45:54 - Our favorite overheard comment at a Magic event
\n51:45 - Our favorite piece of MTG bling
\n55:22 - Our favorite judge interaction
\n59:26 - Our favorite draft format
\n1:04:42 - Our favorite non-sanctioned MTG format
\n1:07:27 - Our favorite books we have read more than once
\n1:16:03 - Our favorite albums
\n1:16:48 - Our favorite movies
\n1:17:07 - Our favorite Legacy cards
\n1:18:22 - Our favorite weird rules interaction
\n1:20:24 - Our favorite cards of 2020
\n1:28:30 - Our favorite decks ever
\n1:31:32 - Our favorite cards to imprint onto Isochron Scepter
\n1:32:38 - Our favorite flavor text
\n1:35:08 - How good do you want to get at Magic?
\n1:40:00 - Our favorite playmats
\n1:40:21 - Our favorite ways to win games
\n1:41:01 - Our favorite deck names
\n1:41:40 - Our favorite mtg slang
\n1:42:52 - Our favorite Magic art or artist
\n1:44:05 - Our favorite color shifted cards
\n1:45:30 - The Wind Down: Join us for TDD EP 100 — LIVE!
Links from this week's episode:
\nRakdos Hollow Storm: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3541194#paper
\nGolgari Infect: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3537083#paper
\n4-Color Flashback: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3541195#paper
\nIzzet Kiki-Jiki: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3543682#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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We spend this week looking at an up-and-coming deck in Modern: Mono-White Taxes. We spend some time looking at the history of Taxes decks, how this deck works, and if we think it's actually that good. Before that we breeze through some Modern Challenge and Qualifier results from Magic Online.
\n\nThe Break Down: Challenging Tournaments
\nThe Dive Down: Challenging Sandwiches
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Challenging Playpatterns
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Timestamps:
\n2:36 - Housekeeping
\n7:26 - The Break Down begins
\n16:01 - Meta takeaways
\n19:45 - The Dive Down begins - Auditing Mono-White Taxes
\n21:45 - Why do people want this deck to work?
\n28:14 - The older Modern Taxes decks
\n35:10 - Why Death & Taxes is back
\n40:55 - The general anatomy of D&T
\n45:23 - Our initial takes
\n51:45 - The one-drops
\n57:30 - The two-drops
\n1:08:20 - The three-drops
\n1:25:00 - Land destruction
\n1:30:15 - How to play with Stoneforge Mystic and the equipment
\n1:38:34 - Sideboarding
\n1:39:43 - Is Taxes good?
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Modern Qualifier: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-champs-12223552#paper
\nSunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12223585#paper
\nSaturday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12223580#paper
\nMono-White Taxes: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3519870#paper
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In our latest bonus episode, musician and comedian MTGRemy joins us for a conversation about making Magic-inspired parody songs and sketches for YouTube.
\n\nRemy's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/mtgremy
\nRemy's Twitter: https://twitter.com/mtgremy
\nRemy's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mtgremy
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\n\nThe Break Down: A Call From Corporate
\nThe Dive Down: A History Lesson
\nThe Dive Down, cont: A Performance Review
Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
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Timestamps:
\n3:21 - Housekeeping
\n7:59 - The Break Down Begins - Pioneer Challenges
\n22:20 - The Dive Down Begins - Pioneer, A Year in Review
\n25:44 - A Spike’s History of Pioneer’s Launch
\n35:10 - The Initial Round of Pioneer Bannings
\n40:06 - Pioneer First Golden Age
\n41:50 - Enter Theros Beyond Death
\n47:00 - The Companion Era Begins
\n49:27 - We’ve Been Told the Combo Decks Are Fine
\n52:39 - Combo Cards Banned, Pioneer is Saved(?)
\n57:04 - What the Pioneer Meta Looks Like Today
\n1:01:44 - Year 1 Takeaways
\n1:04:16 - Performance Reviews are Due
\n1:07:08 - How Has Pioneer Performed on its Goals?
\n1:20:50 - What Obstacles Should Pioneer Overcome?
\n1:31:54 - What Opportunities Does Pioneer Have Ahead?
\n1:37:45 - Decisions, Decisions
\n1:41:44 - Shane's Bottom Line: Pioneer is Fundamentally A Good Idea
\n1:43:10 - Dave's Bottom Line: It's Not the Gameplay's Fault
\n1:44:30 - Stan's Bottom Line: Dave is Right
Links from this week's episode:
\n10/24/20 Pio Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12221068#paper
\n10/25/20 Pio Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12221072#paper
\nAbe Stein "Defining the Pillars of Pioneer": https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/defining-the-pillars-of-pioneer/
\nPioneer announced: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-pioneer-format-2019-10-21
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week Stan and Shane pair up to explore what can make Magic great, and why Modern has been a fan favorite in 2020. Before that, we look at a quartet of Modern and Pioneer challenges to see where the meta is headed.
\n\nThe Break Down: Breaking it Down
\nThe Dive Down: Building it Up
\nThe Wind Down: Moving it Around
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Timestamps:
\n4:43 - Housekeeping
\n8:44 - The Break Down begins
\n9:28 - Modern Challenges
\n22:37 - The Modern Challenge Meta
\n24:40 - Pioneer Challenges
\n28:02 - The Pioneer Challenge Meta
\n33:06 - The Dive Down begins - The Unifying Theory of Good Magic Formats
\n37:55 - Laying out the signs of a healthy format
\n44:38 - Evaluating diversity in Modern
\n53:46 - What is good gameplay?
\n1:03:47 - What are the different incentives to play Modern?
\n1:12:22 - What are the untapped possibilities in Modern?
\n1:21:48 - How can a good format go bad?
\n1:31:12 - The Wind Down - Moving it Around
\n1:40:56 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nModern challenge #1: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12218052#paper
\nModern challenge #2: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12218058#paper
\nPioneer challenge #1: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12218055#paper
\nPioneer challenge #2: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12218059#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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In the first installment of "We Did It For Science," we look at two cards we just aren't (or weren't) that interested in playing with: Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath and Omnath, Locus of Creation. Are these cards good, REALLY good, or TOO good? You're going to have to listen to find out. Before that, we take a (fairly) quick look at a few recent Challenges to see what's going on in the metagame.
\n\nThe Break Down: Always Challenging
\nThe Dive Down: Jump Into the Pile
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Four Arms to Hold You
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Timestamps:
\n4:04 - Housekeeping
\n9:50 - The Break Down begins - the Pioneer Championship Qualifier
\n23:03 - The Modern Challenge
\n31:55 - The Dive Down begins: We Did It For Science vol 1
\n34:19 - Why are we doing this?
\n37:05 - Why do we hate these cards?
\n45:29 - Why are these cards good? - Uro
\n54:03 - Omnath
\n57:25 - What are people doing with these cards?
\n1:06:03 - Our experiences: Dave plays Modern
\n1:16:30 - Shane plays pioneer
\n1:26:07 - Are Baneslayers becoming Mulldrifters?
\n1:33:15 - Is the juice worth the squeeze? (AKA our takes)
\n1:45:09 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Pioneer Championship Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-champ-qual-2020-10-12
\nThe Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-10-12#decklists
\nModern 4-Color Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3463389#paper
\nPioneer 4-Color Omnath: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3470841#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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Stan and Shane are on their own this week, so they talk about their recent playtesting in Modern and Pioneer in a vaguely Sleeve/Believe/Heave part two. Before that, they go over the weekend's Pioneer and Modern Showcase Challenges to see what's performing well and what the meta looks like. And then they finish with an extended Wind Down where they answer a bunch of listener questions.
\n\nThe Break Down: Dave's Not Here, Man
\nThe Break Down, pt. 2: Just Kidding
\nThe Dive Down: Stan and Shane Play Decks!
\nThe Wind Down: Getting Personal
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Timestamps:
\n4:19 - Housekeeping
\n8:15 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer and Modern Showcase Challenges
\n18:10 - The Pioneer Showcase top 32 meta
\n20:10 - Why Pioneer differs from Modern
\n23:40 -The Modern Showcase Challenge
\n36:21 - The Modern Showcase top 32 meta
\n40:33 - The Dive Down begins
\n42:18 - Chonky Gruul in Pioneer
\n52:45 - Boros Wizards in Pioneer
\n1:02:40 - A new Jeskai Fires in Modern
\n1:21:00 - Rakdos Sacrifice in Pioneer (briefly)
\n1:24:35 - The Wind Down begins: Listener questions!
\n1:25:05 - What is the origin story of The Dive Down?
\n1:28:32 - Who taught you how to play Magic, and how wrong did you have it?
\n1:31:43 - What is your favorite sound?
\n1:34:43 - What other formats are you exploring?
\n1:39:25 - What is your most memorable Halloween costume?
\n1:42:29 - What is your biggest misplay?
\n1:44:31 - What are your favorite LGS's you've been to?
Links from this week's episode:
\n10/4/2020 Pioneer Showcase Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-showcase-challenge-2020-10-05
\n10/4/2020 Modern Showcase Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-showcase-challenge-2020-10-04#decklists
\nChonky Gruul: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3451939#paper
\nBoros Wizards: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3451938#paper
\nRakdos Sacrifice: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3448907#paper
\nJeskai (wild)Fires: https://t.co/XWe7YiWHMQ?amp=1
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week we apply our patent-pending Sleeve/Believe/Heave rating system to 3 potentially breakout Modern and Pioneer decks. Are they the real deal, or not worth your time? Only one way to find out. Prior to that, we look at the winning decks and statistics from the most recent Manatraders Modern tournament.
\n\nThe Break Down: Manatraders Modern 15k
\nThe Dive Down: Oops All Spells!
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Oops No Life!
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Timestamps:
\n1:45 - Housekeeping
\n5:17 - Break Down Begins
\n9:20 - Manatraders Top 8
\n19:22 - Metagame Share & Win Rates
\n23:50 - Top 10 Cards
\n31:48 - Dive Down Begins
\n37:00 - Modern Mono-White Taxes
\n1:02:04 - Pioneer Oops All Lands
\n1:24:45 - Modern Rakdos Shadow
\n1:44:48 - Shane’s Goonhammer Articles
Links from this week's episode:
\nqbturtle's white taxes: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3424897#paper
\nAluren85's oops, all spells: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3432467#paper
\ntrunks123's rakdos aggro: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3427687#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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We take a good, long look at the latest decks, trends, and strategies in Modern and Pioneer, but this time with the cards of Zendikar Rising! We start with Cool Decks (and cards!), Inc, as we look through 2 Modern and 2 Pioneer Challenges. Then we head into The Dive Down and do a mini-dive on Gruul Goblin Charbelcher, and look at changes to Jeskai, Mill, and Death's Shadow. And look suspiciously at Omnath...
\n\nThe Break Down: Challenging Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Recrossing, Reforging, Rebelching
\nThe Dive Down, cont: Other Concerning Things
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Timestamps:
\n2:11 - Housekeeping
\n4:26 - The Break Down begins - early results with Zendikar Rising
\n4:50 - 2 Modern Challenges
\n29:00 - 2 Pioneer Challenges
\n44:30 - The Dive Down begins
\n46:01 - Gruul Goblin Charbelcher
\n1:06:23 - Cleansing Jeskai
\n1:16:05 - Mill
\n1:22:10 - Omnath Piles
\n1:32:40 - Naya Winota (Pioneer)
\n1:35:49 - Shadow Decks
\n1:39:10 - Hot Takes on ZDR
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe 9/19 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-09-20
\nThe 9/20 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-09-21
\nThe 9/19 Pioneer Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-09-20
\nThe 9/20 Pioneer Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-09-21
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Stan's on vacation, which means we get to have Evart Moughon (aka AspiringSpike) on as a returning guest host to talk about the second week of Zendikar Rising spoilers. We revisit some cards from last week to get Evart's takes and give some more picks to click from the latest set. Before that, we look at some Modern and Pioneer Challenges to see what's happening in the meta.
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern & Pioneer Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: A Few Redos
\nThe Dive Down, cont: The Last of the Spoilers
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Timestamps:
\n2:47 - Housekeeping
\n5:07 - The Break Down begins - recent Modern events
\n25:25 - Evart's favorite decks in Modern right now
\n29:55 - 2 Pioneer challenges
\n39:27 - The Dive Down begins
\n39:51 - How Evart evaluates spoilers
\n41:54 - Pathway lands revisited
\n46:22 - Agadeem's Awakening
\n48:27 - The spell lands revisited
\n52:07 - Nahiri, Heir of the Ancients revisited
\n54:53 - Cleansing Wildfire revisited
\n57:22 - Roiling Vortex
\n1:00:49 - Thieving Skydiver
\n1:02:39 - Omnath, Locus of Creation
\n1:04:53 - Emeria's Call and Ondu Inversion
\n1:06:30 - Forsaken Monument
\n1:10:54 - Ruin Crab
\n1:13:16 - Wayward Guidebeast
\n1:16:31 - Inscription of Ruin
\n1:20:12 - Feed the Swarm
\n1:23:25 - Deliberate
\n1:25:15 - Archon of Emeria
\n1:27:47 - Grakmaw the Skyclave Ravager
\n1:30:29 - Lullmage's Domination
\n1:32:48 - Legion Angel
\n1:34:45 - Lithoform Blight
\n1:36:37 - Maul of the Skyclaves
\n1:38:26 - Felidar Retreat
\n1:40:28 - Sea-Gate Stormcaller revisited
\n1:43:26 - Evart's biggest picks to click
\n1:45:04 - Evart's early brews
\n1:46:07 - Fighting Uro in Modern
\n1:47:45 - Finding Evart
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe 9/13 Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12206263#paper
\nThe 9/12 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12206260#paper
\nThe 9/13 Pioneer Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12206264#paper
\nZendikar Rising spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/znr?order=spoiled
\nWatch Aspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nFind Aspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart
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We take a look at the first batch of spoilers from Zendikar Rising and identify some picks to click from the upcoming set. Before that, we have a conversation about the 2021 Magic roadmap in a non-meta Break Down!
\n\nThe Break Down: DDN FNM MTGG
\nThe Break Down, cont: Cool Set, Inc.
\nThe Dive Down: Spoilers, Spoilers, Spoilers!
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Timestamps:
\n3:58 - Housekeeping
\n7:31 - The Break Down begins - the 2021 release schedule!
\n9:58 - Modern Horizons 2
\n16:54 - Kaldheim
\n19:34 - Time Spiral Remastered
\n24:27 - Strixhaven
\n27:23 - Forgotten Realms
\n31:30 - Innistrad V3
\n38:10 - The Dive Down begins - Zendikar Rising Spoilers, pt. 1
\n38:40 - How we evaluate spoilers
\n41:50 - The mechanics of Zendikar Rising
\n43:41 - The Pathway Lands
\n54:27 - The other modal lands
\n1:02:31 - The Planeswalkers
\n1:12:40 - Cool Landfall cards, and some thoughts on Landfall
\n1:17:33 - Sea Gate Stormcaller
\n1:23:05 - Scourge of the Skyclaves
\n1:27:51 - Skyclave Apparition
\n1:29:50 - Luminarch Aspirant
\n1:31:54 - Fissure Wizard
\n1:34:05 - Crawling Barrens
\n1:37:27 - Cleansing Wildfire
\n1:42:20 - Leyline Tyrant
\n1:46:20 - Magmatic Channeler
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Dive Down Nation FNM: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/the-dive-down-nation-modern-fnm-09-04-edition#paper
\nZendikar Rising spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/znr?order=spoiled
\nThe 2021 release schedule: https://articles.starcitygames.com/news/wotc-unveils-2021-mtg-release-schedule/
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This week we revisit Dredge! In our first repeat deck dive, we talk about what's changed for the deck, how that makes it better.. or worse.. or just different? What did playing this deck feel like in the current meta? What's up with Silversmote Ghoul? Before that, we dive into 3 recent Modern tournaments to see what's up.
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern MOCS & Challenges
\nThe Break down, pt.2: More Cool Decks, Inc.
\nThe Dive Down: Shane Beeps Returns to Play
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Timestamps:
\n4:30 - Housekeeping
\n7:09 - The Break Down begins
\n9:11 - The Showcase Qualifier
\n17:20 - Saturday's Modern Challenge
\n25:09 - Sunday's Modern Challenge
\n31:08 - Metagame thoughts
\n35:02 - The Dive Down begins - Dredge 2: The Redredgining
\n38:35 - What's changed for Dredge pt.1
\n42:16 - A brief history of Dredge
\n46:52 - Why is Dredge powerful, and how is it winning?
\n51:30 - What's in the deck
\n57:10 - The impact of Silversmote Ghoul
\n1:07:20 - The mana and mana needs of the deck
\n1:11:12 - What's changed for Dredge pt.2
\n1:14:15 - A brief mulligan discussion
\n1:19:24 - A brief strategic aside about stops/timing
\n1:20:30 - Ten Things We Like About Oxen
\n1:30:10 - New hate cards
\n1:37:41 - What playing Dredge felt like
Links from this week's episode:
\nSaturday's challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12201349#paper
\nSunday's challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12201355#paper
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This week it's back to Modern for the TDD crew as they peruse Prelim pivots for a format pulse and then dive into one of the oldest and Izzetest decks in Modern — Gifts Storm. Stan gets emotional. Dave gets self-deprecating. Shane gets quiet. It's another week on The Dive Down.
\n\nHousekeeping: A Winner is Announced!
\nThe Break Down: Surprises in the Modern Prelims
\nThe Dive Down: Grapeshot: The Gift That Keeps on Giving
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Timestamps:
\n3:45 - Housekeeping
\n8:25 - The Break Down: Surprises in the Modern Prelims
\n21:22 - The Winner's Meta and some takes
\n25:51 - Cool Decks, Inc.
\n31:55 - The Dive Down: Grapeshot: The Gift that keeps on giving
\n34:10 - Why Storm?
\n36:14 - How Storm is designed
\n42:13 - The cost-reducing creatures
\n51:10 - Gifts Ungiven, Grapeshot, and other key cards
\n1:14:21 - The Gifts Packages
\n1:22:02 - The sideboard
\n1:26:29 - Beating Storm
\n1:35:12 - How we feel about Storm
\n1:39:02 - The Wind Down - P. Sully's Bonus
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For this bonus ep, we welcome Patrick Sullivan to the pod to talk Magic, game design, and broadcasting! He shares some great insights with us from his long career in gaming.
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First on this week's show, the TDD crew do a quick check in on Pioneer a couple of weeks after the bannings. After that they do a deep dive into the financial implications of Double Masters and chat about how they approach the most fun part of Magic in general — buying stuff. Turns out it's more complicated than even Shane thought.
\n\nThe Break Down: Pioneer Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Double the Masters
\nThe Double Dive Down: Putting the Fun in Financial
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Timestamps:
\n3:11 - Housekeeping
\n4:49 - The First Dive Down GIVEAWAY!
\n7:48 - The Break Down begins - Pioneer Prelim Power
\n20:08 - The Winner's meta
\n31:21 - What's catching our eyes
\n32:47 - The Dive Down begins
\n36:37 - Magic is expensive
\n38:15 - Reprint sets: when Magic goes on sale
\n41:57 - What we're buying from 2XM
\n51:56 - The decks on sale right now
\n57:00 - One reason Modern is still expensive, even on sale
\n1:00:53 - Other ways to save money on Magic cards
\n1:08:30 - Buylisting for fun and.... profit?
\n1:14:20 - Why pay more than the absolute least?
\n1:20:30 - Playtesting before you buy
\n1:26:25 - The financial trap cards
\n1:33:35 - Budget MTG resources
\n1:35:24 - Maintaining a Magic budget
\n1:40:54 - The Wind Down - How do we handle Magic FOMO?
\n1:48:20 - Closing out
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This week we break down the post-ban Pioneer Challenges and Prelims and talk about what's over and under-performing. Then we head into the Dive Down to talk about our experiences playing Pioneer, our thoughts on the state of the format, and answer some listener questions!
\n\nThe Break Down: Pioneer is Back, Baybee!
\nThe Dive Down: Are We Having Fun Yet?
\nThe Wind Down: Dive Down is that You? It's Me, Listeners.
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Timestamps:
\n2:35 - Housekeeping
\n5:25 - The Break Down begins
\n7:58 - The overall competitive meta
\n25:27 - The winner's meta
\n28:17 - Cool decks!
\n36:10 - Hot takes on Pioneer
\n41:54 - The Dive Down begins
\n43:51 - What players were talking about
\n47:39 - What we were playing this week
\n50:49 - How did our decks feel?
\n1:03:00 - What we saw being played
\n1:10:25 - Was anything feeling under or overpowered?
\n1:16:00 - A digression - what makes Magic fun?
\n1:22:32 - Are the best cards and decks too good?
\n1:28:00 - Is the format healthier now?
\n1:31:20 - Listener questions! Does Uro make aggro unplayable?
\n1:35:28 - Does Pioneer need Bolt, Path, and better Counterspells?
\n1:39:10 - What would we play in a Pioneer GP?
\n1:41:25 - Will Pioneer be played when paper comes back?
\n1:45:12 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSimic Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3283075#paper
\nAbzan Aristocrats https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3279021#paper
\nInverterless Inverter https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3283205#paper
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This week we break down the 4 new bans in Pioneer, and talk about what this means for the format! In the Dive Down we go over the many flavors of Prowess in Modern: Red, Izzet, Gruul, Rakdos - how to choose?!
\n\nThe Break Down: A Lovely Surprise Banning!
\nThe Dive Down: Not Everyone's Tempo
\nThe Dive Down, cont: We Could Bolt or Not Bolt Forever
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Timestamps:
\n2:48 - Housekeeping
\n6:11 - The Break Down begins: SURPRISE BANS!
\n26:35 - Takes on the bans
\n32:39 - The Dive Down begins: The many flavors of Prowess
\n36:35 - A Red Prowess Primer
\n52:19 - Hey.... what's tempo?
\n57:35 - The decks we covered
\n1:04:06 - Izzet Prowess
\n1:09:45 - A strategic digression - the tempo of Prowess
\n1:14:55 - Back to Izzet Prowess
\n1:17:14 - Gruul Prowess
\n1:25:13 - Rakdos Prowess
\n1:33:40 - Burn vs. Prowess
\n1:39:08 - Why cast the "bad" spells of Prowess?
\n1:44:57 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe August 8, 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-8-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\nIzzet Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234953#paper
\nGruul Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234957#paper
\nRakdos Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3234951#paper
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This week we take a look at one of the most popular and powerful cards in Modern - Mystic Sanctuary. What makes it good, how is it being played, and what can you do with it? Before that, we break down the Manatraders July Modern 15k tournament.
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern Manatraders
\nThe Dive Down: Making Mystic Mighty
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Timestamps:
\n2:27 - Housekeeping
\n5:00 - The Break Down begins - The Manatraders July Modern 15k
\n9:50 - The MT meta
\n18:48 - The top 32
\n27:38 - Conversion rate discussion
\n32:52 - The Top 8
\n36:30 - The top cards
\n42:59 - The Dive Down begins - a brief history of Mystic Sanctuary
\n51:26 - What makes Sanctuary messed-up?
\n58:15 - The value plan of Sanctuary
\n1:11:15 - The impact on your mana
\n1:18:05 - The loops
\n1:30:10 - The strategies
\n1:34:25 - Facing down Sanctuary
\n1:39:05 - Is this the best card in Modern?
\n1:45:55 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nGruul Prowess: https://goodgriefgames.wordpress.com/2020/04/22/brewed-up-r-g-prowess-modern/
\nMystic Sanctuary is a Messed-Up Magic Card: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/mystic-sanctuary-is-a-messed-up-magic-card/
\nPeople Are Sleeping On Mystic Sanctuary: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/people-are-sleeping-on-mystic-sanctuary/
\nExamining The Future Of Mystic Sanctuary In Modern: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/examining-the-future-of-mystic-sanctuary-in-modern/
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On this week's episode, the team does a long break down on what's happened in Pioneer and Modern in the week since our most recent bans. Takes are given... and returned? Moods are had... and worked out? Then we talk about what we've been playing lately. Ponza! White Tokens! UR Prowess! Mono Green Devotion! We'll let you guess who is who!
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern/Pioneer: Similar/Same
\nThe Dive Down: Our Decks: That's the Same Picture
Timestamps:
\n4:42 - Break Down Begins
\n5:24 - Modern Analysis Begins
\n12:44 - Modern Week 1 Metagame
\n29:50 - The Modern Winner's Metagame
\n42:30 - Pioneer Analysis Begins
\n50:06 - Pioneer’s Tier 2 and Beyond
\n55:00 - What do we want Pioneer to be?
\n1:04:57 - The Pioneer Winner’s Metagame
\n1:12:35 - Dive Down Begins: Our Testing Results
\n1:16:44 - Modern Mono-White Tokens
\n1:25:20 - Pioneer Mono-Green Devotion
\n1:35:06 - Modern Izzet Blitz
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On this week's episode, friend of the show Evart Moughon aka Aspiring Spike drops in for a reaction to the latest Banned & Restricted announcement. Then we talk about some of Evart's latest takes on Modern Control.
\n\nThe Break Down: July 2020 B&R in Modern & Pioneer
\nThe Dive Down: Modern Control Concepts
\nWind Down: Spiking Listener Questions
Timestamps:
\n5:10 - Break Down Begins - July 2020 B&R
\n57:24 - Dive Down Begins - Current State of Modern Control and Evart's Izzet Deck
\n1:35:05 - Wind Down Begins - Listener Questions!
Links from this week's episode:
\nJuly 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/july-13-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2020-07-13?ryujyu
\nAspiring Spike's Izzet Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3169395#paper
\nAspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart
\nAspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
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This week the team tries to just chill (for once) and ends up with a 60min+ Break Down of the last 6 months of Modern and Pioneer, some ban speculation (before the upcoming announcement was announced), and answering listener questions. Shane brings some takes. Stanislav disagrees with Dave. Dave opens packs on air in retaliation. It's another week on The Down Down!
\n\nThe Break Down: 6 months of Modern + Pioneer
\nThe Dive Down: Listener questions
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Timestamps:
\n3:20 - Housekeeping
\n4:59 - The extended Break Down begins - Modern and Pioneer in 2020
\n6:35 - Modern in 2020
\n10:15 - The Modern up-and-comers
\n14:04 - Modern still hanging on
\n21:35 - Modern Falling Stars
\n28:13 - Recent Modern tournaments
\n45:35 - Our takes on Modern in 2020
\n49:15 - Pioneer in 2020
\n50:50 - The Pioneer up-and-comers
\n52:59 - Pioneer still hanging on and the falling stars
\n54:29 - Recent Pioneer tournaments.... sorta
\n57:55 - Our takes on the problems of Pioneer in 2020
\n1:10:58 - What would we change in Pioneer?
\n1:15:25 - What could be added to Pioneer?
\n1:21:40 - What would we ban/unban in Modern?
\n1:24:34 - The Wind Down begins: listener questions
\n1:25:34 - How do we track our performance?
\n1:31:30 - What promo cards do we like?
\n1:35:55 - What makes a deck eternal?
\n1:40:10 - What has been your favorite deck to play?
\n1:43:14 - What other formats would we like to try?
\n1:45:45 - What cards would we like to see printed into Modern?
\n1:48:58 - Closing out
Links/Tournaments Referenced in this week's episode:
\nModern Challenge #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-07-05
\nModern Challenge #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-07-06
\nPioneer League #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-league-2020-07-02
\nPioneer League #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-league-2020-07-06
\nPioneer Prelim #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-preliminary-2020-07-02
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In this bonus episode, Stan sits down with Nick Valdez, AKA Deezy MTG to talk about the art of content creation, MTG comedy, and what it's like being the #1 Magic Tik Tok account in America and maybe the world!
\n\nFind Nick
\nTwitter: https://twitter.com/nickvaldeezy
\nTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/deezy_mtg
\nTik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@deezymtg
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On this week's episode we take three (or more!) decks featuring Core Set 2021 cards through the Sleeve/Believe/Heave gauntlet. Did they have what it takes to get the coveted "Sleeve" rating? Following that, we discuss how new cards are impacting classic decks in Modern and Pioneer!
\n\nThe Dive Down: Stanislav Snoops
\nThe Dive Down, pt 2: Dave Stormwings
\nThe Dive Down, pt 3: Shane Selesnyas
\n... And more!
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Timestamps:
\n5:58 - Sleeve Believe Heave Week Begins
\n7:51 - Modern Rakdos Goblins ft. Conspicuous Snoop
\n33:53 - Modern Izzet Prowess ft. Stormwing Entity
\n57:54 - Pioneer Selesnya Scales ft. Conclave Mentor
\n1:24:40 - Modern & Pioneer Elves ft. Llanowar Visionary & Fierce Empath
\n1:31:44 - Modern Grixis Delver ft. Thieves Guild Enforcer
\n1:33:40 - Modern & Pioneer Dredge ft. Silversmote Ghoul
\n1:39:07 - Modern Izzet Control ft. Teferi, Master of Time
\n1:41:35 - Pioneer Azorius Spirits ft. Shacklegeist & Lofty Denial
\n1:43:30 - Modern Izzet Phoenix ft. See the Truth
\n1:44:15 - Eliminate in Pioneer
\n1:45:35 - Pioneer Boros Cycling ft. No New Cards
\n1:46:47 - Pioneer Simic Wilderness Reclamation ft. Sublime Epiphany
\n1:47:40 - Pioneer Goblins ft. Conspicuous Snoop & Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner
\n1:50:17 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSnoopy Goblins: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/UrwCOTAZK
\nIzzet Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3144685#paper
\nSelesnya Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3150880#paper
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This week we dive into both Modern AND Pioneer to explore Naya Winota! Did she successfully recruit us into joining her forces, or did we remain unaffiliated? We also do a quick break down of the latest Modern Challenge to explore the variety of decks finding success, and wind down with some Patreon questions.
\n\nThe Break Down: Stanislav <3s Modern
\nThe Dive Down: History's Best BoP Deck?
\nThe Wind Down: A Few Questions
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Timestamps:
\n2:58 - Housekeeping
\n6:12 - The Break Down begins: A Modern Challenge
\n8:10 - Top 8 analysis
\n23:42 - Takes on the tournament
\n26:14 - Core 21 projections
\n27:58 - The Dive Down begins: Why Winota?
\n30:50 - What Winota?
\n34:35 - The payoffs
\n40:32 - Payoff math and payoff tactics
\n45:40 - Gut checks and initial takes
\n49:55 - The mana dorks
\n52:55 - The token generators
\n56:21 - Eldritch Evolution and the sac fodder
\n1:06:00 - The early game plan and the power of that game plan
\n1:11:25 - Creating advantage with Winota
\n1:19:40 - Losing advantage with Winota
\n1:22:09 - Comparing this to other decks in the formats
\n1:30:18 - What's the better version? Pioneer or Modern?
\n1:40:02 - The Wind Down: Patreon questions
\n1:48:38 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe 6/21 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-06-21#decklists
\nPioneer Winota: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3130303#paper
\nModern Winota: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3114576#paper
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This week we receive a short but substantial ray of sunshine about Pioneer from Shane and then talk about our our second and final batch of picks to click from Core Set 2021!
\nThe Break Down: Pioneer is Actually Good
\nThe Break Down, cont: But What About Inverter? Stan Speaks
\nThe Dive Down: Spoilers, Spoilers, Spoilers (again)
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Timestamps:
\n3:00 - Housekeeping
\n5:00 -The Break Down begins — Get Up on Pioneer
\n6:15 - Shane’s Ray of Light: Pioneer Challenges
\n6:30 - The first Pioneer Challenge’s Top 8
\n9:45 - The second Pioneer Challenge’s Top 8
\n12:20 - Top 8s takeaways
\n13:00 - Top 32s assessment
\n15:10 - But what about Inverter? Stan speaks.
\n16:00 - The bottom line on Pioneer + what we’re playing
\n19:25 - The Dive Down begins: more Core 21 cards
\n19:35 - Conspicuous Snoop
\n27:30 - Ghostly Pilferer + Shacklegeist
\n36:20 - Terror of the Peaks
\n42:30 - Sublime Epiphany
\n47:20 - Heartfire Immolator
\n54:05 - Stormwing Entity
\n1:00:10 - Conclave Mentor
\n1:04:05 - Llanowar Visionary + Fierce Empath
\n1:09:40 - Lofty Denial
\n1:15:55 - Miscast
\n1:19:55 - Liliana, Waker of the Dead
\n1:27:18 - Colossal Dreadmaw
\n1:27:45 - Frantic Inventory
\n1:32:33 - See the Truth
\n1:34:32 - Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner
\n1:38:36 - Angelic Ascention
\n1:41:55 - The Wind Down begins — Core 21 called shots
Links from this episode:
\nPioneer Challenge, June 14th
\nhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-06-14
\nPioneer Challenge, June 15th
\nhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-06-15
\nJim Davis on Conspicuous Snoop
\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgp12xXMlX0
\nhttps://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/jimdavis-06122020-the-scoop-on-conspicuous-snoop
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This week we look at the post-Companion metas for Pioneer and Modern, then talk about our picks to click from the first batch of Core Set 2021 spoilers!
\nThe Break Down: Our Companions Leave Us Alone
\nThe Break Down, cont: Modern & Pioneer Metas
\nThe Dive Down: Spoilers, Spoilers, Spoilers
Timestamps:
\n2:42 - Housekeeping
\n5:45 -The Break Down begins - the post-Companion meta
\n10:38 - The Pioneer meta
\n16:30 - Some top 8s
\n23:55 - Pio Companion check in and cool decks
\n34:37 - Pioneer meta takes
\n35:20 - The modern meta
\n39:01 - Some top8s
\n44:43 - Some cool decks and cool takes
\n50:35 - Quick take - what would we play?
\n52:15 - The Dive Down begins
\n54:20 - Teferi, Master of Time
\n1:10:00 - Basri Ket
\n1:13:43 - Chandra, Heart of Fire
\n1:18:29 - Elder Garagroth
\n1:23:26 - Village Rites
\n1:28:30 - Plunge
\n1:34:46 - Containment Priest
\n1:39:00 - Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge
\n1:42:02 - Quick hits - Azusa, Vito, Chandra's Incinerator
Links from this week's episode:
\nSCG Tour Online:
\nhttps://scgtouronline.starcitygames.com/
\nCore Set 2021 Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/m21?order=spoiled&as=grid
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\n\nWe share the commitment of many of our listeners in educating ourselves on the unfathomable pain faced by people of color in the United States and beyond. All proceeds from this week’s episode will go to the Black Lives Matter Global Network, and several other organizations that fight for justice on behalf of oppressed people and communities.
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\n\nhttp://www.maximummiddleage.com/right-now/alton-sterling-philando-castile-how-to-be-an-ally-to-black-people
\nThe Bail Project: https://bailproject.org/
\nCampaign Zero: https://www.joincampaignzero.org/
\nUnicorn Riot: https://unicornriot.ninja/
\nGeorge Floyd Memorial Fund: https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd
\nJustice for Breonna Taylor: https://www.gofundme.com/f/9v4q2-justice-for-breonna-taylor
\nMutual Aid: https://www.mutualaidhub.org/
\nBlack and Brown Founders: https://blackandbrownfounders.com/
\nBlack Feminist Project: https://www.gofundme.com/f/theblkprojek
\nColin Kaepernick Know Your Rights Camp: https://www.knowyourrightscamp.com/
\nBlack Girls Code: https://www.blackgirlscode.com/
\nBlack Voters Matter Fund: https://www.blackvotersmatterfund.org/
\nThe National Police Accountability Project: https://www.nlg-npap.org/donate/
\nEqual Justice Initiative: https://eji.org/
\nNAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund: https://www.naacpldf.org/
\nBET and United Way COVID-19 Relief Fund: https://secure.unitedway.org/j/step/bet-covid-19-donate
As for the episode itself: Join us this week as we have special guest Cavedan, of Faithless Brewing fame, on as we break down the latest B&R announcement and the companion rules change, talk about our thoughts and feelings about the game and meta-game of Magic, and quiz him about brewing.
\n\nTimestamps:
\n7:56 - Housekeeping
\n12:13 - The Break Down: dissecting the B&R and Companion rule change
\n16:36 - Examining the text from the announcement
\n27:58 - Will divergent game play patterns take place?
\n33:00 - The implications of this rule change
\n43:40 - The Dive Down begins - The pace and impact of change
\n54:35 - How we can respond to change?
\n1:02:32 - Things to be positive about in Magic - New ways to play
\n1:02:36 - News digital ways to play is a good thing.
\n1:09:49 - Does anyone think paper is dying?
\n1:15:43 - The game is fundamentally great!
\n1:27:42 - How change keeps the community engaged.
\n1:33:34 - The Brew Down
\n1:37:22 - Deck Advantage vs. Deck Experience
\n1:39:29 - Checking in on our goals.
\n1:44:18 - The Wind Down Begins
\n144:41 - Has Rogue Refinery changed the way Dan brews?
\n1:47:40 - How do we approach an open meta game?
\n1:49:49 - What makes a card brew worthy?
\n1:51:11 - Can a brand new deck emerge in Modern?
\n1:53:39 - Please brew with Nahiri, the Harbinger
\n1:55:29 - What’s The Dive Down’s secret ingredient?
\n1:59:55 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nJune 1, 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/june-1-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement
\nFaithless Brewing: https://faithlessbrewing.podbean.com/
\nFaithless Brewing on Twitter: https://twitter.com/faithlessmtg
\nFaithless Brewing's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/faithlessbrewing
\nEpisodes of Rogue Refinery can found at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ZGymAvfP97qJabgqUkz4A
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We dive into one of the most powerful and popular decks in Pioneer - Jeskai Lukka Yorion Sharknado Fires Control! Or whatever it's called!
\nThe Break Down: The latest Pioneer SQ
\nThe Dive Down: TapouT
\nThe Dive Down, continued: Agents of Snap Concessions
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Timestamps:
\n2:35 - Housekeeping
\n6:25 - The Break Down begins - the Pioneer Super Qualifier
\n6:50 - PSQ Top 32 Meta
\n16:44 - PSQ Top 8
\n18:17 - Interesting Decks
\n27:27 - The Dive Down Begins - Yorion Superfriends!
\n30:30 - What is tapout control?
\n35:40 - Fires of Invention and tapout control
\n43:26 - The gameplan of Yorion Superfriends
\n53:01 - Enabling Lukka
\n56:40 - The yorion advantage
\n1:09:50 - Closing out games
\n1:12:30 - The supporting elements
\n1:18:51 - Getting the most out of Fires
\n1:32:55 - Sideboarding and matchups
\n1:47:30 - Some thoughts on the deck
\n1:50:20 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nTapout Control / PV's Playhouse / Paulo Vitor Damo Da Rosa: https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/home/pvs-playhouse-control/
\nThe Pioneer SQ: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-05-23
\nJeskai Superfriends: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/wur-20302994-c1b8-4ede-a1ad-81e213d4b28a#paper
\nMore Superfriends: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3047732#paper
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This week Aspiring Spike is back to help us understand the Companion metagame in Pioneer and Modern. What's good, what's not so good, and how to next-level your opponents!
\n\nThe Break Down: Lotus Box Modern
\nThe Dive Down: Shane Has Facts
\nThe Dive Down, pt. 2: A Love/Hate Relationship
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Timestamps:
\n2:55 - Housekeeping
\n4:37 - The Break Down sorta begins - Another B&R annoucement
\n10:48 - The Break Down really begins - The Team Lotus Box modern 1k
\n13:25 - The 1k metagame
\n31:52 - Companion stats and the top 8
\n33:30 - Tournament takeaways
\n36:36 - The Dive Down begins - the Companion metas
\n41:43 - Why has the metagame coalesced around Companions?
\n47:06 - Who's having fun?
\n51:28 - How is this metagame different than before?
\n58:55 - How are you getting an edge?
\n1:09:01 - Playing against Companions
\n1:29:03 - What do we think will happen to Companions?
\n1:34:25 - What are WOTCs long-term plans for Companions?
\n1:36:45 - Why might WOTC change Companions?
\n1:41:41 - Full-time Aspiring Spike
\n1:45:30 - The Sorta Wind Down - questions for Aspiring Spike
\n1:53:22 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Team Lotus Box Modern 1K: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/lotus-box-league-season-1-modern-1k-team-lotus-box-tournament-62866
\nAri Lax: How to Exploit Every Companion in Constructed: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/how-to-exploit-every-companion-in-constructed/
\nAspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart
\nAspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
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This week we tackle a level-up prompt from a Patron of The Dive Down Nation - what does it mean to have advantage in a game of Magic? We explore what advantage can look like in different aspects of the game, how to use it in your game play, and how to play when you are ahead or behind.
\nThe Break Down: Cool decks from recent challenges
\nThe Dive Down: The Unified Theory of Magic
\nThe Dive Down, pt. 2: Debunking the Unified Theory of Magic
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Timestamps:
\n6:27 - The Break Down begins: Cool decks!
\n6:59 - May 11 Pioneer Challenge
\n20:42 - May 11 Modern Challenge
\n26:44 - UW Miracles ft. Counterbalance
\n31:52 - The Dive Down begins: Advantage in Magic
\n42:50 - What’s the first thing that comes to mind with advantage?
\n49:32 - Is there a way to talk about advantage in a single cohesive way?
\n57:58 - Thinking about actions instead of turns.
\n1:06:22 - Are some decks more sensitive to advantage?
\n1:09:39 - Does it all come down to deck plans?
\n1:12:05 - What about advantage in combo?
\n1:14:50 - How fragile is having an advantage in Magic?
\n1:23:45 - Does a format’s power level make advantage more important?
\n1:27:17 - Taking your plan to the next level with advantage.
\n1:30:14 - What to do with your knowledge of in-game advantage.
\n1:33:05 - How do you regain advantage?
\n1:41:02 - What to down you already have the advantage.
\n1:46:38 - How do we get from advantage to intuition?
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe May 11th Pio Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-05-11#decklists
\nThe May 11th Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-05-11#decklists
\nThe May 10th Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-05-10
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We take three more Companions and three new decks through the S/B/H process, and let you know what we thought about them! Maybe we even used that hippo one! (We didn't.)
\nThe Break Down: The Lotus Box is a League
\nThe Dive Down: Yorion, Lurrus (Again?), and Gyruda
\nThe Wind Down: 3 Minutes About Hobbies
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Timestamps:
\n2:34 - Housekeeping
\n6:03 - The Break Down - The Team Lotus Box Pioneer Tournament top 8
\n11:28 - Closer looks at the new Companion decks of Pioneer
\n22:15- Winrate stats
\n24:20 - Takeaways from the tournament
\n31:00 - The Dive Down begins - Companion S/B/H, pt.2
\n32:29 - Bant Snow Control ft. Yorion
\n59:40 - Pioneer Boros Burn ft. Lurrus
\n1:21:05 - Sultai Gyruda Combo ft.... Gyruda
\n1:46:01 - The Wind Down - what we're doing during Social Distancing
\n1:49:26 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Team Lotus Box tournament series: https://www.lotusboxleague.com/
\nBant Snow Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2982916#paper
\nBoros Burn: https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/boros-burn-lurrus-decklist-by-piper-powell-965744
\nGyruda combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2974794#paper
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This week The Dive Down boys test out some of the latest decks in Modern and Pioneer, all featuring Companions! Love them or hate them, they are certainly here for now. Listen and learn what we think about 3 of the newest popular Companions!
\nThe Break Down: 2 Challenging Modern Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Our New Friends Lurrus, Obosh, and Zirda
\nThe Wind Down: Funeral For a Friend
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Timestamps:
\n2:26 - Housekeeping
\n6:03 - The Break Down: 2 Modern Challenges
\n15:26 - The second Modern Challenge!
\n26:56 - The Dive Down begins: Ever hear of Companions?
\n29:15 - Grixis Death's Shadow ft. Lurrus in Modern
\n49:33 - Some tips with and against Lurrus
\n57:03 - Gruul Aggro ft. Obosh in Pioneer
\n1:20:04 - Beating Obosh
\n1:23:24 - Zirda Elves in Modern
\n1:33:15 - Stoneforge Mystic Zirda!
\n1:41:08 - Our takes on Companions
\n1:51:41 - The Wind Down: RIP DCI
LInks from this week's episode:
\nLurrus Shadow: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2958819#paper
\nObosh Gruul: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2940733#paper
\nZirda Elves: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2948760#paper
\nZirda SFM Elves: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2958129#paper
\nIzzet Lutri: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2961717#paper
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We hang out with our old friend Klothys and her minions as we do a deck dive into the latest tier 1 Modern deck, Ponza!
\nThe Break Down: Challenge of the Companions
\nThe Break Down, cont: The Takes You're Looking For
\nThe Dive Down: 2 Glorybringers on Turn 3
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Timestamps:
\n2:45 - Housekeeping
\n5:42 - The Break Down begins: a Pioneer super qualifier
\n6:28 - The top 8 (with maybe some Companion talk)
\n22:42 - The rest of the meta
\n25:48 - The immediate impact of Companions and our hot takes
\n39:25 - The Dive Down: Gruul Midrange/RG Ponza
\n45:10 - Our initial thoughts
\n48:40 - What this deck is trying to do
\n53:15 - The early game
\n58:22 - The midgame
\n1:00:58 - A special focus on Klothys
\n1:06:43 - Back to the ramp targets and midgame plays
\n1:13:20 - Closing out the game
\n1:21:01 - The Companion Variant
\n1:31:45 - Why is Ponza good now?
\n1:36:30 - Some good and kinda bad matchups
\n1:41:30 - Some helpful thoughts
\n1:45:30 - How to stop Ponza
\n1:48:50 - The future of Ponza in the meta
\n1:50:28 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Pioneer Super Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-04-18
\nThe “Classic” Ponza list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2878672#paper
\nThe Companion list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2941115#paper
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Dave is back and we tackle a second batch of spoilers from Ikoria, and give you our picks to click in Pioneer and Modern! Then we wind things down with The Dive Down Nation's spoiler survey.
\nThe Break Down: The latest Pioneer Super Qualifier
\nThe Dive Down: More Monsters, Fewer Problems
\nThe Wind Down: The Nation's spoiler survey
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Timestamps:
\n1:57 - Housekeeping
\n4:16 - The Break Down begins: the Pioneer Super Qualifier top 8
\n14:25 - The top 32 metagame breakdown
\n21:05 - The Dive Down begins: Ikoria spoilers pt 2
\n21:27 - Of One Mind
\n29:22 - Shark Typhoon
\n34:03 - Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy
\n40:44 - Slitherwisp
\n45:58 - Cunning Nightbonder
\n49:01 - Skycat Sovereign
\n53:20 - Blitz of the Thunder-Raptor
\n1:00:16 - Labyrinth Raptor
\n1:03:54 - Swallow Whole
\n1:10:01 - The Ozolith
\n1:14:14 - Neutralize
\n1:18:27 - Quick Hits!
\n1:27:18 - The Triomes!
\n1:36:27 - The Wind Down: The Nation's spoiler survey
\n1:47:48 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Pioneer Super Qualifier: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-super-qualifier-12130311#paper
\nIkoria spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/iko?order=set&as=grid
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In this bonus episode, Dave and Stan got to chat with Ryan Overturf about Mono Red Prowess! Who doesn’t love an explosive Lightning Bolt deck? We chat about the deck’s evolution in Modern, how to evaluate its threats, side boarding and more!
\n\nFind Ryan Overturf:
\nTwitter: https://twitter.com/RyanOverdrive
\nTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ryanoverdrive
\nLodestone Games: https://twitter.com/LodestoneCG
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We have Evart Moughon, aka Aspiring Spike, on as a guest host to go over the first batch of Ikoria spoilers!
\nThe Break Down: Modern Showcase!
\nThe Dive Down: Behemoth Spoilers!
\nThe Wind Down: Listener Questions!
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Timestamps:
\n2:28 - Housekeeping
\n3:35 - The Break Down: Modern Super Qualifier
\n5:30 - The top 8
\n14:42 - The top 32 meta
\n28:07 - The Dive Down begins: how we evaluate cards
\n32:39 - The mechanics of Ikoria
\n44:31 - Picks to Click: Lurrus of the Dream Den
\n52:09 - Heartless Act
\n57:01 - Vivien, Monsters' Advocate
\n1:04:06 - Sea-Dasher Octopus
\n1:07:24 - Fiend Artisan
\n1:11:29 - Sprite Dragon
\n1:16:24 - General Kudro of Drannith
\n1:22:01 - Rielle, the Everwise
\n1:25:39 - Mythos of Nethroi
\n1:29:27 - Some quick hits
\n1:35:12 - The Wind Down - questions for Aspiring Spike
\n1:45:21 - Where to find Aspiring Spike
\n1:46:29 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nModern Super Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-super-qualifier-2020-04-05#decklists
\nThe Mechanics of Ikoria: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ikoria-lair-behemoths-mechanics-2020-04-02?sd
\nIkoria spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/iko?order=set&as=grid
\nAspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nAspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart/
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This week we each take a budget deck through the S/B/H process, and share our experiences testing out some novel options in Pioneer!
\nThe Break Down: Talking Two Pioneer Super Qualifiers
\nThe Dive Down: Ox Talk (and some other things)
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Timestamps:
\n3:40 - Housekeeping
\n6:54 - The Break Down begins - Pioneer Super Qualifiers
\n8:00 - PSQ#1
\n14:45 - PSQ#2
\n21:45 - The top 32x2 metagame
\n37:45 - The Dive Down begins - Why budget decks in Pioneer?
\n42:29 - Mono-Red Phoenix
\n58:04 - Mono-Red Hollow One
\n1:16:01 - Mono-Blue Fliers and budget UW Spirits
\n1:34:18 - Do budget decks have a home in Pioneer?
\n1:41:00 - Closing Out
Links from this week's episode:
\nPioneer SQ #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-03-29-0
\nPioneer SQ #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-03-29
\nEmma's budget Pioneer article: https://infinite.tcgplayer.com/article/Pioneer-Budget-Brews:-Which-Card%3F-Dis-card/f29f8aad-6742-4df0-abcb-47f2eb592e42/
\nMono-Red Phoenix: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2873533#paper
\nMono-Blue Skies: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2873660#paper
\nBudget Azorius Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2875538#paper
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This week we head back for another Heliod deck dive, this time in Pioneer!
\nThe Break Down: Super MTGO Qualifiers in Modern and Pioneer
\nThe Dive Down: Infinite Clicks 'n' Damage 'n' Stuff
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Timestamps:
\n6:36 - Housekeeping
\n8:25 - Modern Super Qualifier
\n25:30 - Pioneer Super Qualifier
\n39:15 - The Dive Down Begins: Mono-White Heliod in Pioneer
\n45:10 - The Strength of Heliod
\n47:35 - A Brief History
\n48:10 - The Combo
\n53:49 - The Beat Down
\n1:06:32 - The Mana
\n1:08:16 - The Disruption
\n1:19:02 - The Gideons
\n1:26:33 - Playing the Deck
\n1:33:56 - The Matchups
\n1:39:45 - The Sideboard
\n1:41:38 - Wrapping Up
Links from this week's episode:
\nModern Super Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-super-qualifier-2020-03-22
\nPioneer Super Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-03-22
\nHeliod deck list example: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2863625#paper
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This week's a weird one, because things are weird. We first go over the Modern and Pioneer MTGO Challenges, then head into a grab bag of listener questions!
\nThe Break Down: Business as Usual
\nThe Dive Down: Staying Healthy and Staying Positive
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Timestamps:
\n4:03 - Some positive news to start your Friday
\n7:22 - Housekeeping
\n9:49 - The Break Down - The Pioneer MTGO Challenge
\n25:46 - The Modern MTGO Challenge
\n39:50 - The Dive Down begins
\n42:31 - What we're covering with paper tournaments cancelled
\n46:03 - Some board games we like
\n52:13 - Magic Online, Magic Arena, computers, and you
\n1:04:32 - Questions lightning round begins - Bant snow control, the best deck in modern?
\n1:06:46 - The best pioneer deck?
\n1:10:20 - The tribes on the edge of glory?
\n1:14:20 - Where is Wilt-Leaf?
\n1:15:43 - Why do we like Pioneer, and what still draws us to Modern?
\n1:21:54 - Is Uro the new Oko?
\n1:26:48 - Should sets be tested online before print?
\n1:30:00 - Do we play Commander?
\n1:34:12 - Finding your deck
\n1:38:38 - Our favorite places
\n1:44:20 - Our go-to non-Magic Podcasts
\n1:48:28 - Closing out
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This week we're doing a bit of a news show — we're covering and discussing a bunch of current topics in Modern and Pioneer including Monday, March 9th's B&R, Pioneer on Arena, and SCG Regionals in Modern. Join us as we break down and break down and break down the last week of mtg.
\n\nThe Break Down 1: Pioneer Masters
\nThe Break Down 2: B&R
\nThe Dive Down: SCG Regionals (Modern)
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Timestamps:
\n2:43 - Housekeeping
\n4:21 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer Masters on Arena
\n19:32 - BANS!
\n32:53 - NO BANS??
\n48:21 - The Dive Down begins: SCG Regionals Weekend
\n50:48 - The top decks across all the top 8s
\n1:04:42 - The winners!
\n1:12:45 - The spicy decks
\n1:32:29 - Surprises
\n1:37:29 - Stan and Dave’s Regionals Experiences
\n1:47:28 - Closing out
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This week we are looking at some of the newest (and oldest) tech and decks in Modern and Pioneer! Mono G Walkers in Pioneer, Grinding Station Breach in Modern, and... Shadow of Doubt?
\n\nThe Break Down: The Modern and Pioneer Showcase Challenges
\nThe Dive Down: Innovations in Modern and Pioneer
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Timestamps:
\n2:19 - Housekeeping
\n5:27 - The Break Down Begins - upcoming bans and a listener poll
\n13:25 - The Modern Showcase Challenge
\n27:05 - The Pioneer Showcase Challenge
\n33:20 - The Dive Down begins - New tech in Modern and Pioneer
\n34:24 - Mono G Walkers in Pioneer
\n55:08 - Shadow of Doubt in Modern
\n1:24:08 - Grinding Station Breach
\n1:46:44 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nPioneer showcase challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-showcase-challenge-2020-03-02
\nModern showcase challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-showcase-challenge-2020-03-01
\nMono G Walkers: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2819606#paper
\nIzzet Flash w/ Shadow of Doubt: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2511750#paper
\nGrinding Station Breach: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2815217#paper
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The gents explore a Patreon request - Orzhov Sram Auras - in Pioneer! Who's wearing the pants in this format? Listen to find out!
\n\nThe Break Down: SCG Indy Pio Open
\nThe Dive Down: Some Hate, Some Hope, Some Pants
\nThe Wind Down: Hey... Whacha Doin?
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Timestamps:
\n2:34 - Housekeeping
\n3:00 - Important updates to our Patreon!
\n10:44 - The Break Down: SCG Indianapolis Pioneer Open
\n39:53 - The Dive Down Begins: Sram Auras
\n41:23 - Intro to Sram Auras
\n43:25 - The Creatures
\n57:41 - Auras & Blessings
\n1:06:52 - The Lands
\n1:09:03 - The Game Plan
\n1:15:37 - Playing Against Different Strategies in Pioneer
\n1:22:43 - Beating Sram Auras
\n1:26:25 - The Sideboard plans
\n1:36:06 - Our thoughts on the deck
\n1:46:15 - The Wind Down: What we're playing for fun
\n1:54:18 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSCG Indy coverage: https://old.starcitygames.com/events/220220_indianapolis.html
\nAn example Sram Auras decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2794551#paper
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In this bonus episode, Stan interviews a fixture of the MTGO leagues and Modern Blue Moon aficionado, Jacob Cumiskey aka ThePenSword. They talk about the ins and outs of Blue Red control decks, ranging from Thing in the Ice to Through the Breach, and gush over some of their favorite counterspells.
\n\nFind Jacob Cumiskey:
\nTwitter: https://twitter.com/CumiskeyJacob
\nTwitch: twitch.tv/jacobcumiskey
\nDiscord: https://bit.ly/2VvbZu3
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We take a dive into Heliod Company Combo in Modern. How it works, what we learned, and how annoying it is to play on Magic Online!
\n\nThe Break Down: NRG Indianapolis
\nThe Dive Down: Infinite Life and Infinite Misclicks
\nThe Wind Down: Manners, Schmanners
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Timestamps:
\n2:40 - Housekeeping
\n5:54 - The Break Down begins - The NRG Pioneer Trial
\n26:12 - The NRG Modern Trial
\n36:40 - The Dive Down begins - Heliod Company Combo
\n38:40 - What the deck is trying to do
\n40:15 - Infinite life combos
\n48:08 - Infinite mana and damage
\n54:48 - The tutors
\n1:03:46 - The ramp
\n1:09:05 - Strategies playing the deck
\n1:23:08 - Using the sideboard
\n1:26:42 - Playing against Heliod Combo
\n1:30:30 - What we liked about the deck
\n1:33:34 - Troubles we had playing the deck
\n1:41:33 - The Wind Down - Magic Online Combo Etiquette
\n1:49:58 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nNRG Pioneer Trial: http://articles.nerdragegaming.com/decklists-archive/pioneer-nrg-series-trial-february-15-2020/
\nNRG Modern Trial: http://articles.nerdragegaming.com/decklists-archive/modern-nrg-series-trial-february-16-2020/
\nHeliod w/ Anafenza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2784654#paper
\nHeliod w/ Infinite Mana: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2758766#paper
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We're headed back to where it all started - Modern! This week's episode is an exploration of the past month+ of Modern events on Magic Online. What's rising, what's fading, and what do we think about it?
\n\nThe Break Down: RPT Phoenix and Shane's GP Phoenix experience
\nThe Dive Down: More Meta, More Meta, More Meta
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Timestamps:
\n3:22 - Housekeeping
\n5:26 - The Break Down Begins - RPT Phoenix
\n19:30 - Pioneer RPT win percentages
\n26:00 - Adapting to the combo metagame
\n28:25 - Shane's GP Phoenix experience
\n40:34 - The Dive Down Begins - The new Modern Meta
\n44:05 - The Modern Challenge data
\n54:15 - The Modern Prelims data
\n1:03:04 - The current decks of Modern: Titan
\n1:07:13 - Mono-Red Prowess
\n1:11:44 - Urza
\n1:14:02 - Tron decks
\n1:18:19 - Jund and Death's Shadow
\n1:23:00 - Izzet Control
\n1:25:08 - Some quick hits
\n1:35:20 - Our takeaways
\n1:42:08 - Wrapping up
Links from this week's episode:
\nWOTC's RPT Phoenix coverage: https://magic.gg/events/players-tour-phoenix-2020
\nCFB's GP Phoenix coverage: https://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/52
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In this bonus episode, Dave interviews certified Death's Shadow Scientist Michael Rapp about playing... well Death's Shadow. They actually do a bit of a deep dive on decks of all different shadow sizes including the most popular build of the moment — 4 Color Traverse.
\n\nFind Michael Rapp:
\nTwitter: @RappaciousOne
\nArticles: https://blog.cardkingdom.com
\nDiscord: https://discord.gg/H8kRu4R
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We kick off this week’s show with a Break Down of the first two Pioneer Players Tours, from sister cities Brussels and Nagoya. Then we Dive Down with the latest Sleeve/Believe/Heave episode, featuring 3 spicy Pioneer decks inspired by new cards from Theros.
\n\nThe Wind Down: Players Tours Brussels & Nagoya
\nThe Dive Down: Sleeve/Believe/Heave ft. Theros Beyond Death
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Timecodes:
\n5:05 - Break Down Begins
\n7:56 - PT Brussels Analysis
\n18:10 - PT Nagoya Analysis
\n41:55 - Dive Down Begins
\n43:58 - RB Midrange
\n59:30 - UB Inverter
\n1:22:44 - UG Ramp
Links from this week's episode:
\nRakdos Midrange: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2728102#online
\nDimir Inverter: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2723294#paper
\nSimic Ramp: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2723199#paper
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First up this week, we take a spin through what's been popping up in Pioneer and Modern since the release of Theros: Beyond Death. In our Dive Down section, each of us talks about our goals for improving our game or relationship with MtG in 2020 (#2020Goals #squadgoals #whathappensnextmightsurpriseyou). Finally, we wind down with some of Stan's tales of fantastic planeswalkers and where to find them — in London and Amsterdam, at least.
\n\nThe Break Down: A Trip to the Spice Station
\nThe Dive Down: Getting Better in 2020
\nThe Wind Down: Player's Club International
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Timecodes:
\n3:09- Break Down begins
\n4:36- TBD and the state of Modern
\n17:48 -TBD and the state of Pioneer
\n33:12 - Dive Down Begins
\n34:39 - Stan's Goals: Focusing on a specific archetype
\n53:43- Zak's Goals: Sequencing
\n1:06:39 - Shane's Goals: Mulligans
\n1:23:03 - Dave's Goals: Take it Easy
\n1:37:39 - Wind Down begins
Links from this week's episode:
\n–
\nModern
\nTitan Field w/ Dryad by toondoslav https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2705484#paper
\nZur’s Weirding.dek by Nephtyz https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2698557#paper
\nGW/Abzan Heliod by Spoonmanaron https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2698538#paper
\n–
\nPioneer
\nPioneer Showcase Challenge lists https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12076816#paper
\nBreach Lotus Storm by Taruto1212 https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2705456#paper
\nAbzan Rallistocrats by Uniq https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-league-2020-01-23#paper
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This week The Dive Down crew welcomes special guest Todd Anderson to join us on our first Pioneer-focused Deck Dive — Chonky Red! Listen to find out why it's not an aggro deck, how tightly you should hold your Rabblemasters, and how to really bring the glory.
\n\nThe Break Down: Todd and All Things Todd
\nThe Dive Down: Chonk and All Things Chonk
\nThe Wind Down: Listener Questions
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Timestamps:
\n3:30 - Housekeeping
\n4:30 - The Break Down: An interview with Todd!
\n33:12 - The Dive Down begins: Chonky Red!
\n34:52 - What is the Chonk?
\n36:30 - Why all those lands?
\n42:00 - What makes this deck popular?
\n45:00 - The development of the Chonk
\n53:30 - The construction of the Chonk - the aggro creatures
\n1:09:00 - The burn spells
\n1:12:24 - The creatures that are also burn spells!
\n1:22:09 - The goldfish cards
\n1:31:26 - The… Chandra
\n1:35:33 - Sideboard considerations
\n1:42:23 - The future of the Chonk
\n1:46:02 - The Wind Down: listener questions!
\n1:52:23 - Where to find Todd
Links from this week's episode:
\nTodd's recent Chonky Red article on SCG, including his most recent decklist: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/its-not-big-its-chonky-all-things-chonky-red-in-pioneer/
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We take another look at Theros Beyond Death, and share some of our picks to click in Pioneer and Modern!
\nThe Break Down: Irrelevant top 8s and, oh yeah, HUGE MODERN BANS
\nThe Dive Down: Theros Beyond Death Picks to Click - Again!
\nThe Wind Down: The Dive Down Nation's favorite cards from Theros Beyond Death
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Timestamps:
\n4:10 - Housekeeping
\n5:18 - The Break Down begins - Some outdated Top 8s
\n8:34 - A closer look at Golgari Yawgmoth
\n14:30 - 3 Modern bans!
\n33:20 - The Dive Down begins - Shadowspear
\n39:53 - Nylea, Keen Eyed
\n46:45 - Underworld Breach
\n55:06 - Gallia of the Endless Dance
\n1:00:26 - Shatter the Sky
\n1:08:45 - Klothys, God of Destiny
\n1:16:42 - Quick Picks begin - Thassa, Deep Dwelling
\n1:18:05 - Dryad of the Ilysian Grove
\n1:19:52 - Eidolon of Obstruction
\n1:22:00 - Escape Velocity
\n1:23:52 - Thassa’s Oracle
\n1:25:40 - Gravebreaker Lamia
\n1:27:52 - Fruit of Tizerus
\n1:30:34 - The Wind Down - The Picks to Click Listener Survey
\n1:40:22 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nJan 13 B&R announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/january-13-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement?n
\nMagicFest Austin coverage: https://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/47
\nSCG Knoxville Open coverage: https://old.starcitygames.com/events/110120_knoxville.html
\nGolgari Yawgmoth deck tech: https://old.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/golgari_yawgmoth_with_aaron_ba.html
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The crew takes a first look at Theros Beyond Death, and share some of their favorite, standout cards.
\nThe Break Down: MTGO Modern Championship
\nThe Dive Down: Theros Beyond Death Picks
Timestamps:
\n1:52 - Housekeeping
\n3:26 - The Break Down begins
\n6:00 - MTGO Modern Championship
\n15:00 - SCG Open Columbus
\n16:33 - Bryan Gottlieb’s Hot New Deck
\n28:55 - The Dive Down Begins
\n29:39 - Our New Card Wishlists
\n38:17 - How We Evaluate Cards
\n42:45 - Tectonic Giant
\n49:12 - Escape Discussion
\n51:12 - Ox of Agonas
\n59:52 - Heliod, Sun-Crowned
\n1:11:12 - Polukranos, Unchained
\n1:20:05 - Whirlwind Denial
\n1:26:54 - The RB and UG Titans
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/ekmpp3/mtgo_modern_champs_top_32_decklists/
\nhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-champs-2020-01-05
\nhttps://twitter.com/BryanGo/status/1213962888194318336/photo/2
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In this installment of our monthly bonus episodes, Shane talks to the popular streamer Evart Moughon, better known as Aspiring Spike, about Pioneer, Modern, streaming, and playing with and against control decks.
\n\nFind the Aspiring Spike:
\nTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike
\nTwitter: https://twitter.com/moughonevart
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The lads see if Monastery Mentor has what it takes to succeed in Pioneer by testing 3 different decks!
\nThe Break Down: Looking over the post-Oko Pioneer Preliminaries (plus some Modern Prelims)
\nThe Dive Down: Making mistakes with Monastery Mentor
\nThe Wind Down: Holiday listener questions
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Timestamps:
\n1:53 - Housekeeping
\n3:20 - The Break Down begins - Pouring over the post-Oko Pioneer Prelims
\n13:22 - Looking more closely at Green Ramp in Pioneer
\n21:56 - A brief look at the Modern Prelims
\n29:40 - The Dive Down begins - There's a Mentor in my Monastery!
\n36:40 - Exploring Mentor in Pioneer
\n38:46 - Shane with GW Mentor Tokens
\n48:30 - The verdict on GW Mentor
\n55:22 - Dave with Mardu PyroMentor
\n1:09:35 - The verdict on Mardu PyroMentor
\n1:11:29 - Stan with Esper Mentor
\n1:20:16 - The verdict on Esper Mentor
\n1:29:52 - Lessons learned on Monastery Mentor
\n1:34:13 - The Wind Down - Listener questions
Links from this week's episode:
\nShane's GW Mentor Tokens: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2587692#paper
\nDave's Mardu PyroMentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2590187#paper
\nStan's Esper Mentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2587940#paper
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This week we Dive Deeper into the Pioneer format, and bring you 5 ways to level up your play!
\nThe Break Down: The latest Pioneer bans, and WOTC's new B&R schedule
\nThe Dive Down: Level up your Pioneer thinking with 5 takeaways
\nThe Wind Down: We answer some listener questions
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Timestamps:
\n3:02 - Housekeeping
\n4:19 - The Break Down begins - The latest Pioneer bans
\n19:07 - WOTC's new B&R schedule, or lack thereof
\n29:18 - The Dive Down begins - Observations on Pioneer
\n30:18 - Non-basic lands.... can be good!
\n43:17 - Taking the advantage back on the draw
\n57:25 - The 3 toughness challenge
\n1:11:00 - The casting cost mindshift, 1 mana cards in Pioneer
\n1:19:30 - Counterspells in Pioneer
\n1:26:30 - The Wind Down: Listener questions on Pioneer
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe 12/16/19 Pioneer bannings: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-16-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement
\nThe 12/16/19 B&R annoucement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-16-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement
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The guys get together in a studio to indulge themselves with discussion of our favorite Dive Down (and Magic) moments of 2019.
\nThe Break Down: We talk about what we have been playing and enjoying in Modern and Pioneer
\nThe Dive Down: The best (and worst) of 2019
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Timestamps:
\n1:52 - Housekeeping
\n3:33 - The Break Down: what we've been playing
\n34:15 - The Dive Down begins: our 2019
\n35:14 - Favorite episodes of the year
\n43:45 - Favorite Deck Dives of the year
\n47:01 - Worst and best card picks to click of the year
\n1:03:10 - Sleeve/Believe/Heave decks of the year
\n1:14:43 - Our cards of the year
\n1:21:16 - Our Magic experiences of the year
\n1:26:28 - The best new format of the year
\n1:30:03 - Our guests of the year
\n1:33:07 - Our worst takes of the year
\n1:39:22 - Was 2019 a good year for Magic?
\n1:44:34 - Signing off
Links from this week's episode:
\nFind Gal Schlesinger on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/yamakiller
\nListen to the Pioneer Cast, featuring Ross Merriam: https://twitter.com/CastPioneer
\nRead Emma Partlow's content on TCG Player: https://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article_search_result.asp?author=Emma%20Partlow
\nFind Riley Knight's content on Channel Fireball: https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/author/riley-knight/
\nListen to Faithless Brewing: https://faithlessbrewing.podbean.com
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The Dive Down teams up with Faithless Brewing to bring you a deck dive into Five Color Niv-Mizzet!
\nThe Break Down: The week of Pioneer PTQs and the subsequent bans
\nThe Dive Down: The Five Color Niv-Mizzet deck dive!
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Timestamps:
\n3:28 - Introducing Faithless Brewing
\n7:52 - Housekeeping
\n10:28 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer PTQs = Pioneer bans
\n19:28 - The Dive Down begins: Introducing 5C Niv
\n25:10 - What IS 5C Niv?
\n31:28 - The gameplan
\n43:24 - The cards begin: The BTL toolbox
\n50:00 - The mana
\n57:34 - The guild cards
\n1:16:15 - Executing the game plan
\n1:21:03 - The place in the meta
\n1:29:10 - Sideboarding with Niv
\n1:32:07 - Sideboarding against Niv
\n1:36:43 - The future of Niv
\n1:41:26 - Closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nFaithless Brewing's homepage: https://faithlessbrewing.podbean.com
\nFaithless Brewing on Twitter: https://twitter.com/faithlessmtg
\nFaithless Brewing's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/faithlessbrewing
\nDecember 2nd Pioneer Bannings: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-2-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement
\nAn example 5CNM decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2518206#paper
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In our third bonus episode, we take questions from our awesome fans and listeners about Magic the Gathering and our personal lives.
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Timestamps:
\n2:05 - How bad does your favorite deck have to be in the metagame for you to play something else?
\n5:55 - How have your paper groups changed with Pioneer? Have people started leaving Modern to play Pioneer?
\n9:28 - Is The Dive Down going to transition its focus to Pioneer?
\n13:11 - What are your favorite deck archetypes?
\n17:35 - What were your favorite cards when you started playing, and what are your current favorite cards?
\n26:29 - How did we start playing Magic?
\n37:34 - What do you do outside of Magic for fun or when you need a break from Magic?
\n47:24 - What's one pre-Modern card we would add to the card pool?
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\nThe Break Down: GP Columbus
\nThe Dive Down: That Fresh Deck Smell
\nThe Dive Down, cont.: Those Fresh Deck Plans
Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
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Timestamps:
\n2:16 - Housekeeping
\n4:45 - The Break Down begins - GP Columbus
\n7:07 - The day 1 meta
\n17:20 - The day 2 meta
\n21:38 - The top 8 and our thoughts on Modern at the end of 2019
\n31:30 - The Dive Down begins - how to learn a new deck
\n33:10 - What we like about picking up a new deck
\n40:10 - What we don’t like about picking up new decks
\n45:59 - How do we learn about new decks
\n54:58 - Thinking about a deck’s plan - the early game
\n1:05:38 - The mid-game
\n1:11:03 - The late-game
\n1:13:25 - What is your deck trying to do better than other decks
\n1:19:00 - Looking for card synergies in your deck
\n1:21:24 - What is your deck’s position in the meta?
\n1:23:44 - What’s the role of your deck?
\n1:31:52 - what can you lose to?
\n1:37:50 - closing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nCFB's MF Columbus Coverage: https://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/42
\nWho's The Beatdown?: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/whos-the-beatdown/
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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This week, the Dive Down looks at some of Modern's bans throughout history, and examine how they shaped the format as it today.
\n\nThe Beak Down: SCG Invitational, Modern and Pioneer results
\nThe Dive Down: A history of bans and their impact on Modern
\nThe Wind Down: The cards we liked in 2019
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Timestamps:
\n1:59 - Housekeeping
\n3:44 - The Break Down Begins
\n8:00 - Modern Discussion
\n24:43 - Pioneer Discussion
\n40:55 - The Dive Down Begins
\n44:39- The First B&R
\n50:45 - Eggs Ban
\n57:36 - Eye of Ugin Ban
\n68:37 - KCI Ban
\n77:08 - Putting it All Together
\n91:54 - The Wind Down
Links from this week's episode:
\nSCG Pioneer Day 2 Metagame: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/4680_day_2_metagame_breakdown.html
\nSCG Modern Day 2 Metagame: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/4680_day_2_metagame_breakdown.html
\nSCG Modern Decks 7-1 or Better: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/4687_71_or_better_modern_decklists.html
\nThe First B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/explanation-september-2011-br-changes-2011-09-20-0
\nEggs Ban: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/banned-and-restricted-2013-04-22-0
\nEye of Ugin Ban: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/banned-and-restricted-announcement-2016-04-04
\nKCI Ban: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/january-21-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement
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This week, the Dive Down gents explore three winning decks from the breakout new format - Pioneer!
\n\nThe Break Down: Veil of Summer banned, and the MTGO Modern Challenge
\nThe Dive Down: S/B/H Pioneer Edition!
\nThe Wind Down: Archival Masters
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Timestamps:
\n2:16 - Housekeeping
\n3:06 - The Break Down Begins - MORE Pioneer Bans
\n9:33 - The Nov 10th Modern Challenge
\n32:38 - The Dive Down Begins - Our first Pioneer Sleeve/Believe/Heave
\n34:20 - Shane with Hardened Scales
\n54:01 - Dave with Boros Feather
\n1:15:51 - Stan with Izzet Ensoul Artifact
\n1:29:22 - The speed of Pioneer
\n1:32:28 - Is Pioneer Standard+ or Modern-?
\n1:39:32 - The Wind Down: Our card storage methods
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Nov 11 Pioneer Banning: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/november-11-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement
\nThe Nov 9 Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12014490#paper
\nHardened Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-hardened-scales-111268#paper
\nBoros Feather: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2463134#paper
\nIzzet Ensoul: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2473872#paper
\nThe Ultimate Guard Arkhive: https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Guard-Arkhive-XenoSkin-Card/dp/B01M9C7OUU
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This week, The Dive Down gents do a patent-pending Dive into a fan favorite tribe - Spirits! We also discuss the first wave of Pioneer bans and the decks of the first Pioneer PTQ.
\n\nBreaking News - The first Pioneer bans!
\nThe Break Down - The first Pioneer PTQ!
\nThe Dive Down - A Spooky Modern Tribe
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Timestamps:
\n04:47 - Housekeeping
\n05:42 - Breaking News - Pioneer Bans!
\n18:40 - The Break Down - The Pioneer PTQ
\n33:36 - The Dive Down Begins - An introduction to Modern Spirits
\n37:09 - A brief history of Spirits
\n42:00 - Cards and strategy - The disruption
\n59:56 - The lords
\n1:04:41 - The broken cards
\n1:15:38 - Bant vs Azorius Spirits
\n1:22:02 - The Spirits sideboard
\n1:25:29 - Playing against Spirits
\n1:31:40 - The future of Spirits
\n1:37:34 - Wrapping things up
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Nov 4 Pioneer Bannings: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/november-4-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement
\nThe first Pioneer PTQ: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-ptq-12006968#paper
\nAzorius Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2422839#online
\nBant Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-bant-spirits-52507#online
\nPioneer Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2474730#paper
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This week we dive deep on Magic's latest boogeyman — Oko, Thief of Crowns. Is it one of the best cards ever or just one of the goodest? We work it out in between tournament reports on SCG Atlanta and the first MTGO Pioneer Challenge.
\n\nThe Break Down: SCG Open Atlanta
\nThe Dive Down: Oko, Thief of Hearts
\nThe Wind Down: The First Challenge of Pioneering
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2:05 — Housekeeping
\n3:30 — The Break Down begins: SCG Open Atlanta
\n7:50 — Meet Simic Whirza
\n14:00 — Day 2 Meta
\n25:36 — Top 8
\n30:00 — Shocking math about Urza
\n33:17 — Oko rising
\n35:15 — Takeaways
\n39:40 — The Dive Down Begins: #OkoWatch2k19
\n40:53 — Why are we talking about Oko?
\n46:52 — How Oko impacted our games
\n59:58 — Common play patterns with Oko
\n1:06:20 — Is Oko the best planeswalker ever?
\n1:12:40 — So… how ya killing Oko?
\n1:17:10 — What happens to the best planeswalker ever?
\n1:24:35 — The Wind Down begins: What we’ve been playing in Pioneer
\n1:31:30 — The first Pioneer Challenge meta
Links from this week's episode:
\nSCG Atlanta day 2 decks: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Open/2019-10-26_modern_Atlanta_GA_US/1/
\nTeam Lotus Box Simic Whirza deck tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIkQ_n5vCrA
\nFirst MTGO Pioneer Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2019-10-28
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In our second monthly bonus episode, we revisit our Modern Horizons grades to see what we missed on - and why.
\nThe Dive Down: Modern Horizons Revisited
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Timestamps:
\n2:26 - Introducing this month's bonus episode
\n3:39 - Arcum's Astrolabe
\n8:45 - Aria of Flame
\n12:12 - Wrenn and Six
\n16:42- Marit Lage's Slumber
\n20:24 - Sling-Gang Lieutenant
\n23:59 - Giver of Runes
\n27:41 - Soulherder
\n30:58 - Flusterstorm
\n35:02 - Crashing Footfalls
\n39:01 - Tribute Mage
\n41:24 - Archmage's Charm
\n44:59 - Planebound Accomplice
\n47:05 - Cabal Therapist
\n50:59 - Unsettled Mariner
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We talk the SCG Regionals, the decks that got away, and, oh yeah, an ENTIRELY NEW ETERNAL FORMAT - Pioneer!
\nThe Break Down: SCG Regionals
\nThe Dive Down: Welcome to Pioneer Town
\nThe Wind Down: White Whales
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Timestamps:
\n2:22 - Housekeeping
\n3:58 - The Break Down begins - SCG Regionals top 8 data
\n9:53 - 9 takeaways from the SCG Regional results
\n33:37 - The Dive Down begins - Introducing Pioneer!
\n41:55 - The Pioneer ban list philosophy
\n48:57 - What Pioneer means for The Dive Down
\n56:22 - What are we excited to play?
\n1:06:47 - What are we nervous about?
\n1:12:00 - The potential impact of Pioneer on Modern
\n1:17:00 - What does this mean for Modern players?
\n1:29:29 - Our final takes on Pioneer
\n1:32:16 - The Wind Down - The decks that got away
Links from this week's episode:
\nA bunch of SCG Regionals lists: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/results/start_date/2019-10-19/end_date/2019-10-19
\nWOTC's Pioneer announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-pioneer-format-2019-10-21
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We go over the SCG Indy (AKA the Motor City) Open, then perform our patented deep dive process on the various Urza-based decks showing up in Modern!
\n\nThe Break Down: The Motor City SCG Open
\nThe Dive Down: Playing Vintage in Modern
\nThe Wind Down: How the podcast has impacted our play
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Timestamps:
\n1:54 - Housekeeping
\n2:48 - The Break Down begins - SCG Indy's day 2 metagame
\n8:13 - SCG Indy top 8
\n20:01 - SCG Indy take-aways
\n23:20 - The Dive Down begins - how we're covering Urza
\n28:45 - The common thread - Urza!
\n35:24 - The artifact friends
\n45:09 - Paradoxical Urza
\n50:40 - Paradoxical Urza's payoffs
\n54:24 - Emry, Lurker of the Loch
\n58:18 - Planeswalkers
\n1:05:08 - Paradoxial Ascendancy
\n1:14:35 - Selecting between the Paradoxical versions
\n1:17:18 - Whirza
\n1:24:01 - How to beat Urza decks
\n1:28:30 - Our thoughts on Urza decks
\n1:34:45 - The Wind Down - are we better or worse?
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe day 2 meta of SCG Indy: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/4664_day_2_metagame_breakdown.html
\nThe day 2 decks of SCG Indy: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Open/2019-10-12_modern_Indianapolis_IN_US/1/
\nParadoxical Urza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2327485#online
\nParadoxical Ascendancy: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2368650#paper
\n4C Whirza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-four-color-whirza#online
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The crew talk about combo decks they have tested with new Throne of Eldraine cards.
\n\nThe Break Down: Modern Challenge
\nThe Dive Down: "Wait, do you just win here?"
\nThe Wind Down: I Don't want No Slump
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Timestamps:
\n1:31 - Housekeeping
\n3:25 - The Break Down - The Modern Challenge
\n23:10 - The Dive Down Begins
\n32:16 - Goblin Combos
\n45:06 - Kiki Jiki Combos
\n1:06:26 - UR Through the Breach
\n1:23:31 - Grixis Control
\n1:30:06 - The Wind Down Begins
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-10-06
\nGoblin Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2320042#online
\nGrummy’s Toolbox: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2356719#online
\nVannifar Kiki: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2311103#paper
\nNaya Kiki Value/Stoneblade): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2311113#paper
\nTemur Kiki: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2311099#paper
\nUR Through the Breach: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2311111#paper
\nBlue Moon: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2327488#paper
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The crew do a deck dive into a personal favorite - Mono-Red Prison!
\nThe Break Down: #OkoWatch2019
\nThe Dive Down: SSG Ritual Ritual Karn
\nThe Wind Down: Pocket Monsters
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Timestamps:
\n2:32 - Housekeeping
\n5:00 - The Break Down - The Modern Challenge
\n16:02 - The Dive Down begins - Mono-Red Prison
\n17:42 - What are prison decks?
\n21:34 - The fast mana spells
\n26:43 - The lock pieces
\n35:00 - The wishboard lock pieces
\n41:16 - The threats
\n55:13 - The planeswalkers
\n1:10:05 - The removal
\n1:13:25 - The lands
\n1:18:35 - The sideboard
\n1:21:30 - Playing against Mono-Red Prison
\n1:28:16 - Our thoughts on Mono-Red Prison
\n1:30:18 - The Wind Down - Gotta catch 'em all!
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-09-29
\nMono-Red Prison decklist; https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-mono-red-prison-84623#online
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
The Dive Down: Reducing Libraries to Zero With UB Mill
\n\nBecome a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
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Timestamps:
\n4:47 - What is Mill?
\n8:50 - Cards That Mill
\n14:20 - The Creatures
\n23:20 - Non-Creature Permanents
\n31:59 - The Planeswalkers
\n34:52 - Cards That Keep You Alive
\n51:09 - How to Mill
\n53:50 - The Sideboard
\n56:56 - How to Beat Mill
\n1:03:45 - Would We Mill Again?
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The Dive Down: Our picks to click from Throne of Eldraine
\nThe Wind Down: What we plan to do with some downtime
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Timestamps:
\n2:10 - Housekeeping
\n4:38 - The Dive Down begins - What makes a card appealing for Modern?
\n11:44 - The mechanics of Eldraine
\n24:43 - The Dive Down Nation's set review survey
\n25:48 - Once Upon a Time
\n33:36 - Emry, Lurker of the Loch
\n45:22 - Hushbringer
\n53:46 - Brazen Borrower
\n60:18 - Grumgully the Generous
\n66:00 - Charming Prince
\n71:45 - The Royal Scions
\n78:48 - Claim the Firstborn
\n82:19 - The Wind Down - Our plans for the break in Modern tournaments
\n89:18 - How to find Emma Partlow
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Dive Down Nation's set analysis: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_jHEbC0kKlcXxC3qrtMjMnT4x1VrVCX-Tn4CAqP0rs0/viewanalytics
\nhttps://scryfall.com/card/celd/371/once-upon-a-time
\nhttps://scryfall.com/card/celd/342/emry-lurker-of-the-loch
\nhttps://scryfall.com/card/celd/339/hushbringer
\nhttps://scryfall.com/card/celd/281/brazen-borrower-petty-theft
\nhttps://scryfall.com/card/eld/192/grumgully-the-generous
\nhttps://scryfall.com/card/celd/335/charming-prince
\nhttps://scryfall.com/card/celd/272/the-royal-scions
\nhttps://scryfall.com/card/eld/118/claim-the-firstborn
\nEmma's twitter: https://twitter.com/emmmzyne
\nEmma's twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/emmmzyne
\nEmma's TCGPlayer articles: http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article_search_result.asp?author=Emma%20Partlow
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
The Break Down: GP Ghent discussion and analysis
\nThe Dive Down: Talking sideboarding in modern
\nThe Wind Down: Our favorite sideboard cards
Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\n\nTimestamps:
\n1:25 - Housekeeping
\n3:29 - The Break Down begins - GP Ghent
\n8:40 - GP Ghent top 4 team decks
\n16:17 - Thoughts on the meta
\n19:25 - The Dive Down begins - talkin' sideboards
\n20:55 - Silver bullet cards
\n29:51 - Color hosers
\n35:55 - Building a sideboard
\n38:27 - Knowing your plan, pivoting your plan
\n42:59 - Why to not netdeck sideboards
\n46:48 - Should you plan for your perceived local meta?
\n50:40 - Preparing for an expected meta
\n53:53 - Preparing for an unknown meta
\n56:48 - Sideboarding - for your good or bad matchups?
\n70:25 - When to tweak your sideboard
\n74:53 - Common sideboarding habits of Modern decks
\n87:04 - The Wind Down begins - our favorite sideboard cards
Links from this week's episode:
\nCFB's MagicFest Ghent coverage: https://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/32
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The Break Down: GP Hoosier State
\nThe Dive Down: Wielding Swords
\nThe Wind Down: Heel Turn
Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:36 – The Break Down begins: GP Indianapolis
\n9:49 – Our thoughts on the top 4 team decks
\n13:13 – The GP Indy metagame
\n22:28 – The Dive Down begins: The history of Stoneforge Mystic
\n28:44 – The Stoneforge unban in New Modern
\n32:59 – The Stoneforge Package
\n42:36 – New swords on the block
\n47:14 – Sword strats
\n50:55 – Sleeve/Believe/Heave – UW Control
\n1:02:26 – S/B/H – GW Eldrazi
\n1:10:55 – S/B/H – Jeskai Tempoforge
\n1:24:47 – S/B/H – Bant Snowflash
\n1:31:50 – The Wind Down begins – is modern better with a big baddie?
\n1:39:35 – What do you love playing against?
Links from this week’s episode:
\nEvery deck from GP Indy: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTCwN2g7cBwLzmED2vedpMsqsSObsvi3jHJCJSDm7YQ36gSHRUICWOi0fzbKCvGle5lIFekPt02wOIs/pubhtml
\nDay 1 and day 2 GP Indy data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSsh9wpyhBTSTOjTmUrsiOOrSCyO1K0zsPK0E2gh2I1m9bRFCZ2BoIyNeL2gR7AQuWxYD2LQM_mX30A/pubhtml
\nUW Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2232374#paper
\nGW Eldrazi: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2239583#online
\nJeskai Tempoforge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2239424#paper
\nBant Snowflash: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2239373#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The Break Down: 24 to 32 Modern Decks
\nThe Dive Down: Reactions // Responses
Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\n\nTimestamps:
\n2:35 - Housekeeping
\n4:17 - The Break Down begins - SCG Dallas Modern Open
\n23:35 - SCG Dallas Modern Classic
\n34:15 - MTGO Modern MCQ
\n46:09 - MTGO Modern Challenge
\n56:20 - The Dive Down begins - our initial thoughts
\n1:01:22 - Are you still playing graveyard hate?
\n1:04:03 - How does the speed of the format feel?
\n1:09:00 - Is this the new normal?
\n1:13:25 - The community reaction
\n1:19:49 - The first 5-0 deck dump
\n1:22:05 - What we've been playing and seeing
\n1:25:37 - Thoughts on "old" decks
\n1:31:44 - Where do we want to go from here?
\n1:35:10 - Where's the wind down?
Links from this week's episode:
\nSCG Modern Open: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Open/2019-08-31_modern_Dallas_TX_US/1/
\nSCG Modern Classic: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Classic/2019-09-01_modern_Dallas_TX_US/1/
\nMTGO Modern MCQ: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-mcq-2019-09-02
\nMTGO Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-09-01
\n29 Stoneforge Deck 5-0 dump: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-league-2019-08-30
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The Break Down: B&R Bonanza
\nThe Dive Down: All Hail Eldrazi Temple
Timestamps:
\n1:44 - Housekeeping
\n3:54 - The Break Down begins - the B&R announcement
\n24:01 - GP Las Vegas
\n27:30 - The Dive Down begins - Eldrazi Tron
\n28:45 - What E-Tron Isn't
\n38:48 - What E-Tron Is
\n43:30 - The History of E-Tron
\n46:56 - Diving into E-Tron - The Manabase
\n57:06 - The Planeswalkers
\n1:05:42 - The creatures
\n1:17:19 - The non-creature spells
\n1:24:33 - The sideboard
\n1:30:35 - Playing with E-Tron
\n1:39:06 - Playing against E-Tron
\n1:42:09 - Our thoughts on E-Tron
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe 8/26/19 B&R Announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-26-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2019-08-26
\nGP Las Vegas top 8: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/grand-prix-las-vegas-2019#paper
\nThe Modern Streamers League: https://www.modernstreamersleague.com
\nEldrazi Tron decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2202225#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The Break Down: GP Birmingaak with a special focus on Mardu Death's Shadow
\nThe Dive Down: Probably Correct Math
\nThe Wind Down: Comboing Out
Timestamps:
\n2:15 - Housekeeping
\n3:58 - The Break Down Begins - GP Birmingaak
\n8:24 - Day 1 stand-outs
\n11:33 - Day 2 metagame breakdown and conversion rates
\n14:01 - Top 8 begins
\n14:57 - Discussing Mardu Death's Shadow
\n22:00 - 2nd place and beyond
\n24:14 - Post-GP discussion
\n26:11 - The Dive Down Begins - Probably correct math
\n31:52 - Why care about Magic Math?
\n39:28 - How to use a hypergeometric calculator
\n46:27 - Thanks to Frank Karsten
\n46:51 - 1) The Rule of 2 and 4
\n54:59 - 2) Your opening 7
\n57:26 - 3) 2-card combos
\n1:01:57 - 4) Mana screwing yourself
\n1:05:56 - 5) Cheating that Chalice
\n1:09:04 - 5a) The Deckulator
\n1:10:10 - 6) T1 Blood Moon
\n1:13:12 - 7) Natty Tron and other Tron math
\n1:16:42 - 8) Getting burned
\n1:20:21 - 9) Hollow numbers vs. Hogaak numbers
\n1:25:24 - 10) Jund'ing them out
\n1:26:28 - 11) Mono-red damage
\n1:30:30 - The Wind Down - Comboing out
Links from this week's episode:
\nSee Zak commentate the MSL on 8/28: https://www.modernstreamersleague.com
\nOur custom token art: https://www.patreon.com/posts/our-awesome-are-29292615
\nMore of Ben Dewey: https://benjamindewey.tumblr.com
\nGP Birmingham Top8:
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/grand-prix-birmingham-2019#paper
\nMath References:
\nhttp://channelfireball.com/articles/how-many-copies-of-any-given-card-should-you-put-in-your-deck/
\nhttps://www.channelfireball.com/articles/the-london-mulligan-rule-mathematically-benefits-strategies-that-rely-on-specific-cards/
\nhttps://www.channelfireball.com/articles/how-reliable-is-hollow-one/
\nhttps://www.channelfireball.com/articles/magic-math-hogaak-can-be-played-on-turn-2-in-60-of-its-games/
\nCalculators:
\nhttps://stattrek.com/online-calculator/hypergeometric.aspx
\nhttps://deckulator.appspot.com/
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\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The Break Down: GP Gaakiapolis
\nThe Dive Down: Leying Lines
\nThe Wind Down: What We Deck in the Shadows
Timestamps:
\n1:40 - Housekeeping
\n2:38 - The Break Down begins - GP Minneapolis
\n10:56 - Discussing the lack of GP coverage
\n19:20 - The Dive Down begins - Introduction to Leylines
\n24:33 - The Guildpact Leylines
\n26:39 - The M11 Leylines
\n30:24 - The design of Leylines
\n35:20 - Leyline math!
\n42:16 - The Modern playable Leylines - Leyline of the Void
\n56:36 - Leyline of Sanctity
\n1:05:13 - Leyline of Abundance
\n1:10:44 - Leyline of Combustion
\n1:22:43 - The Wind Down Begins - What Shane's playing
\n1:25:31 - What Stan's playing
\n1:28:14 - What Dave's playing
\n1:31:42 - What Zak's playing
Links from this week's episode:
\nhttps://www.channelfireball.com/home/grand-prix-minneapolis-top-16-decklists/
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The Break Down: The 8/4/19 Modern Challenge - only 38% Hogaak
\nThe Dive Down: I've Abandoned My Bird
\nThe Wind Down: It's Not Easy Being Fair
Timestamps:
\n03:15 - Housekeeping
\n03:39 - The Break Down begins - 8/4/19 Modern Challenge
\n24:13 - The Wind Down begins - Is it time to put Izzet Phoenix down in Modern?
\n37:47 - The current and past Modern metagame
\n43:55 - Has Modern "rotated"?
\n49:16 - The impact of Modern Horizons
\n56:19 - Is Hogaak bannable?
\n60:55 - Making the most of Modern now
\n74:37 - Modern after Hogaak
\n79:17 - Can Phoenix actually survive in a Hogaak world?
\n87:23 - The Wind Down Begins - Why play fair?
\n98:14 - The role of Magic in Ross's life
Links from this week's episode:
\n8/4/19 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-08-04
\nThe MTG ELO Project: http://www.mtgeloproject.net/50decks/modern.html
\nRoss's article: http://www.starcitygames.com/articles/38921_Its-Time-To-Put-Izzet-Phoenix-Down-In-Modern.html
\nGerry's article: http://www.starcitygames.com/articles/38937_Dont-Give-Up-Yet-Ross-Izzet-Phoenix-Is-Actually-Great-Right-Now.html
\nFind Ross on twitter: https://twitter.com/RossHunneds
\nWatch Ross on Vs. Live! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5d1KNNFArSPiU3vDwsH3dNtMGVm7Ldmd
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
The Break Down: MC IV: Karn's Comeback
\nThe Dive Down: For Those About To Jund: We Can Help You
\nThe Wind Down: Practice Makes Perfect
Timestamps:
\n1:51 - Housekeeping
\n5:10 - The Break Down begins - MC Barcelona
\n10:33 - MC Barcelona top 8
\n20:57 - SCG Columbus Open
\n23:44 - Discussing the weekend's results
\n28:40 - The Dive Down begins - Jund!
\n34:31 - Jund's Creatures
\n58:09 - Jund's Removal
\n1:06:56 - Jund's Planeswalkers
\n1:15:31 - Playing against Jund
\n1:23:03 - What Jund will do vs. you
\n1:27:03 - Our experiences playing Jund
\n1:33:13 - The Wind Down - Getting comfortable with a deck
Links from this week's episode:
\nMythic Championship 4 Barcelona decklists: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/mythic-championship-iv-barcelona#paper
\nSCG Columbus Open decklists: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/scg-open-columbus#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The Break Down: The Modern MOCS - Hogaak's Back
\nThe Dive Down: MCQs are Hard - Our experiences at MF Denver
\nThe Wind Down: The Modern Power 9
Timestamps:
\n02:13 - Housekeeping
\n03:42 - The Break Down begins – The Modern MOCS
\n18:30 - The Dive Down begins – Getting to MF Denver
\n22:45 – What’s a MF like?
\n35:30 – The decks we played during the MF
\n38:29 – What’s a MCQ like?
\n45:33 – What we played at the MCQ – Shane
\n48:50 – Dave
\n1:01:25 – Shane pt2
\n1:05:08 – Stan
\n1:16:39 – Zak
\n1:26:19 – The Wind Down – Our Modern Power 9
Links from this week's episode:
\nThe Modern MOCS: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-mocs-2019-07-17-0
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
The Break Down: MF Krakow's MCQ and Tobi Henke's GP Dallas Data
\nThe Dive Down: Deck Selection for GP Denver's MCQ
\nThe Wind Down: The Timing of MH1's Release
Timestamps:
\nThe Break Down Begins – MF Krakow's MCQ: 2:36
\nTobi Henke’s GP Dallas data: 18:08
\nThe Dive Down Begins – Our deck selection process: 31:40
\nShane: Timing your selection and metagaming modern: 35:00
\nZak: Familiarity vs. Power and learning something new: 45:14
\nStan: Playing the unfamiliar and tournament goals: 56:51
\nDave: Finding your way in the Modern meta and data-driven decisions: 1:10:40
\nThe Wind Down – The timing of MH1’s release: 1:28:21
Links from this week's episode:
\nGP Krakow's MCQ T8: https://www.channelfireball.com/top-8-decklists-of-the-modern-mcq-at-magicfest-krakow/
\nTobi Henke's Dallas Data: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/full-modern-metagame-and-win-rates-from-dallas-and-what-it-means-moving-forward/
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The Break Down: Analyzing the Bridge from Below ban
\nThe Dive Down: Our picks to click for Core Set 20
\nThe Wind Down: What to do with all these cleared up sideboard slots
Timestamps:
\nStart of the Break Down - 2:21
\nAnalyzing WOTC’s Announcement - 8:10
\nELO Project - 24:18
Start of Dive Down - 27:20
\nThunkerin Awakener - 29:19
\nChandra, Awakened Inferno - 33:46
\nElvish Reclaimer - 40:39
\nFry - 46:25
\nChandra, Acolyte of Flame - 51:48
\nScheming Symmetry - 58:23
\nLeyline of Abundance - 1:06:28
\nChandra’s Regulator - 1:08:05
\nRisen Reef - 1:11:37
\nBrought Back - 1:15:37
Start of the Wind Down - 1:17:59
\nLeyline of the Void moving forward - 1:22:05
Links from the episode:
\nB&R announcement - https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/july-8-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2019-07-08
\nELO Project - http://www.mtgeloproject.net/
\nThunderkin Awakener - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466916
\nChandra, Awakened - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466881
\nElvish Reclaimer - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466923
\nFry - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466894
\nChandra, Acolyte - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466880
\nScheming Symmetry - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466867
\nLeyline of Abundance - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466933
\nChandra’s Regulator - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466885
\nRisen Reef - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466971
\nBrought Back - https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=466763
\nEdgar’s Elemental Deck - https://twitter.com/EdgarMTG/status/1148284547156647936
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The Break Down: SCG Pittsburgh Open & GP DFW
\nThe Dive Down: Hogaak Bridgevine Deck Dive
\nThe Wind Down: Randomness in Modern Magic
Timestamps:
\n2:07 Housekeeping
\n3:07 The Break Down begins: GP Dallas / Fort Worth
\n21:57 SCG Pittsburgh Team Open
\n36:59 The Dive Down: The Gaak Came Back
\n1:40:04 The Wind Down: Randomness in Modern Magic
Links from this week's episode:
\nGP DFW Top 2 decklists: http://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/22
\nSCG Pittsburgh Day 2 decklists: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Team_Open/2019-06-29_modern_Pittsburgh_PA_US/1/
\nHogaak Bridgevine: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-hogaak-bridgevine#paper
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
\ntwitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown
The Break Down: We analyze the emerging meta and the Hogaak menace in MTGO tournament results.
\nThe Dive Down: Do we want to Sleeve, Believe, or Heave 4 Modern decks built around new Modern Horizons cards?
\nThe Wind Down: Mistakes were made.
Timestamps:
\nBreak Down Starts - 3:39
\nModern MCQ - 4:24
\nModern Playoffs - 10:34
Dive Down Starts - 24:31
\nSultai Snow - 25:38
\nRB Goblins - 27:25
\nRB Skelemental - 34:10
\nMardu Octomancer - 52:18
\nBant Infect - 1:06:03
Wind Down Starts - 1:23:56
\nAria of Flame - 1:24:19
\nCrashing Footfalls - 1:29:46
\nUnearth - 1:31:08
\nHogaak - 1:32:35
Links from the episode:
\nJOIN OUR PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\nModern MCQ: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-mcq-2019-06-24#decklists
\nModern Playoffs: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-event-2019-06-23#decklists
Deck lists:
\nSultai Snow: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-snow-sultai#paper
\nRB Goblins: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-rakdos-goblins#online
\nRB Skelemental: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-red-black-aggro#paper
\nMardu Octomancer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2025289#paper
\nBant Infect: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2019572#online
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nemail us: thedivedown@gmail.com
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The Break Down: We talk about the latest MTGO 5-0 deck dumps and the last MTGO Modern Challenge.
\nThe Dive Down: Stan and Zak chat with CFB's Riley Knight.
Timestamps:
\n4:56 - Start of Break Down
\n5:32 - Sultai Snow
\n5:54 - Devoted Karnbo
\n9:27 - Jeskai Humans
\n14:08 - RB Goblins
\n17:22 - Mardu Octomancer
\n18:39 - Modern Challenge
\n31:20 - Start of Riley Knight interivew
\n32:15 - "What’s your favorite Modern deck to play?”
\n35:28 - “How often do you get to play?”
\n36:29 - “How has broadcasting Magic events changed your perception of the game?”
\n39:14 - “What are your most and least favorite decks to discuss while broadcasting?”
\n41:55 - “Do any banalities in the game get more interesting when you’ve seen them for the thousandth time?”
\n43:26 - “Does the nature of Modern make covering it different compared to Standard or Limited?”
\n45:36 - "Are you ever at a loss for things to talk about on coverage?”
\n47:42 - "Does coverage make you a better player?”
\n49:46: CFB Modern Madness
\n57:15 - "Why is playing snow basics strictly better?"
\n1:00:13 - "Do you like any Modern Horizons cards for Scapeshift?"
\n1:02:38 - "What effect will the new Force cycle have on Modern?"
\n1:05:51 - Hogaak discussion.
\n1:09:08 - "How often do you get concerned with new decks' power levels?"
\n1:11:48 - "What consequences do overpowered decks have on Modern?"
\n1:14:13 - "What other decks could Modern Horizons introduce or improve?"
\n1:17:02 - "Are Modern decks becoming more versatile?"
\n1:18:40 - "Do you set goals for yourself as a player?"
\n1:22:33 - "Should combo decks be built to be faster or more resilient?"
\n1:29:04 - "Could Hogaak get banned before MC Barcelona?"
\n1:32:48 - "Does WOTC print enough answers to new cards?"
\n1:40:33 - "How much vegemite do you have on your toast?"
Links from this weeks episode:
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\nRiley's Twitter: https://twitter.com/rileyquarytower
\nCFB Articles: https://www.channelfireball.com/author/riley-knight/
\nArena Boys: https://www.channelfireball.com/author/arena-boys/
\nHalf-Arsed History Podcast: https://halfarsedhistory.net
\nCFB Modern Madness: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/denis-stranjak/modern-madness-the-best-modern-deck-of-all-time/
Deck lists:
\nSultai Snow: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1999817#paper
\nDevoted Karnbo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2004203#paper
\nJeskai Humans: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2004168#paper
\nRB Goblins: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2004208#paper
\nMardu Octomancer: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2004185#paper
\nBattle of Wits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2013017#paper
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The Break Down: We talk about the London Mulligan and the first Modern Horizons MTGO Modern Challenge
\nThe Dive Down: Modern Horizons Listener Questions!
Timestamps:
\n03:08 - London Mulligan
\n09:18 - 6/8/19 Modern Challenge
\n12:09 - Modern Horizons cards show up
\n22:30 - Hogaak Bridgevine discussion
\n33:30 - The Dive Down begins
\n36:30 - Did Modern Horizons deliver?
\n47:01 - How will the meta shake out after MH1?
\n52:47 - Which tribe will see the most success?
\n56:48 - What would we play at the next large event?
\n1:04:52 - Which archetypes got the right push to be competitve?
\n1:08:40 - What's the most noticeable reprint that wasn't in MH1?
\n1:13:16 - Why so few reprints vs new cards?
\n1:15:06 - Fallen Shinobi?!
\n1:17:11 - Are graveyard engines accidental or on purpose?
\n1:20:45 - What new cycle of cards would you like to see in the next MH?
Links from this weeks episode:
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\nHogaak Bridgevine: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1989519#paper
\nEsper Death's Shadow: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1989525#paper
\nUR Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1989528#paper
\nUR Delver: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1989534#paper
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The Dive Down: The gang reviews the OTHER half of Modern Horizons using the beloved sleeve / believe / heave grading system.
\n\nW: 4:04
\nU: 15:40
\nB: 41:42
\nR: 1:04:15
\nG: 1:17:23
\nMulticolor: 1:23:37
\nArtifacts: 1:34:27
\nLands: 1:37:00
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\nModern Horizons full set: https://scryfall.com/sets/mh1
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The Dive Down: The gang reviews half of Modern Horizons using the beloved sleeve, believe, heave grading system.
\n\nLinks from this weeks episode:
\nJOIN OUR PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/thedivedown
\nFrank Karsten on Collected Conjuring: https://twitter.com/karsten_frank/status/1131215587470970880
\nModern Horizons full set: https://scryfall.com/sets/mh1
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The Break Down: 4 early preview cards from Modern Horizons.
\nThe Dive Down: The UW Control Deck Dive! What makes control decks tick, and why is UW seemingly better than ever?
\nThe Wind Down: A Patreon question about the Golden Age of Modern.
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\nThe UW Control list we ran: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1909178#online
\n"The Deck" article on The Dojo: http://www.classicdojo.org/history/thedeck2.html
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The Break Down: We look at some spicy new decks making their appearance in the Modern Challenge and the Modern MOCS Monthly.
\nThe Dive Down: Do we want to Sleeve, Believe, or Heave 4 Modern decks built around new War of the Spark cards?
\nThe Wind Down: When and how to buy into Modern?
Links from this week’s episode:
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Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-05-13
\nMOCS Monthly: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-mocs-2019-05-13
10-Rack: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1895733#online
\nNarset Prison: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-ub-86040#paper
\nRainbow Niv-Mizzet: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-rainbow-niv-mizzet#paper
\nWish Tron: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1906135#paper
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The Break Down: 3 new decks courtesy of War Of The Spark
\nThe Dive Down: Deck Dives are back! We talk Humans - how it's constructed, some tips and tricks, and how you might try to beat this Tier 1 staple.
\nThe Wind Down: Why isn't UW Control more popular?
Links from this weeks episode:
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\nNeoform Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1885374#paper
\nWish Tron: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1879166#paper
\nNarset Pitch Blue: https://twitter.com/Conley81/status/1124172639180689408
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The Break Down & The Dive Down: Mythic Championship London.
\nThe Wind Down: We take some listener questions.
Links from the episode:
\nThe most played cards at MC London: https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/2019MC2/most-played-modern-cards-mythic-championship-ii-2019-04-27
\nThe top 8 from MC London:
\nhttps://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/mythic-championship-london-top-eight-decklists
\nMark Jacobson's Red Eldrazi Deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1847510#paper
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The Break Down: Going over the final GP before Mythic Championship London: GP Yokohama.
\nThe Dive Down: Our picks to click from War of the Spark.
\nThe Wind Down: A philosophical tournament report from Stanislav.
Links from the episode:
\nThe top 32 decks of GP Yokohama: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/grand-prix-yokohama-2019#paper
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The Break Down: We talk about the latest Modern GP, Sao Paulo!
\nThe Dive Down: The London Mulligan: how does it impact modern? What we can learn from the latest Magic Online tournaments, and our own experiences.
\nThe Wind Down: Our predictions for MC London.
Links from this weeks episode:
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\nThe Day 2 Sao Paulo Metagame: https://twitter.com/ChannelFireball/status/1117406325254828032
\nDay 2 winrates: https://twitter.com/ChannelFireball/status/1117559245803855879
\nThe Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-04-14
\nThe Modern MOCS: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-mocs-2019-04-14
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The Break Down: We talk the SCG Cleveland Modern Open and the latest MTGO Modern Challenge.
\nThe Dive Down: 4 cards (and a little bonus!) that aren't quite ready for prime time. Why they aren't there and what we're looking for to make them playable.
\nThe Wind Down: A special announcement many of you have been waiting for!
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\nThe SCG Cleveland decks: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Open/2019-04-06_modern_Cleveland_OH_US/1/
\nThe 4/7/19 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-04-07
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The Break Down: Dissecting GP Calgary, the Modern MOCS, and Tobi Henke's full meta packet of GP Bilbao.
\nThe Dive Down: How best to use, abuse, and understand Chalice of the Void.
\nThe Wind Down: Our first picks to click from War of the Spark.
Links from this weeks episode:
\nTobi Henke's GP Bilbao Breakdown: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/full-meta-packet-the-99-of-grand-prix-bilbao/
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The Break Down: Analyzing the results from SCG Cincinnati's Team Open and Modern Classic.
\nThe Dive Down: We dive down into the big green menace: TRON. How it works, what it's trying to do, and how you can try to stop it.
\nThe Wind Down: The crew answers a listener question about the Modern decks we miss most.
Links from this weeks episode:
\nBrandon Czognowski's Restore Balance deck: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/128025
\nPhilip Silberman's Cruel Control deck: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/128007
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The Break Down: Analyzing the results from GPs Tampa and Bilbao, and SCG Philadelphia.
\nThe Dive Down: We interview Ross Merriam about Izzet Phoenix, tournament preparation, Modern Horizons reprints, and more.
\nThe Wind Down: The crew talks about new decks we're looking at.
Links from this weeks episode:
\nSubscribe to Ross on Twitter: https://twitter.com/rosshunneds
\nSee past episodes of Versus Live at https://www.youtube.com/user/starcitygamesvideo/videos
\nWatch Versus Live when it airs and more SCG events at https://www.twitch.tv/scgtour
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The Break Down: Digesting all the top 8 results from the SCG Regionals
\nThe Dive Down: Gal Schlesinger joins us for an interview to talk all things Hardened Scales
\nThe Wind Down: Another B&R announcement with no changes
Links from this weeks episode:
\nSubscribe to Gal on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/yamakiller/
\nOur SCG Regionals breakdown spreadsheet: https://tinyurl.com/y2az8l3j
\nHow to Play Hardened Scales by Matt Nass: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/how-to-play-hardened-scales/
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The Break Down: The Grand Prix Los Angeles metagame, fun and winning decks, and the power of Faithless Looting.
\nThe Dive Down: How to avoid and overcome 3 problems related to Surgical Extraction.
\nThe Wind Down: How Stan is prepping for this weekend's SCG Regionals.
Links from this weeks episode:
\nGP LA Top 32: https://www.channelfireball.com/grand-prix-los-angeles-top-32-deck-lists/
\nGP LA Top 8: https://www.channelfireball.com/grand-prix-los-angeles-top-8-decklists/
\nCraig Wescoe's Mono-White Devotion Deck Tech: https://twitter.com/ChannelFireball/status/1101960638123765760
\nThe 3/2/19 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-03-03#decklists
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First things first, we talk about the announcement of Modern Horizons!
\nThe Break Down - Feb 24 Modern Challenge and MagicFest Cleveland's Modern MCQ, as well as some spicy picks from this weeks Modern Leagues
\nThe Dive Down - An in-depth look at Dredge: how it works, how it wants to win, and how to try to beat it
\nThe Wind Down - We talk the newly proposed mulligan rule
Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
\n\nFind Emma Partlow's work here: https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/author/epartlow/
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We break down the GP Strasbourg and Magic Online Modern Mythic Champ Qualifiers, dive down into four different decks built around Primeval Titan, then wind things down with a conversation on what happens if your favorite deck gets banned.
\n\nIronworksless Ironworks: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-ironworksless-ironworks#paper
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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We go over GP Toronto and the Nerd Rage Gaming 5k in Milwaukee, then rate 5 of the latest winning decks in Modern, and finally answer the burning question: what is a "casual spike?"
\n\nDecklists from this episode:
\nShaman Tribal: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1643170#paper
\nRG Beats: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1643157#paper
\nVannifar Pod: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1643149#paper
\nSultai Teachings: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1647502#paper
\nLiving Dominance: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1643173#paper
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We talk about the Modern portion of the Team Constructed event at SCG Baltimore, then dive down into the highs and lows of tweaking decks for the metagame, and bring it home with a listener question.
\n\nJeffrey Carr's write-up from his awesome run with Mono-Red Phoenix: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VtTGrHGm-5vvTda_E9tKny-eHLXgmVZZq_T6VCDTNt0/
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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We go over the latest Modern Challenge and the new Pod, talk about Stanislav's awesome finish at the SCG Classic, then dive down into a discussion of the latest experiments with Burn.
\n\nPrime Speaker Vannifar Pod: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/prime-speaker-vannifar-with-kiki-combo-in-modern/
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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We discuss the banning of KCI and some MTGO tournament results, dive down into an analysis of Death's Shadow decks, and chat about Gavin Varhey's interview with The Professor.
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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We discuss the results of SCG Worcester, analyze ways to beat Izzet Phoenix, and break down our picks for the top modern cards from Ravnica Allegiance.
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name?
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The crew break down the SCG Non-Unified Team Modern and GP Oakland results, then talk about KCI, what makes a deck bannable, and the impact of some potential upcoming bans in modern.
\n\nThe KCI Combo Explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8olqGdtZuvg
\n\nOur opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? Thanks to our friends for the use of their music!
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The crew talks about the MTGO Modern "Finals" (whatever that means) results, then dives down into the topic of Planeswalkers in Modern.
\n\nThe Modern Finals results can be found here: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-finals-2018-12-31
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In this episode, the crew talks about the most impactful cards of 2018, then breaks down the 2018 metagame across all the Modern GPs.
\n\nThe reddit article that looks at the 2018 Modern GPs can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/a64wnc/looking_back_at_2018_gp_top_8s_plus_br_speculation/
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Welcome to the first episode of The Dive Down, a modern focused podcast for the casual spike!
\n\nIn this episode we talk about Izzet Phoenix, and the costs and benefits of milling yourself.
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