The Dive Down

A Magic: The Gathering podcast for the casual spike, focused on Modern, Pioneer, Explorer, and more!

About the show

The Dive Down is a Magic: The Gathering podcast focused on the latest decks, trends, and strategies for the casual spikes in Modern, Pioneer, Explorer, and more!

Each week your hosts Dave, Shane, and Stanislav discuss the latest innovations, competitive events, and level-up topics for paper and online players.

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Episodes and Blog Entries

  • Episode 179: 10 Takes on Modern, Pioneer, & Magic

    Episode  |  June 23rd, 2022  |  1 hr 39 mins

    What can Izzet decks in Pioneer play instead of Expressive Iteration? How crazy was the MOCS meta from the weekend? Is Glimpse of Tomorrow a good card in Modern? This week's show answers these questions and more in a format-spanning Dive Down of takes hot and cold.
    But first, off the top we deliver a little announcement about the future of The Dive Down (nothing big, we swear — but you should listen).
    Shane doesn't even need Nykthos. Stan can quit cascading any time he wants to. Dave actually seems to get mad about something.

  • Episode 178: NRG Modern & Pio: Is 4c 2 Good 4 U?

    Episode  |  June 16th, 2022  |  1 hr 33 mins

    It's a hot one on The Dive Down this week. We take a deep look at NRG's recent set of Modern and Pioneer Trials in Lansing, Michigan and tackle the big questions about our favorite formats. Is 4c too good for Modern? What can even be done if it is too good? What's happened to Pioneer without Winota and Expressive Iteration? How many words can the three of us get beeped out in one episode? And more! Stan fights through jet lag and still brings the insights. Shane loves talking about bad decks that performed badly. And, finally, Dave gets his comeuppance.

  • Episode 177: Ban Reacts, a Dream Hacked, & Some Mid Rakdos

    Episode  |  June 9th, 2022  |  2 hrs 16 mins

    Shane and Dave are totally blindsided by this week's Pioneer bans — especially since they happened after we recorded this ep. But don't worry, we use the power of technology to travel into the past and add a segment of hot reactions and speculation on what's next for Pio. After that, we continue with our regularly scheduled episode breaking down the Modern $10k at DreamHack Dallas and diving into Pioneer's most mid deck — Rakdos Mid!

  • Episode 176: The People's Meta(s): Modern and Pioneer

    Episode  |  June 2nd, 2022  |  1 hr 54 mins

    This week the three friends dive into an examination of not one but two metas — Modern and Pioneer — using some recent 5-0 league decks. We collect em, dissect em, and... tierect (???)... em. You know what we mean... we're placing them into groups and discussing what decks we think are going up, down, and sideways.

  • Episode 175: Sleeve/Believe/Heave: Streets of New Capenna Edition

    Episode  |  May 26th, 2022  |  1 hr 52 mins

    The three friends are taking it back to the streets on more time. This week we evaluate three different decks that were improved or created by the addition of SNC to our formats. Shane pods his way through a Naya deck full of combos in Modern. Stan shreds his way through infinite turns in Modern. Dave explains so he's falling short of virtuosity in Explorer. It's a real journey through a few more cards making an impact. Before that, though, we break down the top 8 of NRG Minneapolis where three other friends (of the pod) take the whole thing down.

  • Episode 174: Explorer’s First Ban & More Pioneer Testing

    Episode  |  May 19th, 2022  |  1 hr 46 mins

    Shane and Stan take the three friends through Winota's ban in Explorer, four different challenges across Modern and Pioneer, and finally some of their testing results with Winota and Izzet Phoenix in Pioneer.
    The Break Down, I: Winota's Gone in Explorer!
    The Break Down, II: Kicking Bass in a Bunch of Challenges
    The Dive Down: Winota's Here in Pioneer! So is Phoenix!

  • Episode 173: Do You Even Shred, Tho?

    Episode  |  May 12th, 2022  |  1 hr 43 mins

    The boys flap their little wings and scream caw caw as they dig their beaks into the hottest bird lawyer in Magic this week. Whether it's ripping up contracts, filtering hands, shouting 'objection!' or pumping flyers, Ledger Shredder does it all. But does it have what it take to be a multiformat staple? Yes, apparently yes.
    The Break Down: Living End Won't Die
    The Dive Down: New Bird Learns to Fly
    The Dive Down, cont: Filling Graveyards Can Be Sly

  • Episode 172: Exploring the Streets of New Capenna

    Episode  |  May 5th, 2022  |  1 hr 53 mins

    Our three friends begin their visit to the Streets of New Capenna with some Explorer, Pioneer, and Modern decks. We take a look at Ob Nixilis, The Adversary and Stan's uncharacteristic BW Blink brew with Getaway Car and Extraction Specialist.

  • Episode 171: 6 Ways You Can Get Better at Magic

    Episode  |  April 28th, 2022  |  1 hr 52 mins

    In a special patron-requested episode, our three friends provide a roadmap to improvement for key Magic skills and other useful habits. We also kick off the show with run downs and reactions to the latest Magic Arena announcements for Explorer and Pioneer.

  • Episode 170: Who Runs the Streets of New Capenna?

    Episode  |  April 21st, 2022  |  1 hr 48 mins

    The full set of New Capenna has been revealed, so on this week's show we complete our run through of all the cards in the set. But first, we spend some time looking through recent Pioneer results with a focus on Izzet Control.

  • Episode 169: The Families of New Capenna and Old Fort Worth

    Episode  |  April 14th, 2022  |  1 hr 48 mins

    The Dive Down visits sunny Texas for SCGCON Dallas! We chat about our very first free preview card from Streets of New Capenna, other highlights from the set so far, and our experiences playing paper Magic all weekend.

  • Episode 168: A Pre-Travel, Post-Lurrus Meta Deep Dive

    Episode  |  April 7th, 2022  |  1 hr 41 mins

    The gang is reunited this week for an episode full of new cards, pivot tables, and tournament surprises. We start off with our initial reactions to the new charms spoiled from Streets of New Capenna, and imagine the impact of the complete triome cycle on our favorite formats. Then we go over the results of March's Modern metagame, the Manatraders Modern tournament, and the latest NRG results to analyze the growing and shrinking popularity of various decks in a post-Lurrus metagame. Finally, we wrap up with a Wind Down of our plans for SCG Con Dallas. Turns out... it's technically in Fort Worth!
    The Break Down: Greetings from New Capenna
    The Dive Down: Greetings from Fort Wayne
    The Wind Down: Greetings from Dallas/Fort Worth

  • Episode 167: The Pro Tour Returns! ft. Dom Harvey

    Episode  |  March 31st, 2022  |  1 hr 53 mins

    This week Dave got lost in a cave while vacationing, so Dom Harvey joins the show to react and contextualize Wizard's official announcement that the Pro Tour is back! We break down the new competitive organized play systems, how it fits into the casual spike lifestyle, and how it supports Magic's highest level players. We warm up with a break down of some wild weekend top 8s.
    The Dive Down: Enter the Pyramid
    The Dive Down, cont: The Road to Regionals
    The Dive Down, cont: The Life of a World Champion

  • Bonus 19: Probably Better Known As ft. Saffron Olive

    Episode  |  March 28th, 2022  |  1 hr 6 mins

    Dave and Stan meet Saffron Olive from MTG Goldfish, and talk about Seth's sleep schedule, his MTG origins, and how the deck names in MTG Goldfish get fixed.

  • Episode 166: All Shadow, No Doubt (ft. Michael Rapp)

    Episode  |  March 24th, 2022  |  1 hr 46 mins

    This week, Shane's on vacation and Stan's late so Dave gets to do whatever he wants. And what he's decided is to check in with friend of the show and certified shadow scientist Michael Rapp about where everyone's avatar is headed these days. That's right, it's time for a deep dive on (mostly) Grixis Death's Shadow (along with a few other things). But first, we chat about Michael's recent trip to Indy and break down the Modern meta there.

  • Episode 165: The People's Meta: Life After Lurrus

    Episode  |  March 18th, 2022  |  2 hrs 1 min

    We are back with the second installment of The People's Meta! With Lurrus gone, and the first big paper tournament happening in the Hunter Burton Memorial Open, there's no time like the present to take a look at what's happening in Modern. We categorize and talk about every deck in a recent 5-0 League dump and break down what's changing in the wide open world of Magic Online. We then take some time to look at the paper metagame of the HBMO, examine what's changing, and take a gander at what did well down in Texas.
    The Break Down: Dave Breaks Down
    The Break Down, pt.2: Dave Dissects a Dump
    The Break Down, pt.3: The 2022 HBMO